WARNING - Oracle intends to desupport Forms client server mode

When Forms 6i becomes desupported you will have to move to Forms 9i. Forms 9i runtime can only be run in web mode from a web browser. You will not be able to run client-server forms in native operating systems such as Windows or Unix. The forms will essentially run on the application server with Java applets to being sent to your web browser. Links to third party products will no longer work with host commands executing on your local machine. You will have to include Java code to make local commands work.
The transition from Forms 6i client-server to Forms 9i web mode will be one of the most painful upgrades Oracle has ever inflicted on its customers.
Essentially, Oracle is trying to palm us off with running forms from web browsers whether we or our customers like it or not. Java seems to be creeping in. I suspect Developer will eventually turn into JDeveloper, as they will not want to support two products. Easy one line statements and built-ins will be replaced by hundreds of lines of Java nonsense. Developer will move from a 4GL RAD environment to a cumbersome bloated 3GL Java environment.
You can stop this happening if you want to keep you customers happy by:
1. Sending Oracle enhancement requests to allow Forms 9i to run in native client-server mode.
2. Complaining to your Oracle sales contact.
3. Asking difficult questions at Oracle user groups.

Duncan et al.,
I've been wondering why exactly a Forms9i app. needs to run in a web page? Why could the applet not be deployed in a more "standalone" fashion, i.e., an independent application window. This would at least offer the appearance of a native application, complete with the new Java look-and-feel.
If Oracle really wanted make their customers happy, they would then take the next step and come up with a way to embed OC4J into a client-side deployment executable, which would then effectively allow for a 2-tier client-server architecture.
It seems to me that 2-tier/3-tier each have their place in the world, depending on the situation. In the extreme "2-tier" example would be an application that is to be deployed on a single client workstation. It would be hard to argue that a separate application server ought to be used. On the other extreme, anybody who has tried to manage the deployment--and upgrade--of a large number of Forms clients is very attracted to the prospect of only having to maintain and upgrade a few application servers.
I agree with the direction of the product as far as replacing Toolkit2 and the native runtime with the JRE. The advantage of on-demand updating of application code is compelling. The capability of moving application logic to the middle tier is extremely useful. Platform independence is now done using the "universal" JRE instead of TK2.
If the product could maintain the client-side processing capability--without resorting to Javabeans--it would be just that much stronger. As an application architect, I want to be able to design the application to allocate the work where it makes the most sense, either on the client, the application server, or the database server.
How hard would it be to put this client-side processing capability back into the product?
Regards,
Bruce MacDonald

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