Why does Time Machine folder sizes exceed physical capacity?

I have a MAC G3 Server Serving multiple MACs as a Storage, Media Server, and Time Machine storage. These other external MACs are all running Version 10.8.3. Only the Storage server is running 10.5.8.
All of the extenal Macs use Time Machine to backup to the served Storage media volume called "Time Machine".
The physical size of the "Time Machine" volume is 2.0 TB.
Yet when I am on the G3 Server, and perform a "Get Info" on the "Time Machine" volume, and also the folder that contains the Server's backups, the stored capacities exceed the physical capacity of the drive to which the volume resides.
The single physical drive is 2.0 GB and only has one partition called "Time Machine". In the root directory of this volume there is the one folder called Backups.backupdb, and a .sparsebundle DMG file for each of the remote systems that are bing backed up by Time Machine.
Each of the sparsebundles are well below the dirve's physical capacity, but both the local server's backup folder (Backups.backupdb) and the G3 server's local volume "Time Machine" show a used capcity that well exceeds the physical capacity of the drive on which it resides.
For example, here is the information from "Get Info" on the Backups.backupdb folder on the "Time Machine" volume when viewed from all systems:
Kind: Folder
Size: 3,456,930,478,415 bytes (3.46 TB on disk) for 122,254 items
But the Physical Volume "Get Info" shows this:
Kind: Volume
Capacity: 2.0 TB
Available: 169.92 GB
Used: 3,456,930,478,415 bytes (3.46 TB on disk) for 122,254 items
(NOTE: this is identical to the size
My guess is that there is some sort of deduplication involved.
If so, I would like to know the type of deduplication is performed?
Is it File Level deduplication, Block Level, or Content Level?
Also, is the deduplication inhererant on the volume (File System) level, or only specifically for Time Machine, via symbolic links?
Thank you in advance.
Jeff Cameron

This is due to the way Time Machine stores files. While there is only one copy of each version of each file stored, there are multple links to that file, and each link is reported in Get Info at its restored size.
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    2/10/2014 6:30:08.917 am com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187]: (com.qbix.CalendarStart) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.448 am com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[1047]: assertion failed: 13F34: liblaunch.dylib + 25164 [A40A0C7B-3216-39B4-8AE0-B5D3BAF1DA8A]: 0x25
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.934 am com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187]: (com.qbix.CalendarStart[1049]) Exited with code: 1
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.934 am com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187]: (com.qbix.CalendarStart) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.980 am com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[1047]: Bogus event received by listener connection:
    <error: 0x111766b50> { count = 1, contents =
    "XPCErrorDescription" => <string: 0x111766e60> { length = 18, contents = "Connection invalid" }
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.981 am librariand[219]: client process 349 does not have a valid com.apple.developer.ubiquity-container-identifiers entitlement
    2/10/2014 6:30:18.982 am librariand[219]: error in handle_container_path_request: LibrarianErrorDomain/9/The client process does not have a valid com.apple.developer.ubiquity-container-identifiers entitlement
    2/10/2014 6:30:20.551 am com.apple.backupd[907]: Copied 204 items (4.3 MB) from volume Macintosh HD iMac 21.5-inch, Late 2013. Linked 1778.
    2/10/2014 6:30:21.935 am com.apple.backupd[907]: Created new backup: 2014-10-02-063021
    2/10/2014 6:30:22.625 am launchservicesd[98]: Application App:"Monosnap" asn:0x0-28028 pid:349 refs=5 @ 0x7ff443632f50 tried to be brought forward, but isn't in fPermittedFrontApps ( ( "LSApplication:0x0-0x6c06c pid=1034 "SecurityAgent"")), so denying. : LASSession.cp #1481 SetFrontApplication() q=LSSession 100004/0x186a4 queue
    2/10/2014 6:30:22.625 am WindowServer[122]: [cps/setfront] Failed setting the front application to Monosnap, psn 0x0-0x28028, securitySessionID=0x186a4, err=-13066
    2/10/2014 6:30:22.874 am WindowServer[122]: CGXSetWindowLevel: Operation on a window 0x236 requiring rights kCGSWindowRightPresenter by caller com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSav
    2/10/2014 6:30:22.874 am com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[1047]: CGSSetWindowLevel
    2/10/2014 6:30:22.874 am com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[1047]: PSsetwindowlevel, error setting window level (1001)
    2/10/2014 6:30:24.868 am com.apple.backupd[907]: Starting post-backup thinning
    2/10/2014 6:30:24.868 am com.apple.backupd[907]: No post-backup thinning needed: no expired backups exist
    2/10/2014 6:30:24.898 am com.apple.backupd[907]: Backup completed successfully.
    2/10/2014 6:30:25.501 am launchservicesd[98]: Application App:"Finder" asn:0x0-b00b pid:206 refs=7 @ 0x7ff443429180 tried to be brought forward, but isn't in fPermittedFrontApps ( ( "LSApplication:0x0-0x6c06c pid=1034 "SecurityAgent"")), so denying. : LASSession.cp #1481 SetFrontApplication() q=LSSession 100004/0x186a4 queue
    2/10/2014 6:30:25.502 am WindowServer[122]: [cps/setfront] Failed setting the front application to Finder, psn 0x0-0xb00b, securitySessionID=0x186a4, err=-13066
    2/10/2014 6:30:28.952 am com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187]: (com.qbix.CalendarStart[1056]) Exited with code: 1
    2/10/2014 6:30:28.952 am com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[187]: (com.qbix.CalendarStart) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
    Still restores only the first 7 files of 955.
    I appreciate your efforts to help. That's a lot of files that are lost!

