(W7 64) LR 4.3 print module is not wysiwyg

(W7 64) LR 4.3 print module is not wysiwyg .
My system is color managed (Monitor and Printer).
To show the problem :
Create a plain grey image with ICC profile(prophoto in my case).
Go to Print Module
Adjust "Page Background Color" to be identical grey (with the color picker tool)
Now all you have is a new uniform grey image (you can't tell what's image and what's background)
"Print to File" with ICC profile.
Original image (prophoto ICC Profile)
(Corner of) Image with Stroke Border (up) and without Stroke Border (bottom) to check that all colors are the same.
Result jpeg : Not wysiwyg ! Should be all grey.
Print Module doesn't color manage its colors ?

This file (it's just a screenshot of this browser window "Printed" from LR4) is an example of one that will produce the problem described in my OP: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36072/Misc.%20Forums/test1.jpg
It was produced with Lightroom 4.3 on OS X 10.6.8. It is using this (http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/Profiles/IccFiles/Florida/Costco-FL-Lantana-Gls.icc) icc profile (picked at random to maintain my anonyminity). Trying to open that image with any Apple application on either OS X 10.6 or 10.7 fails for me. I can successfully open the file in PS, Chrome and Firefox in both 10.6 and 10.7 without issues. On OS X 10.7 I get the following dialog when trying to open it with Preview:
Doing "Get Info" on the file results yields this:

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