White Balance Shortcut

Working through the Aperture trial and can't seem to find a keyboard shortcut to bring up the WB tool. Would appreciate it if somone could point me in the right direction.
Thank-you.
Mark

It's not there. I have posted this forum and sent Aperture feedback aksing for this feature. Although Aperture is my primary platform for cataloging my images I work with LR for my unsupported cameras.
The absense of a WB shortcut is one reason that basic edits seem to move faster in LR.

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Hi all,
If I click on the White Balance dropper, then head all the way over to the picture to click on a grey spot, if I don't like the results, I have to go all the way back to the dropper, click on it again, and come back to another gray spot.
Is there a way to keep the dropper "on" until I turn it off? Or I suppose there's a keyboard shortcut? How do you all do this, checking a number of spots for white balance?
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There is a keyboard shortcut for the white balance dropper as well, but it's not documented anywhere. I'm unsure why this is.
And it only works if you have the adjustment panel showing .
Anyway, command-shift-w will bring up the white balance dropper, so you don't have to keep mousing.
Also the shift key note above will work as well, in that you can continually sample. In fact if you keep the shift key held down and move the eyedropper it will show you continuous real-time white balance changes.

White Balance pipette request for adjustment brushes

Just a suggestion in the hope that this gets introduced..
could we have the white balance sample pipette on the adjustment brush so that it is even easier to apply localised colour correction?
Cheers
Scot

I imagine sample white balance from an image means the same for localised adjustment brushes as it does when using the white balance pipette in the Basic panel.
click the white balance pipette or shortcut key W... move the pipette over an area you expect to be colour neutral, click and voila.. (Temp & Tint sliders adjusted to a neutral balance)
at least that is what I would hope to happen

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I have about 800 images from a wedding, and am now ready to go thru them and adjust the white balance.
However, am I missing something?
I click on the white balance option, then the dropper, then click on the image to adjust the white balance ...
But, when I go to the next image, I have to THEN click on white balance AGAIN then the dropper, then the image etc etc etc???!!!
Can I just click on the dropper once, then scroll thru the images to adjust without having to ACTIVATE the white balance option again and again and again?
When there are 800 images, adding in those extra two steps is slowing me down big time.
Does this make sense?
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So, I wanted to adjust each image individually but
without always having to click on White Balance
Adjustment each and every time. I really just want
to click thru and eye dropper the images.
Is this possible, or do I have to always go to the
adjustment pane and let the thing know I want white
balance adjustment after each image ...
I'm afraid the interface lets you down here. What's unfortunate is that there is no keyboard shortcut for the WB tool. There is for Edge Sharpen, for instance (ctrl-S) -- which means that for each image you can leave the HUD open and very quickly bring in the tool so its standard preset will be applied. It would be awfully nice to have that fast, mouseless capability with other tools.
(Query: since you can't get rid of default tools, which is why they're grayed out in the "+" menu on the HUD, why do they have keyboard shortcuts?? Pressing the shortcut doesn't toggle the tool off-and-on, or anything. Why do Color and Highlights & Shadows have ctrl-key shortcuts, and Crop and Straighten have non-ctrl-key shortcuts? Mysteries, mysteries.)
It might be most efficient to figure out what most images need, lift and stamp that setting, then go back and nudge or cancel the WB correction on the others. Depending on the numbers and proportion, of course.

White balance from a grey card

How to I use a grey card photo to adjust the white balance in other photos? Particularly in RAW.

Ah ... use Lift & Stamp.
White Balance is an adjustment. Adjustments are copied from one Image to others by lifting them (they show in the Lift & Stamp HUD) from the source Image, selecting target Images, and stamping. Note that lifting lifts all adjustments (and can also lift metadata). You can remove adjustments and metadata from the Lift & Stamp HUD before stamping Images.
I use the keyboard shortcuts ⌥⌘c to lift, and ⌥⌘v to stamp — but these may not be the defaults. Full information on using the Lift & Stamp feature is here in the User Manual.
Note the commands at the bottom of the Metadata menu. You should have three options for lifting: adjustments, metadata, and adjustments and metadata together. Your currently-assigned keyboard shortcuts show at the end of the line in the menu showing the name of the command.
—Kirby.

