What Is On Disc 2

Hello,
I am getting ready to do a complete system re-install of my Rev B iMac. Just when I thought I was ready to go, I booted up Disc 1 that came with the machine, and it states that I will also need Disc 2. I thought this was all on one DVD, but the envelope does have two slots, so I guess there are two. The problem is, I cannot find mine right now.
Can anyone tell me what is on Disc 2, so perhaps I could remove them from the install, or is something critical on there?
Are there any procedures for getting a replacement?
Thanks
Dan

Is that on a rev B imac (the one that shipped with Tiger) or a Rev A iMac (the one that shipped with panther)?
I'm afraid to start an install on my rev b because it is warning me that I need disc 2 (even though I did not select OS9), and I do not want to format the box without all the discs ready.
Thanks
Dan

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