  • Time Machine Folder Sizes

    I have calculate folder sizes on but when looking through time machine folders the size is not indicated. Anyone know why?
    Rachael

    Time Machine keeps one big backup of your whole drive. Then from there, it stores hourly backups for the past 24 hours plus daily backups for the past month and weekly backups until your drive is full.
    iTunes libraries are probably the biggest culprit in rapidly filling Time Machine drives. You can go into Time Machine Options to exclude certain folders to help. But in general, the design of Time Machine is that it will use up all the space you give it. Once your drive is full, it will dump the older data (I believe it will prompt you when that happens).
    If you want to limit what Time Machine can use, you may want to partition your external drive using Disk Utility. That will basically 'block off' a section of the disk drive to use for Time Machine, leaving the rest available for whatever you want. Be careful, though - while partitioning a drive isn't that difficult to do (especially under Leopard), making a mistake could cause you to lose the data on the drive you're working on.

  • HT204057 Why does Time Machine no longer support external hard drives connected to an Airport Extreme base station?

    I'm pretty sure that upto a few months ago I had a hard disk connected via USB to my Airport Extreme and I was able to backup all the computers on my home network. However, somehow over the last few months this had stopped happening. I am not able to select my network disks for time machine backup.
    There is a very unhelpful sentence on Apple's website which simply says it does not allow backup to hard disks connected to Airport Extreme via USB. Does anyone know why this is? Is there a way around this? Can I connect a drive to my desktop computer and have other computers backup through the network to that?

    This was never an approved configuration: OS X Mountain Lion: Disks you can use with Time Machine
    Can I connect a drive to my desktop computer and have other computers backup through the network to that?
    The above KB article indicates you can, though I have not personally tried it.

  • Why does time machine make a second/different backup after new installing a hard drive?

    Hi all,
    Long time reader, first time poster...
    after having to install a new hard drive on my MacBook Pro, the new Time Machine backups are not recognising the original/older backups on the external hard drive connected via network router and has created a new/second backup caller 'xxx Mac Book Pro 1' instead of updating/reading the orginal 'xxx Mac Book Pro backup'?
    Does anyone know why it did this? and more importantly how do i make it recgonise the original and stop making the secondary copy?
    Thanks!

    Hi gb69,
    If you are having issues with Time Machine backups after a recent hardware change, you may find the following article helpful:
    Time Machine: Troubleshooting backup issues
    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3275
    Regards,
    - Brenden

  • HT3275 Why does Time Machine say it's unable to back up because the disk is full -- even tho it's supposed to delete the oldest backups when that happens?

