What is Basic type in IDoc?

Hi all,
What is Basic type in IDoc? Please explain me in layman terms. How to see the details of basic type ALEREQ01? Please point me to related files or threads.
Thanks,
Charles.

Hi,
IDOC Basic type means, IDOC type delivered by SAP. When you want to modify the IDOC provided by SAP, you create an Extension IDOC of Basic type.
This is what SAP says about "Basic Type".
IDoc type supplied by SAP (standard format for data communication). Basic types can be modified by customers to create a new, upward-compatible IDoc type. Basic types can also be defined by customers and modified at a later date. Basic types and subsequent modifications created by customers are not necessarily upward-compatible.
To check detail of any IDOC, user transaction WE60.
Check area Menu WEDI. Its a Area menu for all IDOC related transaction. Enter command WEDI ( where you enter transaction code - Top left of screen ). Also, this command only works from very first screen of SAP. This is SAP eacy access screen you see when you logon into SAP. Since WEDI is area menu, you can only execute from very first screen.
Here is the list of other area menu.
WEDI - IDOC and EDI Basis
BALE - ALE Administration
Let me know if you need any other information.
Regards,
RS

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