Vendor/Customer Account Group and Master Records

Hi Gurus,
Please tell me during implementation Vendor/Customer account groups and Master Records will be prepared by FI Consultants or MM, SD Consultants?
Waiting for reply
ThankYOu

Dear Verma
It is the usual practice that FI consultants should prepare Account group and also maintain General data and Company code date in Vendor/Customer masters. SD and MM consultants are informed by FI to maintain Sales and Purchase organization respectively by SD and MM consultants.
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Best Regards
Kesav

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