What type of screws on PowerMac G3 Blue & White tower?

What kind of screws are being used on the PowerMac G3 Blue & White tower (for example, the ones that keep the handles and feet in place)? Hex (Allen) screws?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_key

Yes they are screws, and yes they have Allen (hex) heads. Mine respond well to M2.5 mm Allen wrench, and in a pinch a 3/32 inch is a little sloppy, but seems to work.

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PowerMac G3 Blue & White Hard Drive Trouble/Help Requested

Hey all,
I work for a small IT/computer repair company. We recently got in a PowerMac G3 Blue & White (300 MHz; 512K cache; 64 MB SDRAM) which has what appears to be a bad hard drive.
(Upon boot, it comes up with a flashing disk/question mark and you can hear the drive making noises it shouldn't be/spinning up and down/etc.). I've tried booting with the OS CD (8.5.1) in the drive and get a bit further, but it complains of an unimplemented trap, and if I try holding down C to boot up, it starts to load, but then the screen flashes and it eventually locks up (but without the hard drive connected at all doesn't even get that far; just a gray screen).
I've done some research and think my first step should be to replace the hard drive (though if that's not the case, I'd appreciate some insight). I haven't fixed many Macs before, though, so I still have several questions:
1.) The drive that came with the machine is a 6 GB IBM connected to the mainboard IDE interface. It lists it as having Apple HDD Firmware. Is this firmware required on any drive I'd have to get to work with this machine, or can I go with any IDE drive and not worry about it like with PC's (I'm going to stay as small as I can, but with newer drives, that's probably still a lot of gigs)?
2.) Similarly, when I do get a new drive, assuming that's the problem, will OS 8.5.1 be able to format and use it, as I've never done an install of this particular OS before. I'm assuming I just boot from CD and go through the process?
3.) Unfortunately, I've discovered this unit is using the Revision 1 chipset. So I may need to go for some sort of PCI IDE interface option. Any recommendations for a cheap solution here, and is this a definite must to get this working reliably?
4.) The owner of this machine also inquired about a DVD/CD burner (would have to be external as there's no room inside). Any recommendations that would work well with this machine, or is this machine not suited to using these types of drives well?
5.) Can this Apple G3 run Mac OSX well enough, as the client has also expressed interest in upgrading OSes, or is it too slow for this?
Thanks much for any help - this is fairly new territory for me!
Shaun

Shaun,
After the iMac killed the used Mac market and the G4 killed the value of the B&W G3, I closed up shop and moved on to better ways of making money. lol
One client wanted a newer mac cheap so I bought her a used B&W G3. One month later they came out with the Mac Mini for $125.00 more than a fully configured B&W. With in the year, that client moved up to a Mini. The B&W has plummeted in value since that day. Current market is G4 or better now.
For a hobby machine, it is still a great computer. To pay for service time at shop rate, that model can quickly become a money pit. You may have already checked out some sites like this:
http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3bw.php
so I apologize in advance if you already know the history of issues with that machine.
Yes we can walk you through the resurrection of a Blue and ***** ( honest typo) Mac, but religious preferences aside, if you value the client, tell them about the value of a mini. It was built to run OS X. It has behaved flawlessly ( except with MS Office ) for us here.
The model of B&W Mac that you mentioned has many service land mines. Those traps for the unwary can be easily avoided with SCSI interface cards and a SCSI drive. Your fees and the cost of the upgrades might add up to close to the cost of a bare bones Mini. Just something to consider.
First thing to do is to "zap the PRAM" and Texas mac man gives a good tutorial here:
http://www.geocities.com/texas_macman/pram.html
The Apple OEM HDD firmware is not required but it does make life much easier on your client.
If you have a spare Western Digital IDE drive kicking around, see if you can format it to Mac with Drive Setup in the Utilities folder of any drive you can get to boot that Mac after zapping the PRAM.
The Mini can be ordered with a DVD burner.
Good luck.
Jim

Simple things to do do help speed up your g3 blue & white tower

i know everyone here is having similer issues with running mac os x on a g3 blue and white tower well here are some simple tricks to help you out
from what i have learned
question: when i try to install mac os x on my g3 tower b&w the tower gives me a blank screen or doesn't show a boot screen even though the monitor is on
answer:make sure you have your old operating system installed before switching to mac os x and go into control panel and make sure your monitor settings are set to 640x480 or 800x600 then try to install mac os x the g3 seems to not like the mac os x installation being ran in 1024x1248 and this causes the system to hang or display nothing on the screen a simple fix once os x is installed you can switch the settings back to 1024x1248
question: after upgrading my hard drive to a 80 gig hard drive my programs crash or hang
answer: make sure your macintosh contains at least 256 megs of ram or even 512 megs of ram and update the ide caable in the g3 tower to a ata 133 hard drive cable the cable will help stop lag issues
question:i want to do video editing but i heard that the mac g3 tower is to slow to do so
answer: not true you can edit any video you want to on a g3 mac as long as you have enough memory and hard drive space and upgrade the cd drive or use a external dvdr rw drive for macintosh (warning though your quaity will be a little shaky but not bad)
doesany one have any other questions please post them here i would like to know

Any rev 1 you should avoid upgrading a drive to use the native IDE bus as anything that is capable of more than ~18MB/sec (all current drives) will result in data corruption, which is well documented.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/g3-zone etc.
It depends on what someone really means by "video editing" and how much time they have or are willing to wait - that is what the G5 Quad is built for
The difference between a maxed out G3/1000 1GB and 15K boot drive, Radeon 9200 still doesn't compare to MDD specs below. And unless you are using a 10K Raptor in the video slot (66MHz) disk I/O will be limited to 53MB which is all the PCI bus allows for writes.
A Core Duo Mini or iMacIntel unless you already have done all the upgrades, in which case you know what B&W will and will not do.

