Value flow to COPA

Hi All,
We map condition types in SD to value fields in COPA to see revenues and costs in COPA.
But how do we send the plan values to COPA. What are the configuration settings. Are plan values also updated under version 0.
Regards,
Reddy

Hi Reddy,
KEPM is used to send plan values to CO-PA. As there will be no flows in case of planning you need to upload your planning data in KEPM.
Regards,
Abhisek

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VALUE FLOW IN COPA

Hi Guys
Can you guys please explain me how does the values flows in COPA. If you have any documents on this, please do forward it to my email.
Your prompt response to this would be highly appreciated..
Kundan Bhattarai

Hi Chirag
my email address is [email protected]
Thanking You
Kundan

Cost Elements Values flow to COPA

Dear Experts,
We are using Costing based Operating Concern. I am clear that how to get values from SD to COPA Value Fields, I.e. assignment of Value Fields with condition types. But my confusion is how to get the values of cost element and cost element groups to COPA Value Fields.
This is not my confusion its my client requirment.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle

Hi Balaji
Which cost elements are you talking about? You can directly make FI postings to COPA in F-02 by clicking on "Prf Seg"
Note that a cost element will either be posted to COPA or Cost Center or Internal order or WBS element... Real posting happens only to one of these...
Out of these, some Cost Centers merge into COGM/COGS i.e. Std cost and this is reflected as COGS.... The variance is posted as variance in COPA
Some cost centers like Marketing which do not form part of COGM/COGS, can be allocated from CO to COPA using KEU5...
This is how the values flow to COPA
Regards
Ajay M

COPA - SD Condition Type value flow into COPA - Sign

Dear Experts,
We have a scenario where an SD condition type has been created which permits both positive & negative. However, the value goes into COPA only as Positive.
In KE4i we enabled the check box Transfer +/-, however the values doesn't flow correctly in COPA.
There is no issue with FI.
Example:
Condition Type
ZREB Discount - 3000
ZHKP Rebate on Disc - (1000)
Net is 2000, however in COPA it is updated as 4000. Both the above condition types are mapped to same GL and Value field.
Any inputs will really help.
regards
Diwakar

Dear Sarada,
I read the notes but still have a question -
In my case the sales order is type ZXX3 (return w/o reference). The customer makes order of the said type via VA01, then creates outbound delivery via VL01N, then releases billing block via VA02 and finally creates billing document via VF01.
In VA01 there are two condition types ZXX7(discount) - Rs 200 & ZXX8(discount margin) - Rs. 100 appearing with a negative sign in condition value. When the customer makes the billing document via VF01he manually enters one more condition type ZXX9 (extra discount / surcharge) + Rs. 50 ..for this scenario its sort of discount received back / surcharge). Hence in the billing document the above two conditions ZXX7 & ZXX8 are deducted and ZXX9 is added.(-200-100+50 = -250)
Presently in KE24 for this billing document the discounts appear as - xxx (discount) -xxx (discount margin & -xxx (surcharge)... The issue here is surcharge though positive is getting added up and only one consolidated figure is coming (-350)
I checked the transfer +/- checkbox in KE4I for ZXX7 & ZXX8 and then rechecked. The netting is being done but the negative sign does not appear now which is wierd. (250)
Can you let me know whether the values appearing in COPA after changing the setting are correct or not. I use ECC6
Thanks

Value flows to COPA through Billing

Hi!
we have defined Operating concern as Costing based.
We have assigned value fields to SD conditon types which are related to different revenues.
By mistake one of the revenue GL is not defined as revenue element, so values are not flowed to COPA.
Now , how to rectify values in COPA.
whether we need to post manually the value to copa to that specific value field by arriving amount by other method?
or can we repost Billing document to rectify the values in COPA? what is the best method to follow?
we have another problem of cost of goods sold. we are treating VPRS condition type in Billing as Cost of goods sold.
But my doubt is even though there will not be any cost element with respective to VPRS condition type, the value will flow to COPA or not?
we have not defined cost of goods sold as cost element and don't want to flow the value from this GL account which is coming from PGI to COPA.
How can we get VPRS cost to COPA ?
regs,
ramesh

ajay,
KE4SFI, is only to transfer FI documents ( directly posted in FI) to COPA, so, this is not required for us.
Of course I tried by entering billing accounting document numbers, but not posting.
secondly, our scenario is now we have to adjust copa values for already posted Billing documents. For example we have two types of revenues _ direct revenue and pallet revenue. direct revenue already flowed to COPA, where as pallet revenue is not flowed because, we have forgotten to create that GL account as cost/revenue element.
Now If I use KE21N, I am not able to give reference Billing document number, there by I can get report for each billng document wise.
Secondly if i use KE4S, if i ticked Update control with "check for existing records", system is not posting any thing ( In this I want to transfer only pallet price to COPA not any other values).
If I ticked update control with "Posting with out check", system is generating COPA document i.e it is posting all the values again. SO, for the same billing document we will have to copa document which will duplicate the values which are already posted, which is not correct.
I think now I have explained my situaiton.
can you suggest to pass only pallet price to copa with reference to billing document?
regs,
ramesh

