WebDB and HTML DB

Hello ,everybody!
HTML DB seems to be a very attractive instrument but can we be sure about his future? We had before WebDB and where is it now? Is the oblivion of this kind is possible for HTML DB (ApEx) after two-three years?

Hi Vatasi,
I suggest you read these threads, which give you a bit of background on HTMLDB/Apex history etc.
HTML DB History
Re: Orbit vs. HTML DB
Orbit vs. HTML DB
As for guarantees about its future, I tend to thing of it this way - if Oracle decided to drop Apex tomorrow, completely stopped developing, promoting and supporting it, then I would still have (in my opinion) one of the best web development environments I've ever used. For me, the software I develop is for a purpose, it fulfills a business requirement, therefore the key decision for me is "will Apex let me achieve the goal of meeting that business requirement". The answer I've found so far is usually yes.
I know people who still develop systems in Turbopascal, they've resisted the temptation to move to things like .NET etc, because for them the end result is to design a working system, not to do it in the latest greatest tool.
To take a silly example, if I was was evaluating Apex against another tool (let's call it X), and X provided me with a cast iron guarantee that it would be supported for the next 10 years. However the trade off is that development in tool X took 3 times longer than using Apex, would I be wise to choose tool X? Personally I'd say no....I've go with the tool that was quicker to develop, implement and maintain right now.

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David J.L. Martin" <<a href="/group/SunONE-JATO/post?protectID=114166018056146134184102046176231239071179066034">dave@t...</a>>
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    Subject: Re: [iPlanet-JATO] Tomcat 3.2 serving images and html?
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