Mac Mini Vs G3 Blue & White Tower

Alright here is my question, we have a G3 right now that is running on OSX 3. something. I use this computer mostly for the net, Itunes, and photos and it a dog, it's slow and needs to be upgraded. So I thought, I might as well spend the money on a mini. The wife who uses the G3 for work sometimes when she is at home, doesn't think we will gain anything. She uses indesign, photoshop, things designers use. Since I don't use any of these programs, I think she's crazy. It would have to be better, could it be worse? I'm looking for a nuetral 3rd party, please help..

In itself a new mini would be WAY faster than your existing G3 - and for a general point of reference, the $799 mini has broadly similar performance to the original G5 dual processor 2Hz power mac released in late 2003.
Thus, on the face of it, you are right and your wife is wrong.
However, it's not quite that simple. Firstly, the mini uses generally slower laptop hard drives that spin at 5400rpm, and this tends to place a limit on their performance. In your case, your G3 likely also has the same general performance drives so that won't matter. What WILL though is the software being used.
For you, using iTunes, iPhoto, browsing the internet and such like, a mini would be like night and day in comparison to your G3. This is because these applications are written to run 'natively' on the Intel processors in the mini, so they run at full speed. The software your wife uses (inDesign and Photoshop) is written to run on the older G3, G4 and G5 processors. These will actually run on the Intel hardware, but require Rosetta, which is an application that does on-the-fly translation to allow PPC-based software to run on Intel-based hardware. It works, but isn't so fast, so her experience would not be so great.
To optimize performance, ideally you'd want to go for maxed out RAM of 2Gb. That would give Rosetta plenty of memory of it's own to run in, and a decent bit left for the application too. It won't be so fast, but it would be a notable improvement for her.
Of course, as and when new versions of these applications become available, they WILL be native, so she will then be able to gain the same performance boost that you'll enjoy from your software!
If it was me, I'd get one. In the short term it would improve your use markedly and give her some speed benefits too. In the long term with updated software, she would discover that the mini leaves the old G3 standing!

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Can anyone think of anything useful I can do with an old G3 Blue & White tower?
Its's the 300mhz model, 20GB HD (which I plan on upgrading immediately). I don't mind spending some money, I'm just not sure if it will be worth it or if there's really much I can do.
Are there any hardware upgrades I can do? I saw a site selling the processors and motherboards for a little more speed, but I'm not sure about compatibility....
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http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=powermac-g3-blue-white
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Hello
My brother has a G3 blue & white tower. His problem is how to get OS9 to boot on it. He wants to play os9 games on it but we can't get the os9 cd to boot to install it. It doesn't even have classic installed. How would we go about this? It currently has 10.3.9 installed.
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What type of hard disk should I use if I want to use it on mac and windows?

Hey Forum,
I am using windows xp on my macbook (snow leopard). I came across some dealers who say that there are hard disks for mac only and for both mac and windows. So, I wanted to buy a hard disk so that I can use it both on mac and windows xp, so what type of hard disk should I use? Must I partition into 2?
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In Mail, how do I get rid of the blue&white button that appears extreme right of Mail addressing pane (To)? What's its function?

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It was the older type (pre 80s) of cable with an earlier colour coding (CW 1293)
Here is the colour coding.
The predominate wire is the coloured wire ( Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Grey) It then has it's associated white wire which, if you carefully strip of the outer insulation of the overal cable you will see that this pair (Blue/white) is twisted together.
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PCI video card replacement for PowerMac G3 (Blue and White)

Hi, I am new to this forum. I apologize if this issue has been addressed before, but I have been reading over the forum for the last 2 days and tried all the steps I could find. I have an old PowerMac G3 (Blue and White).
It used to run fine. I had a friend with a similar computer and he
needed a video card, so I gave him the one in my Mac G3, because I was not using it at the time.
Now, I have decided I want to use it. I am running into an issue with the video (It takes PCI), I get no display, but I can hear the hard drive spin, it lights up, I hear the Apple "ding".
I have about 6 PCI video cards laying around, and I have tried all of them, resetting the CUDA each time. Still cannot get a display.
I have tried different slots on the motherboard, checked the PRAM battery, (it was good). Tried booting off a live Linux CD for power PCs, tried the commandoption+pr until I hear the apple "ding" go off 2x, I have tried a different monitor and monitor cable.
Nothing seems to work, I need to know what I should try next.
Thank you for your help in this matter.

"I have about 6 PCI video cards laying around, and I have tried all of them, resetting the CUDA each time. Still cannot get a display."
If these graphics cards are designed for use in PCs, they won't work in your Mac. Compatible graphics cards must be programmed with a Mac ROM. Some "PC" cards can have their EEPROM chip flashed with a Mac ROM, provided that someone has extracted the particular Mac ROM code for the card in question. A web search will provide leads for that. If you just want a decent graphics card, go for a Radeon 7000 Mac Edition (2002 vintage card). If you check eBay, you should be able to find a flashed "PC" Radeon 7000 card. I'd try to get the one with 64 MBs of DDR memory, as opposed to the 32 MB model. If you don't mind spending more $$, you can find a more current PCI graphics card for your G3, like the Radeon 9200 at Other World Computing.

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It was the older type (pre 80s) of cable with an earlier colour coding (CW 1293)
Here is the colour coding.
The predominate wire is the coloured wire ( Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Grey) It then has it's associated white wire which, if you carefully strip of the outer insulation of the overal cable you will see that this pair (Blue/white) is twisted together.
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What type of screws on PowerMac G3 Blue & White tower?

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