    I'm running OS 10.6.8 on an imac from around 2011.  I back up with Time Machine to an external hard drive that has about 500 GB.  Until now, I've had no problemsm, or at least that's what I thought.  But today I'm getting a message every hour saying "Time machine is unable to back up because the disk is full."  It IS full, but Time Machine is supposed to delete the oldest backups when that happens, and keep deleting them in order.
    Anyway, when I opened up my backup disk I discovered backups from February and most of March, nothing in April and nothing in May.
    I'm a little freaked.
    Does anybody know why that would happen and what to do about it?
    Thanks in advance.

    Hello, I don't use TM, but...
    Have you looked through Pondini's extensive TM help site?
    http://Pondini.org/TM/FAQ.html
    http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
    Can't imagine something not being covered there.

  • Why does Time Machine forget "everything" after Mountain Lion update?

    After updating to Mountain Lion (from Snow Leopard), I fired up my trusty external hard drive which contains my Time Machine backups (and nothing else) - of course I had run a backup right before upgrading to be sure. Two things are deeply disturbing: 1) The drive keeps on "rattling" as if a process is constantly reading or writing to it - even with Time Machine "OFF". Why? I (tried to) explicitly disable(d) Spotlight searching that drive, and nothing else should be accessing it! (I wish there was a way to simply turn Spotlight OFF for a while - I suspect it of a lot of crashes I experience).
    Anyway, even more disturbing: Opening the System Preference Panel and sliding Time Machine to "On", it claims there is NO backup at all! Oldest backup: "NONE". Latest backup: "NONE". This is B.S.!  BTW, opening the "Time Machine" app proper shows all the recent backups, so they are still there. So why doesn't the Time Machine Preference Panel not recognize them?  Under these circumstances, is it safe to enable backups??? I am very afraid that if I let Time Machine proceed, it will try to create a full new backup, perhaps overriding all the snapshots from the past that are still stored on that disk. For one, even at 1 TB, my disk is not big enough to take another full backup on top of what's already stored on there. Any advice (other than "buy another hard disk just to be safe")?
    O.k., I admit, so far I'm more upset with Mountain Lion than impressed.

