User Profile Disks require SMB 3.0?

Hi all,
I have some netapp space available for User profile disks, the netapp does not support SMB 3.0 and when I try and apply the setting i get an RPC error:
0x800706BA
Similar to this thread here which suggested SMB3 was required.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/5a4e6fb8-ad10-4ac1-b3ac-55d414b3fb17/got-rpc-server-is-unavailable-error-when-configuring-user-profile-disk-to-use-a-samba-share?forum=winserverTS
So would like clarification, is SMB 3.0 a requirement?
I have managed to setup a file share on a windows 2012r2 box on storage which does not support SMB3.0 and it works... I don't know if windows is doing something funky in the back end to make it work though.
Thanks

Hi,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Yes, as per my research and also from below thread; I can say that “we need SMB 3 preferably” for user profile disks. Please check
this thread suggested by “Don Geddes (dgeddes [MSFT])”.
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki

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Hi ,
This issue may occur if the user profile was manually deleted by using the command prompt or by using Windows Explorer and if the “Do not logon users with temporary profiles” Group Policy setting is configured.
A profile that is manually deleted does not remove the security identifier (SID) from the profile list in the registry.
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To resolve this problem open yourself, follow these steps:
Right click Computer > Properties > Advanced system settings > Advanced tab > Under User Profiles, click Settings > In the User Profiles dialog box, select the profile that you want to delete > click Delete > Apply/OK.
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However, I have noticed a potential flaw unless someone can shed some light on this. With UPD being relatively new there is limited documentation on this.
If I backup my UPD directory (stored on a central server), and / or my Terminal Servers and I use a backup product which allows granular file-level restore. Initial testing shows that this won't work as you would want it to e.g. I can restore the VHDX
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Hi,
Thank you for your posting in Windows Server Forum.
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Hi,
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Hi,
Thanks for your post in Windows Server Forum.
Kindly follow the below mention article and check the necessary steps for creating UPD, try to create new UPD.
1. Working with User Profile Disks on Session-Based Desktop Deployments
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Hi,
Apologies is this is the wrong forum, cannot find a VDI specific one...
I am looking at deploying a Server 2012 VDI solution for a college. The VM's would be pooled and based on a single image which contains all the required software for students. I want zero persistence, in a similar way which can be achieved in
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Hi,
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For more details, please refer to the following:
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Windows Server 2012 R2 RDS + User profile Disks + App-V = Explorer.exe crashing all of the time

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Hi All,
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I don't even think it matters which application gets published. The point seems to be that this 'Volumes' key gets rewritten.
I am highly suspicious that our issues are caused by User Profile disks in our RDS environment, as when I disable them on our staging collection all of these issues seem to disappear.
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in that at least one application that fails on the other setting starts to work.
3. We have already set that NTFS 8 dot 3 reg fix some time ago.
SOS!
We have gone live this week (not my call) and this is having disasterous consequences. :(
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Hi,
Thanks for your response.
I did try this a while ago without success, although it may be worth revisiting with SP2 applied.
I have left this client now.
I left them a Powershell script that deletes HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\AppV\MAV\Configuration\Volumes
and triggers an Unpublish/Publish of an application we have deployed to all of the servers.
This seems to work, but a fix would be better than a workaround.
Not really my problem now though - I did my best.
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John

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Server 2012 R2 Corrupt User Profile Disks after RDSH reboot

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We have a serious problem when using User Profile Disks, we have a pretty simple setup with a single RDGW & RDCB and the 2x RDSH with a folder share for redirected folders and another for User Profile Disks. Now if any server suffers a re-boot when users
are connected to it then their profiles gets corrupted and are issued with a temporary profile (we have a GPO to deny use of temp profiles) and so cannot log on.
I have searched the forums and found the following hotfix
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2896328 but this ONLY applies to Windows Server 2012.
Is there any published hotfix for Server 2012 R2, else we will need to look at another way of managing profiles ?
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Donal

Hi Donal,
Sorry to say but there is no other Hotfix related to this issue for Server 2012 R2. But you can try the option of deleting the SID from registry. You can find the below path and then search for proper associated SID with user name and then delete it.
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version\ProfileList
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RDS 2012: The User Profile Service Failed The Sign-In: User Profile Cannot Be Loaded
Please Note: Since the web site is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this information.
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Hi,
I`m having a problem with my setup for quite some time now with Windows Search and indexing the outlook OST files.
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Server 2012 R2 RDS, User Profile Disks are created but local profiles are created as well. The UPDs aren't mounting correctly.

2012 R2 RDS Deployment with RDCB HA and UPDs enabled. Everything was working fine with no issues until users started getting temporary profiles. Around the same time UPDs were being created but at the same time a user profile was created in C:\Users.
I actually rebuilt the entire RDS configuration except the SQL Server. It took about 5 hours and was not that big a deal but.... we still have the same issue!
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Hi,
In most cases, the issue is caused by locked UPD. And the workaround is to log off the user. Please check if it is the case.
For example:
RDS user profile disks - getting error temporary profile are being used as UPD are not accessible
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/0d4b66fc-b53f-435e-b036-142b6ed15d0b/rds-user-profile-disks-getting-error-temporary-profile-are-being-used-as-upd-are-not-accesible?forum=winserverTS
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I was looking at both the technet article for setting up UPD as well as this walk-through:
http://thewolfblog.com/2014/02/24/user-profile-disks-for-rds-2012-2012-r2/
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Add a DFS file share path in User Profile disk in RDS 2012.

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It seems we cannot use a DFS file share path here.
I found a similar thread:
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In reply it mentioned "the share needs to be provided from a 2012 server directly as it needs to manage the permissions and share permissions directly".
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Hello
I am testing a new RDS 2012 R2 setup using UPD's but have stubled into a problem.
When I logon to RDS as a user and setup the profile so it uses the right Web Client and setup Outlook etc, then log out.
I then log back in with the same user and his settings have not been saved.
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Hi,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
From your description it seems there is single User profile Disk issue. There is one related Hotfix for this issue, please try to install and check whether your issue been resolved.
FIX: You are logged on with a temporary profile to a remote desktop session after an unexpected restart of Windows Server 2012
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2896328
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki
TechNet Community Support
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Hi, that hotfix was already applied. Troubleshooting the issue further, it seemed that the user's UPD was locked or corrupted. After I had all users logoff the Terminal Servers, I rebooted the Server that was hosting the UPDs. After the reboot, the user's
profile loaded correctly on all Terminal Servers.

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