Inter-company billing values flow to COPA

Dear All,
We are in inter-company sales scenario
Issue -
Sales persons have created two billing document with type F2 and IV
Condition type PR00 and PI01 ( inter-comapny price ) assigned to COPA value field VVS04.
Billing document F2 ( orderning plant ) - From sales order to accounting the net sales value has been updated as 0.17
But COPA document is updated as 1.17 ( Net value 0.17+ cost 1 )
But we require the value as 0.17
In the above scenario FI & COPA are not getting reconcile
Please throw some light on this
Regards
Madhu

Hi
It seems you have mapped both revenue and COGS to same value field..
In COPA, all values are updated as absolute values i.e. without +/- sign except for billing reversals and credit memos...
You should map both to separate value fields and show revenue- cost in reports
Ajay M

Value flow to COPA.(KE21N)

Dear All,
When we use KE21N to manually post COPA documents how does system works. As per my knowledge system creates a segment number while posting a COPA document and for this system 1st check that any other same segment number exist in tables or not.
If we are posting actual data then will it update in CE1XXXX or CE3xxxx. I`m considering costing based COPA.
Kindly share your experience on the same.....
Regards
Nitisha

Dear Waman ,
Thanks for your reply.
"Anyways I do not see how the internal architecture of COPA matters from a user viewpoint"
Nowhere I have mentioned that I`m thinking from a user viewpoint, i was interested to know how does internal architecture of COPA works for my knowledge as I want to be assured on what I`m working or delivering it as a solution to client.
One can never assume what`s going on in client`s mind after all client is client.
Any ways thanks for your input.
Regards
Nitisha

MM Condition Types values flow COPA

Dear Gurus,
My client requirement is MM Condition Types Values Should flow to COPA like SD to COPA. I had seen a screen that KE4IM is there we can map our COPA Value Field and MM Condition Types. But I am not sure that values flow to COPA, Because No document will be generated in FI or other while doing PO.
Pl suggest me how can I fullfill this requirement.
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle.

Hi,
If you read config doco for KE4IM you will find a statement:
"It is also possible to transfer conditions from MM to update billing data in pooled payment in the IS Retail system. These are transferred according to the same rules as SD conditions."
So KE4IM is only used in IS Retail. Are you IS Retail?
If not you probably want to bring conditions from purchase orders to CO-PA.
I agree with Ajay except for point 1.
You can actualy trigger CO-PA posting during goods receipt (and invoice receipt) for PO.
In order to achive it you need to activate "Purchase Accounting" in MM.
SPRO -> Marterials Management -> Valuation and Account Assignment -> Account Determination -> Account Determination without Wizard -> Purchase Account Management
Please read doco for Purchasing Account. In a nutshell when you activate it system will post addtional line item for GR and IR:
Purchasing account and Purchasing Offseting account for value of purchased nmaterial and also for delivery costs.
In table T030: Purchase account(EIN), purchase offsetting account (EKG), freight purchase account (FRE).
Define EIN and FRE as cost elements and map to profitability segment in OKB9. Leave EKG as P&L account (no cost element).
Then map cost elements to value fields in COPA.
Done.
Cheers,
Szymon

Cost of sales flow in COPA and its detailed breakdown cost component f

Hi ,
we have a requirement that we need details about what makes cost of sales numbers in COPA.
i know the our VPRS value is flowing into COPA as COGS but now we want that we should have ite detailed breakdown as per cost components.
can you please tell me detailed configuration steps to make this happen so that we can create a new COPA ke30 report which gives us the breakdown of the COGS numbers.
one more requirement is that for purchase parts our client is maintaing price PB00 condition and some other conditions like brokerage, freight etc in the info record for those materials and they want that all these conditions value should add up to show the COGS value for these purchase parts in the COPA report.. how do we do that?
please reply soon...
Thanks in advance,
Gurjit

Hi Balaji
Which cost elements are you talking about? You can directly make FI postings to COPA in F-02 by clicking on "Prf Seg"
Note that a cost element will either be posted to COPA or Cost Center or Internal order or WBS element... Real posting happens only to one of these...
Out of these, some Cost Centers merge into COGM/COGS i.e. Std cost and this is reflected as COGS.... The variance is posted as variance in COPA
Some cost centers like Marketing which do not form part of COGM/COGS, can be allocated from CO to COPA using KEU5...
This is how the values flow to COPA
Regards
Ajay M

Revenue values are not flowing into COPA

Dear Experts,
We are processing the MTS normal scenario. Here the revenue values are not flowing into COPA when FG sale. But when we process the Raw material Sale values are flowing to COPA smoothly. Here the SD condition Type, Revenue Account and COPA value Field same for RM and FG.
May I know the exact reasonu2026.
Please suggest me in right wayu2026.
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle.

