Which patch parameters "reset to saved value" on changes and which don't?
Despite having the preferences patch set to "reset to saved" AND all screen control inspector attributes set to "preference", AND updating to 2.0.1, I can't make sense out of why some parameters reset to "as-saved" and some don't when changing patches away then back again to a patch. Which parameters reset and which don't quite random and despite many tests and much manual reading I can't figure out the logic, so to speak.
I've been testing by changing a screen parameter on a patch, switching to another patch, then switching back to the first patch, expecting the first patch to be as it was when the concert was opened or last saved. Not so. I've tried this in many different concert templates and only gotten very inconsistent hair-pulling-out results despite much reading of manuals. I know that concert-level parameters take precedence over patch parameters but I'm testing what I am quite sure are patch parameters -- like instrument volume, or drive gain, or filters, etc. -- which do not perform consistently.
Eg: usually but not always, volume does NOT reset back to saved position when I return to a patch I moved it away from saved position on. Sometimes, but not always, deeper parameters like drive volume or bell volume (EP88) or EXS88 parameters will revert back to as-saved in one concert or even set, then in another they won't. On one of the preset concerts, everything works great ("Tonewheel organ"). On another, it's all over the map ("Keyboard with patches") with inconsistencies.
SO: Can anyone clarify if there's a certain type or family of patch parameters that I shouldn't expect to reset? Or are the factory patches buggy? Or is this still a buggy part of MainStage? Or am I looking at this wrong? Or what? Ahhhgggrrrrr.
This is a big deal as my keyboard tech and I prepare to use or not use MainStage's indredibly promising sounds on a European tour. I really want to, as I really hear a difference b/n even the best hardware and MS, but I have to know what to expect on stage. I was really hoping the new update would fix this, but no difference.
Thanks much for any clarification,
Neil
Actually I think the light bulb just went off, and it is indeed a semantic definition conflict. I thought "revert to saved" was about going back to the untweaked (saved) version of a patch every time you navigated back to it while playing, like in my hardware keyboard example. Upon dissection, I realize that this is about what happens when you actually SAVE the file after playing it; it either saves the file with changes to parameter values (keep current value) or saves the file without keeping the changed values (revert to saved).
The reason for the confusion is two-fold:
One why wouldn't you just "close without saving" if you want to revert to the saved values after playing? Like one does in other programs when you tweak away but want to retain the original version. Seems like overkill to have a preference dedicated to this, maybe you know the design philosophy.
Second, the language is very confusing:
The manual says, in this section, "You can set the default to either have parameters keep their current value when changing patches, or to reset their values to the last saved value".
This sounds like a behavior when changing patches. It's actually trying to say that this is the behavior for when you're saving after the playing time is over. Should have said "When saving a aconcert, you can set the default to either have parameters keep their current value including all changed patch parameters, or to reset their values to the last saved value, ignoring any changed patch parameters".
I still don't understand the reason for this VERY CONFUSING preference versus just closing without saving.
I'd appreciate it if you could confirm if we're looking at this correctly now, which would mean we have to re-think our tech approach to concerts.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion, but hopefully now you understand the reasons.
Neil
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