White balance dropper

Is there a way to make the eyedropper for Lightroom White Balance persist? In ACR I can select the eyedropper and click around the image to see the white balance from various points. In Lightroom after I click a spot the eyedropper is no longer active and I have to go select it again...
This is really slow and it'd be handy if I could click multiple spots... Is there a way to do this?

The people that designed the keyboard shortcuts and the user commands for LR did a great job. It's just a joy to use with the keyboard. There are always 3 ways to do the same thing and one of them works just right for me.

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Hi there, I am running Bridge CS6 on a Mac, and use Canon 5D and 5DMark 111 cameras. I have an issue with Bridge which I can not seem to figure out. Whether I shoot Raw or JPG and I am trying to do some testing for white balance, once I open the images in Bridge, in the little icon panel just below the folders/favourites panel etc I can see the f stop info, speed, metering , ISO etc, but the only icons I get for WB are if use auto - then I see AUTO. But when I do a manual WB like 'cloudy', 'tungsten', or 'shade' etc all I get are the symbols for 'Custom" or "Manual". How do I get the actual symbols for what type of WB i've chosen to show up?
I have purged the Cache - both in the individual folder and the overall Cache in preferences. I have checked that all the boxes are ticked in the preferences panel for the Metadata. So not sure what else to do.
Cheers D

Ok thanks for that, at least I wont be chasing my tail.
I did install the DNG converter 8.3 but I still NEF files as a NEF icon. Any clues to what I may not be doing right there?

Adobe Bridge - White balance metadata

When I browse raw files from my Canon EOS Rebel XT/350D in Adobe Bridge I always look at the Metadata tab to check for the f-stop value, speed, white balance settings, etc. of the currently-selected raw image file.
I noticed that the pictures shot in Automatic White Balance appear on the upper-left portion of the Metadata tab as an icon indicating AWB. However, whenever I take pictures with manually-set white balances, such as shade, day light, tungsten, etc., the metadata tab no longer indicates the white balance I chose, instead, it either shows an icon of a camera or two dashes, as in --.
Is there any way I can set Adobe Bridge to show the appropriate White Balance icon for pictures I take with manually-set white balances?

Hi Curt,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, White Balance is checked in preferences/metadata. All of the Exposure metadata entries are also checked.
I forgot to mention that my version of Camera Raw is 4.5 (the latest).
You know, although White Balance is checked, I cannot find a White Balance text entry on any of the metadata lists (File properties, IPTC core, Camera Data (EXIF), etc.). The only place where I can see the White Balance setting in on the upper left corner of the Metadata tab, under the f-stop value.
Here is a personal question for you: When you browse your pictures in Adobe Bridge and you select one that was taken with a specific White Balance (not Auto), does your Adobe Bridge display an icon for that particular White Balance setting? I just want to eliminate the possibility that this happening only in my computer.
Thanks a lot for your time and attention.

Imported images are given "flash" as white balance

Since I implemented LR3 and played around a.o. with some presets, all of my images (RAW) at import are transformed to the "flash" white balance, as shown in the Library right colomn and as can be seen in the image.
The images come out of the camera with a wb-info as the one set to the camera when shooting the image, so no problem with the camera. So I suspected some initial preset, but couldn't find it. Then, I imported the files into Photoshop 4 and Elements, and exactly the same thing happens: they convert immediately to the flash WB. So, is there a settings file that is shared by all three programs?
I checked the same files on my lap-top with LR3, and there LR shows the wb settings that I set on my camera; so the problem is with settings on my one PC.
Has anybody any idea how to get rid of this setting?
Rob

robijsselstein wrote:
My surprise is that the other programs use the same defaults apparently
The Default you set in LR is valid for ACR, no matter whether used under LR or under PS/PSE. Their values are also stored in the Camera Raw settings directory, not in the LR directory.
Beat