    Dear Pondini,
    I am grateful for your advice and encouraging words, but I am (and remain) at my wit's ends as far as Time Machine is concerned. While I'm sure 99.99% of Mac users have no problem, there must be SOMETHING idiosyncratic about my own setup that has consistently crashed TM in the past, and now (after upgrading to Mountain Lion), it simply refuses to work EVER. Mind you, I'm NOT a "hacker" who installs non-standard software or likes to poke around in the Kernel.
    Below is a shortened version of the Console output during my latest attempt - after 3 tries (after running disk utility to repair my permissions and check the hard drive), it never makes it beyond about 4 Gb before crashing. (And, what's worse, if I don't immediately react, TM very often crashes the whole computer to the point where NOTHING works anymore - requiring a restart. Even with Mountain Lion).
    Thanks for any offer of help from anyone... SK
    THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE I TRIED TO START THE BACKUP
    7/30/12 12:42:46.697 PM WindowServer[73]: [cps/setfront] Failed setting the front application to Finder, psn 0x0-0xc00c, securitySessionID=0x186a4, err=-13066 _
    7/30/12 12:46:53.815 PM UserEventAgent[180]: com.apple.TMLaunchAgent disabled
    NONE OF THE ABOVE WAS IN RESPONSE TO ANYTHING I DID! BUT MAYBE A CLUE?
    ANYWAY, HERE GOES  (with many repetitive lines removed - indicated by gaps):
    7/30/12 12:48:52.885 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Starting manual backup
    7/30/12 12:48:53.475 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Backing up to: /Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb
    7/30/12 12:48:55.101 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD
    7/30/12 12:48:55.799 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Deep event scan at path:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|
    7/30/12 12:49:20.607 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[156]: (com.apple.KerberosHelper.LKDCHelper[212]) Exited with code: 1
    7/30/12 12:54:19.579 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Finished scan
    7/30/12 12:59:57.836 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Found 470214 files (18.15 GB) needing backup
    7/30/12 12:59:58.422 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: 24.03 GB required (including padding), 312.52 GB available
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: jnl: disk1s2: do_jnl_io: strategy err 0x5
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: jnl: disk1s2: write_journal_header: error writing the journal header!
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:28.693 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error (256): fetching properties: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=256 "The file “Credits.rtf” couldn’t be opened." UserInfo=0x7f8b749355c0 {NSURL=file://localhost/Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn%E2%80%99s%20Mac Book%20Pro/2012-07-26-114729/Macintosh%20HD/Applications/Preview.app/Contents/Re sources/zh_TW.lproj/Credits.rtf, NSFilePath=/Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2012-07-26-114729/Macintosh HD/Applications/Preview.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/Credits.rtf, NSUnderlyingError=0x7f8b7493fff0 "The operation couldn’t be completed. Input/output error"}
    7/30/12 1:05:28.694 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (-50) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/Credits.rtf to /Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2012-07-30-124855.inProgress/A9556B25-47FE-4D1F-A2C9-BF18EEF78898/Macintosh HD/Applications/Preview.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj
    7/30/12 1:05:28.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:30.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:30.341 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.341 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (-50) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/version.plist to /Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2012-07-30-124855.inProgress/A9556B25-47FE-4D1F-A2C9-BF18EEF78898/Macintosh HD/Applications/Preview.app/Contents
    7/30/12 1:05:30.341 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.341 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (-50) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/XPCServices to /Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2012-07-30-124855.inProgress/A9556B25-47FE-4D1F-A2C9-BF18EEF78898/Macintosh HD/Applications/Preview.app/Contents
    7/30/12 1:05:30.381 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Stopping backup.
    7/30/12 1:05:30.381 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.381 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/XPCServices/com.apple.Preview.TrustedBookmar ksService.xpc/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources to (null)
    7/30/12 1:05:30.385 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.386 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.386 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Copied 96604 files (2.26 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
    7/30/12 1:05:30.386 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.387 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Copy stage failed with error:11
    7/30/12 1:05:30.389 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error writing to backup log.  NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Invalid argument
    7/30/12 1:05:30.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:30.464 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (5) getxattr for key:com.apple.backupd.SnapshotState path:/Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2011-06-14-140802
    7/30/12 1:05:30.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:31.178 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (5) getxattr for key:com.apple.backupd.SnapshotState path:/Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro/2012-07-26-114729
    7/30/12 1:05:31.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    7/30/12 1:05:31.248 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Error: (22) setxattr for key:com.apple.backupd.HostUUID path:/Volumes/TimeShare/Backups.backupdb/kuhn’s MacBook Pro size:37
    7/30/12 1:05:41.526 PM com.apple.backupd[320]: Backup failed with error: 11
    7/30/12 1:09:42.396 PM mtmfs[37]: filesystem unmount attempted from stopFS
    7/30/12 1:09:42.557 PM mtmfs[37]: unmount failed for /Volumes/MobileBackups
    NOTE THE FAILURE TO UNMOUNT
    7/30/12 1:10:02.499 PM fseventsd[48]: disk logger: failed to open output file /Volumes/TimeShare/.fseventsd/636573369d318daf (Invalid argument). mount point /Volumes/TimeShare/.fseventsd
    7/30/12 1:10:04.000 PM kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
    HERE I USED "FORCE EJECT"
    7/30/12 1:10:04.799 PM fseventsd[48]: disk logger: failed to open output file /Volumes/TimeShare/.fseventsd/636573369d318daf (Invalid argument). mount point /Volumes/TimeShare/.fseventsd
    7/30/12 1:10:05.000 PM kernel[0]: jnl: disk1s2: close: journal 0xffffff8042d1bcc0, is invalid.  aborting outstanding transactions

  • Why does Time Machine not work over wifi but only via ethernet cable ?

