Windows 7 beta, 64-bit, on a Mac Pro

I'm about to attempt this, so I thought I'd gather together some tips on it. Found this thread re MacBook Pros:
http://ourcoffeestops.com/2009/01/guide-windows-7-x64-build-7000-on-a-macbook-pr o/
Has anybody else tried this on a Mac Pro with any success?
I've got a GEForce 8800 GT, early-2008 Mac Pro with 2 x Quad core. Any advice?
Thanks

If you had installed Vista, they you probably know most all the how and why, and just need tips on what is new and different.
Main new item to be aware of:
Older driver updates and installers (like Apple Boot Camp) have to run in a new "Vista Compatibile Mode" property setting. It may not run, or run and not really be successful.
You will need to reinstall or install RealTek audio driver yourself.
Pull your drives and leave one raw drive in there, formatted as Master Boot Record and FAT (MSDOS) and boot from the Windows 7 DVD you burned earlier in Disk Utility.
If someone has a Mac Pro from pre-2008, it has a different EFI32 firmware, not UEFI 2.x (EFI64) and may see an EFI boot menu when first boot from Windows 7 DVD (or Vista SP1 or later) when using 64-bit (Microsoft added some support for EFI in 64-bit versions post Vista SP1).
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2731677&SiteID=1
http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-467704.html
https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-installation-instructions.aspx
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I writ again my problem
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