Can you remove the camera white balance setting in Aperture

I have a Canon 7D and use Aperture for processing and storing my images.
With the Canon I shoot both video and still and frequently adjust the white balance in the camera. I make a frequent mistake in leaving the wrong white balance setting on - eg when taking video indoors in the evening I set the white balance to indoors (the Canon seems poor at white balance decision making on video) and then I forget I'm not using auto white balance and switch to taking a photo with flash. The result is a horrible blue photo - which if I don't spot the problem at the time seems very hard to correct afterwards.
I use the Aperture white balance adjustments frequently but unless there is a patch or white or grey I an use the dropper on, I find this particular situation seems to be right off the scale of what I can fix in Aperture. I end up with sliders at the extremes of the scales and no intuitive sense of what numbers to type in manually to try and get realistic colour - so I often end up discarding these photos even if the shot itself is something I'd like to use.
So my question is given I'm importing RAW, is there a way to show the phoo without the (wrong) white balance setting I applied in the camera, to let me choose white balance from scratch?
Or if not, do you have any advice about how to adjust from this very bluey unrealistic colour of image?

Kirkby - thanks for the quick reply.
Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
In a specific example I have two photos - one taken with white balance set to flash and the photo was with flash, where after a bit of tweaking to get the colour I want the temp slider is at 5000K (and tint 0). The second photo has my shooting error with interior lighting white balance but taken with flash. The two shots were taken from almost the same point of the same view (but different people in frame). The shot with the white balance error comes off camera horribly blue coloured. I can fiddle with the two sliders - I take temperature to 20000K and tint to 40 to do the best with it I can, and with those settings one of the two faces is approaching flesh colour but the wall behind the subjects (which is a light blue in reality) is now appearing light yellow in places. I just can't get a good looking colour effect no matter ow extreme the slider settings.
I may have phrased my question badly - as I totally agree you can't show a raw without a colour setting - so maybe I'm better asking to be able to use a different colour setting on the raw data rather than having to start with adjustments on top of my white balance mistake.
Given the two shots were in the same place against the same background and the same lighting (both with flash) it seems to me I ought to be able to get a similar colour effect on both and I just can't. To illustrate here are the two photos (the one on the left was shot with flash wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 5000K and 0 tint, the one on the right was shot with indoor wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 20000K and 40 tint and it looks terrible!)
https://www.box.com/shared/qle3t6ovyhrd1egez3vc

Lightroom: Why does auto white balance no longer work after changing the camera calibration profile?

I'm using NEF raw files from Nikon.
Lets say for example I import a NEF file into Lightroom (v4) and click on 'auto' for white balance. The white balance in the image is adjusted correctly (somewhat). However, if I then change the camera profile (in the camera calibration section) from 'adobe standard' to 'camera standard' then the white balance in the image becomes very wrong. I then have to set the white balance back to 'as shot' and correct it manually instead.
Why would 'auto white balance' no longer work just because I change the profile from 'adobe standard' to 'camera standard'?
Any ideas?

Works as expected here...
Which Lr version and what OS??

White Balance Correction

Hi all,
This might be a question which is too "simple" for Aperture but here goes...
I am used to using Adobe or Nikon products to edit my RAW images, in those apps you could change white balance as if you were in camera (ie: daylight, shade, flash etc...). In Aperture it seems the only way I can adjust white balance is to click somewhere in the image which is white, is this correct?
Appreciate it.
MBP 15'' 2.16 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I think it what would put Aperture in a
better position would be to use the same system as
the competition
How can Aperture surpass the competition by copying them? The current system is workable for saving presets. I am looking for something much better out of Apple in the next revision of Aperture than just 'copying' the competition.
Aperture is innovative and ground-breaking software in many areas. We will have to wait a bit longer for them to fill in some weaker spots in a application.