Hi Balaji bhau
I guess the issue might be with your Item Category in SD.. Is it set relevant for billing??
See if the Billing Type has been entered in KE4W and the VF reset for it
Check in VFX3 if the invoice is lying there for any error.... Try to release the Billing to accounting and you may get the error message
br, Ajay M

Values are not flow to COPA

Can you please clear some point.-
1.According to my understanding, From SD data will flow through condition type,which is assign with value field and condition types are assign with Pricing Procedure.
In my problem, Condition type-YREC(Packing tax) is in Pricing Procedure and YREC assign with value field VV031 but amount is not flow to COPA.
2.Please tell me the FI flow to COPA
Please help me.

<b>Pl try KE4ST billing transfer simulation</b>
Simulate Billing Document Transfer
In the activity "Simulating the Transfer of Documents from Billing", you have the option of simulating the transfer of billing document data into Profitability Analysis.
Simulation occurs on the basis of the Customizing settings valid at the time it is carried out. You can view the characteristics and value fields of the line item to be written to COPA.
The function "Valuation analysis" allows you to perform an analysis of the valuation strategy valid for valuating billing document data.
You can also restart the simulation of document transfers for billing documents that have already been transferred. This option should simplify in particular the analysis of error situations that have arisen.
Performing this simulation causes no data to be posted to COPA or to other modules.
<b>Check tcode KEAT also</b>
Check Value Flow in Billing Document Transfer
In this activity, you can compare your actual data in Profitability Analysis with the data posted in Financial Accounting (FI). This makes it possible to analyze the flow of values from SD billing documents to CO-PA, find and analyze any differences between the different applications.
Billing data is stored by condition types in SD, accounts in FI, and value fields in costing-based CO-PA. The reconciliation report yields a list of the balances for value fields, condition types, and profit and loss accounts.

Values not flowing to COPA - PO with Acctt Asgnmt Cat-Ind. Cust. w/o KD-CO

Dear Friends,
The users have created a PO with Acctt Asgnmt Cat as "Ind. Cust. w/o KD-CO" while mentioning the Sales Order and GL Account No. in the PO. The GL Account No. defined is that of Inventory Account (Balance Sheet). The issue is that at the time of Invoice Verification, the price was different from the PO value and the difference in the price got debited to the COGS Account, However, even though there was a reference to the PO, while posting the difference to COGS, the system did not create the Profitability Segment and thus the value did not flow to the COPA. But the basic costs debited to COGS at the time of GR has flown to COPA.
Could any one help in understanding this, is this the normal behavior, and was it correct to mention the Inventory GL in PO instead of COGS A/c.
Regards

Hi
1. I asked you which CO object it is posting to upon PRD... Profit center is not a CO object if the cost element category is 1....
Your COGS should be ideally Cost Ele Catg 1, which means without a Cost Center, IO or WBS you can not post..
2. As you say, COGS is flowing to COPA upon PGI, which means Prf Segment is the Cost Object for COGS account
Similarly, what is the CO object upon PRD and what is your cost ele category?
3. If it is 12 instead of 1, may be you can post to Profit Center also.. But system gives a warning message KI 166 Enter a true account assignment object with revenues.. You should convert it into Error in OBA5 so that you wont be able to post without a True CO Object
*4. The notes which I mentioned are both for flowing COGS as well as PRD into Costing based COPA*
Regards
Ajay M
Edited by: Ajay Maheshwari on Oct 14, 2010 10:35 AM
Edited by: Ajay Maheshwari on Oct 14, 2010 10:36 AM

Fixed & Variable Cost flow to COPA Value fields

Hi All,
I am using the Fixed & Variable Cost option that has to flow to COPA (under which mechanism it will flow to COPA Value fields).
as structure based sample from OKTZ to KE4R
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01
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01
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02
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2
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02
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2
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Variable Cost
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Values flow from PS to COPA

Dear Experts,
I am new to Project Systems. Our Implementation is based on Make to Order. My doubt is how the values will flow to COPA from Project Systems? What are required config should be done in COPA?
Please assist me,
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle.

Hi
MTO based on sales order is as good as Project Systems....
If your Project is defined as a CO object to collect the costs, you need to settle the WBS to COPA...
IF Project is not a CO object, then settle the prod order to COPA
br, Ajay M

COGS Value not flowing to COPA

Dear ALL
I am trying to post COGS/COGM to COPA, All revenues and discounts getting flow to COPA but COGS/COGM is not updating in COPA
Please any one send me solution
Thanks in Advance
Hemant

Dear Hemant,
Check whether you have maintained Standard average price in Accounting view of Material Master Record. You need to maintain Condition type VPRS in Pricing Proceedure with subtotal as B and Requirement as 4. Once you maintain this data will flow to COPA. and also Consult your SD Consultant.
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MBS

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