    Hi everyone,
    It's been some time I have this problem now.
    The first time I backed up my mac within Time Capsule with time machine, I chose to use the ethernet cable because the gigabit connection is much faster than the wifi for the first back up, but now, any time I want to update this back up, I need to connect the cable, cause "Time Machine can not connect to the Drive I picked" over wifi.
    This is so annoying. Does anyone have a similar issue ?
    Any solution ?
    When I got this "error" I can use Utility Airport and get full access to the drive, even in finder. The only thing that doesn't work is TimeMachine connecting to the drive, even if it is detected by TimeMachine itself.
    Thanks.
    Riccardo

    Typical Yosemite.
    I suggest a full reconfigure of the TC.
    Follow this list..
    No files are deleted on the TC doing this although you might have to repoint your laptop to the backup.
    Note.. even if TM does connect it will say it is going to do a new backup.. it is only when it starts that it discovers the backup exists and increments it.
    Start from a factory reset. No files are lost on the hard disk doing this.
    Factory reset universal
    Power off the TC.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the TC to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.
    N.B. None of your files on the hard disk of the TC are deleted.. this simply clears out the router settings of the TC.
    Setup the TC again.
    Then redo the setup from the computer with Yosemite.
    1. Use very short names.. NOT APPLE RECOMMENDED names. No spaces and pure alphanumerics.
    eg TCgen5 for basestation and and TCwifi wireless name.
    If the issue is wireless use TC24ghz and TC5ghz with fixed channels as this also seems to help stop the nonsense. But this can be tried in the second round. ie plan on a first and second round of changes to fix this.. hopefully.. I will point out other steps that can be round2.
    2. Use all passwords that also comply with 1. but can be a bit longer. ie 8-20 characters mixed case and numbers.. no non-alphanumerics.
    3. If the TC is main router you can skip this point. This is only an issue when the TC is bridged.
    Ensure the TC always takes the same IP address.. you will need to do this on the main router using dhcp reservation.. or a bit more complex setup using static IP in the TC. But this is important.. having IP drift all over the place when Yosemite cannot remember its own name for 5 min after a reboot makes for poor networking.
    4. Check your share name on the computer is not changing.. make sure it also complies with the above.. short no spaces and pure alphanumeric.. but this change will mess up your TM backup.. so be prepared to do a new full backup. Sorry.. keep this one for second round if you want to avoid a new backup.
    5. Mount the TC disk in the computer manually.
    In Finder, Go, Connect to server from the top menu,
    Type in SMB://192.168.0.254 (or whatever the TC ip is which you have now made static. As a router by default it is 10.0.1.1 and I encourage people to stick with that unless you know what you are doing).
    You can use name.. SMB://TCgen5.local where you replace TCgen5 with your TC name.. local is the default domain of the TC and doesn't change.
    However names are not so easy as IP address.. nor as reliable. At least not in Yosemite they aren't. The domain can also be an issue if you are not plugged or wireless directly to the TC.
    6. Make sure IPv6 is set to link-local only in the computer. For example wireless open the network preferences, wireless and advanced / TCP/IP.. and fix the IPv6. to link-local only. Do the same for ethernet if you use it.
    There is a lot more jiggery pokery you can try but the above is a good start.. if you find it still unreliable.. don't be surprised.
    You might need to do some more work on the computer itself. eg Reset the PRAM.. has helped some people. Clean install of the OS is also helpful if you upgrade installed.
    Tell us how you go.
    Someone posted a solution.. See this thread.
    Macbook can't find Time Capsule anymore
    Start from the bottom and work up.. I have a list of good network practice changes but I have avoided Yosemites bug heaven.
    Yosemite has serious DNS bug in the networking application.. here is the lets say more arcane method of fixing it by doing a network transplant from mavericks.
    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/01/why-dns-in-os-x-10-10-is-broken-and-what-yo u-can-do-to-fix-it/

  • Why does Time machine not delete old backups

    I dont understand Why time machine is not deleting old backups. As it worked first time with the same size backup drive as the drive its backing up, I assumed it would just delete the old backup as needed. Do I need a bigger backup drive?