White Balance Tool

I am using the following:
latest CS4 version
latest camera raw version
MAC 10.5.5
Can anyone help please - I open bridge, then open a raw file in camera raw. I then use the white balance tool. I go over the image with this tool to see the pixel values - but there are no pixel info showing on the R G B settings on the right (just below the graph). In Photoshop, this tool is working fine.
Is there a preference setting to activate this tool to work properly in camera raw?

Well, I have tested it again and the preference to start Bridge at log in, seems to be doing it. I ticked this off, closed down and started Bridge manually and the tool fully works OK with my work space. But could be something else, I don't know, but starting Bridge at log in on my computer seems to be this.
The saved work space I have set up as follows - on the left side of screen I have placed my favorites, folders, collections panels at top left, then underneath these, I have placed filter, metadata, keywords panels. I have no panels on the right and just have big thumbnails on the main area.
Anyway, thanks again, I can live with this now, I just start Bridge manually :-)

White Balance Setting Problem

APPLE COMPUTER:
THREE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
1. HOW DOES THE WHITE BALANCE TOOL WORK IN APERTURE?
2. HOW DO YOUR SOFTWARE ENGINEERS AND "PHOTOGRAPHIC CONSULTANTS" USE IT TO SET WHITE BALANCE?
3. WHAT ARE THE SIMILARITIES AND/OR DIFFERENCES IN ITS USE AS COMPARED TO SIMILAR TOOLS IN CAPTURE ONE PRO AND ADOBE PHOTOSHOP?

Test Results:
Aperture 1.1:
Image Temperature: 3594
Tint: -17
When using the white balance tool on a white section of a photo, the RGB values changed from R 255 G 234 B 192 to R 255 G 230 B 197 and the Temperature changed to 3946 and Tint to 12.
The photo still remained unacceptable.
When usint the white balance tool on a grey section of the same photo, the RGB values cahnge from R 211 G 178 B 126 to R 208 G 180 B 162 and the Temperatue changed to 3154 and Tint to 2.
The photo still remained unacceptable but was notably improved.
Using Capture One Pro, the results were as follows:
Temperatue: 3850
Tint: -10
When using the white balance tool on a white section of the same photo, the RGB values changed from R 255 G 241 B 200 to R 244 G 244 B 244 and the Temperature changed to 2500 and Tint to -16.
Photo was very acceptable with no perceivable colour cast.
When using the white balance tool on a grey section of the same photo, the RGB values changed from R 190 G 153 B 108 to R 153 G 153 B 153 and Temperature to 2550 and Tint to -2.
Photo was very acceptable with no perceivable colour cast.
From this quick test on a photo, I can draw the following conclusions:
1. Aperture interprets temperature and tint data differently from Capture One Pro, although this likely due to the use of a camera profile within Capture One Pro;
2. Using the white balance tool in Aperture on a "white" section does not neutralize the RGB values;
3. Using the white balance tool in Aperture on a "white" section does not correctly remove a colour cast within a photograph;
4. Using the white balance tool in Aperture on a "grey" section does not neutralize the RGB values; and
5. Using the white balance tool in Aperture on a "grey" section does not correctly remove a colour cast within a photograph, although it does work better.

White balance for infrared images

Hello there,
I love making infrared photos with my digital camera (Canon dSRL).
When I take an IR shot, I usually set the custom white balance inside the camera, so that false colours appear correctly. If I open the CR2 RAW file using the software provided by Canon (Digital Photo Professional) the image appears correctly; on the contrary, if I use Adobe Camera Raw (which I prefer to) it seems that my custom white balance is not properly displayed.
So I'm wondering if this is an issue of CR or there is something to do that I don't know. Can you help me?

This tutorial by Sean MacCormick shows how you can edit the camera profile so that White Balance for IR images is brought within the adjustment range that Camera Raw and Lightroom http://lightroom-blog.com/2009/05/creating-ir-camera-profile.html

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