[Vista] No color profiles in Lightroom

I have a problem with printing in lightroom.
There are some more topics with printing problems, but not like mine.
The problem is that i would like Lightroom to manage the color profiles, but on the printing page, when i click the color profile field, i can only choose 'managed by printer' and 'other'.
When i click 'other', i get a popup screen, where i should be able to select a color profile, but this screen is completely empty, so there is nothing to select.
How can i make a color profile appear in this screen?
When i use printer managed, and select a color profile in my printer screen, i get very bad prints, thats why i want lightroom to manage the colors.
PS: i have a HP D5160 printer.

Hi Ronnie
I have exactly the same problem but using a HP 3210 all-in-one printer. HP doesn´t seem provide ICC profile for their printerns. So, I guess thats the reason no beeing able to view them i th manage by application dialog box.
I have serious problems getting acceptable colours on my prints from Lightroom 1.1 and 1.2 (no difference). No problem at all printing from Photoshop CS or Elements, getting fine printings.
When chatting with HP support they refuse to answer straight questions about ICC profiles and start blaming on Adobe applications instead. Really frustrating.
Really hope that someone finds an acceptable workaround.
//Sten

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