    Roglee wrote:
    I just want it to delete the old backup & replace it so i just have a copy. I guess i could just re format the drive each time but that just seems a waste of my time when TM should do this for me!
    If this is all you want to do, turn off Time Machine, download SuperDuper! and use it for free. This will clone whatever drive you want and the free trial will erase your back up drive each time. I can't remember if it will let you choose what to back up or if it wants the entire drive. Also, I'm not sure if the Scheduler works with the free trial. Below are some verbiage for SuperDuper!. Looks like if you want Scheduling you will have to purchase a license.
    Download Now! 
    You can download SuperDuper! v2.7.1 right now and back up and clone your drives for free— forever! 
    Buy Now!
    Buy now to unlock scheduling, Smart Update (which saves a lot of time), Sandboxes, scripting and more!
    Time Machine will keep making back ups and when it determines it needs space, it will delete older back ups. But it doesn't delete older ones each time it backs up.

  • Question: Why does Time Machine hang on cloned drive?

    I migrated my Main HD to a faster WD Velociraptor. I used the great utility Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the drive.
    After a successful clone, I renamed the orignal HD (old) and duplicated the original HDD name to the new one. I shutdown, and removed the old HDD from my MacPro, and installed the New Main HD clone in it's place and rebooted.
    The system came up and all looked fine until Time Machine started to index and then deleting old Backups indication. It did this for 2 hours! I let it run overnight figuring it was cleaning old backups.
    This morning it had /!\ as the icon and Failed Backup indicated.
    Instead of deleting the old TM backups folder on the specific HDD I use, I just formatted it, and re-assigned it as the TM HDD. It is fine now.
    So what happened? How can I prevent this? Is there some file hidden and not cloned that affects TM?

    Eddie Ski wrote:
    This morning it had /!\ as the icon and Failed Backup indicated.
    Most likely, it failed for lack of space for the new backup.
    So what happened? How can I prevent this? Is there some file hidden and not cloned that affects TM?
    The new drive may have all the same stuff on it as the old one, but it does have a different UUID (Universally Unique IDentifier), and that's what OSX uses to keep track of drives, not their names.
    So Time Machine sees a different drive, and its whole role in life is to back up whatever's new or changed, so that's what it does. You cannot prevent it.

  • Why does Time machine still ask for a disk when it is switched off?

    My Time Capsule recently died, PSU problems , I think. So I went into system prefs and deselected the Time Capsule as the back-up disk in Time Machine and switched off Time Machine. Yet every few minutes I get a window appearing telling me Time Machine can't find a back-up disk. Why is this happening and how do I stop it? Thanks
    Mac Pro 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon, 6 Gb RAM, OS 10.8.2

    Mountain Lion may expect to be using a local disk if external is not available..
    Delete the plist.. this gives info.. whether it helps I don't know.
    http://pondini.org/TM/A4.html

  • Why does time machine back up change root directory of software?

    about a year ago i did a time machine back up of my old macbook pro, then when i came to use a piece of software (native instruments-traktor) it said the root directory had been changed and it couldnt find the file. i had to remove the whole program from my mac and redownload it. then since then had no problems.
    now ive just purchased a new macbook today and wanted all my old files and software on it so i did a migration expert with time machine. it seems to have bought most things over.....a few files are missing from logic but again when i went open traktor, again it said root directory changed,,,im not to good with these root directorys so havent got a clue what to do so again ive had to remove the program and redownload it which is a bit of a pain.
    any ideas why time machine changes it??

    I'm also puzzled because it continually wants to back up some 15MB or more when I've changed nothing
    Suggest that you download and install BackupLoupe to find out exactly what is being backed up on each pass.
    soma-zone: BackupLoupe
    If you want to change the backup frequency of Time Machine, an application like Time Machine Editor will allow you schedule backups whenever you like. But, you may not need to do this if you can figure out what might be causing the first issue.
    TimeMachineEditor
    If you ever decide to delete Time Machine Editor, be sure to change the backup frequency back to hourly before you delete the application.

  • Why Does Time Machine Corrupt Files It Restores?

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