Why can't i remove my start up programs?

I have 2 programs that launch in Start up (Windows Messenger and utorrent). But i don't want them to launch on start up. So i go to Users & Groups Preferences from the Menu Bar and i click Login Items. Then i click the lock because i want to make changes... I type in my Password then i select Microsoft Messenger and utorrent then click minimize the " - " Button for each then it shows its gone. then i click the lock. The Problem is when i go back to Users & Groups Preferences. The Windows Messenger Program and utorrent Shows up again. Please Help me it slows down my macbook pro on start up and i just dont want it to pop up when i log in.

Hi
have you tried looking inside the StartUpItems Folder in the Library Folder.
maybe there are some entries you are looking for.
there are 2 diff. places for startup items
System
  System/Library/StartupItems.
All Users
Library/StartupItems
One User
  ~/Library/StartupItems
finding the "One User" Library =
1. open finder and in the menu bar --> klick Goto AND pressing ALT Key. then you can see the aktuall User Library
Hope it works for you

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