Wireless instability in new Macbook pro (late 2008) (uniblock model)
I have been experiencing the same kind of instability problems with the wireless connections of the new Macbook pro (late 2008 "unibody") reported in other posts in this section.
My network configuration includes a Time Capsule base station(802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)) and an Airport Express(802.11n) that extends the network and is used mostly for wireless music feeding into sound equipment.
I have been using this network for months with my old MBP (Core Duo,15.4', 2.16 MHz) and it works perfectly. From that notebook iTunes recognizes the Airport express immediately and feeds music without any problems.
I transferred all my configuration to the new Macbook Pro (late 2008 - which is indeed a beautiful piece of hardware, exquisitely designed) and everything works perfectly... except the wireless connection.
It behaves quite unstably. Usually, it is necessary to turn airport off and on several times in the computer to get iTunes to connect to the Airport Express. Even then, the music stream suffers from frequent interruptions and suddenly gets in trouble and looses connection.
While iTunes is trying to reconnect to the Airport Express, usually the internet connection fails altogether, making it necessary to turn airport off and on in the notebook to restart all the wireless connections.
All along, the old MBP wireless connections behave perfectly, proving the problem is in the new Macbook (late 2008) and not in the network.
I have loaded all the firmware and software updates available in the Apple site, and the behaviour improved somewhat with the EFI firmware update 1.6 and SMC firmware update 1.2. I also reset the SMC.
However, the problem is still there and appears now and then seemingly without a pattern.
Folks: *there may be a power/signal issue going on here.* I had a similar problem of my network connection dragging to practically nothing when hooking up my LaCie external drive to the USB port. Please see my post below (link and text)
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9914924#9914924
Folks:
Apple needs to get on this issue fast; after turning off my N mode on my WRT160N Linksys Router, I got my packet speed back up to where it should be... HOWEVER I noticed another problem.
When I hooked up my LaCie external drive (connected via USB), my packets on PING practically stall to nothing. I then eject the external USB drive and re-ping and I get acceptable packet speeds; I re-connect the LaCie external drive to the USB port and my PING crawls to nothing.
There is CLEARLY a correlation between the network speed crawling to nothing while hooking up an external drive; possibly a power sink and/or signal interference on the Airport when hooking up a USB device? (or perhaps even Firewire 800 too?)
I sure hope Apple is reading this one, because this could be a MAJOR issue that needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Can I use my old Macbook Pro Ram in the New Macbook Pro (late 2008)
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No. The DDR2 RAM in your older computer is not the same as the DDR3 RAM used in the new ones. There are significant differences between them not the least of which is pin count.
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Broken key on new macbook pro (late 2008)?
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How to restore Firmware on New MacBook Pro late 2008?
Hello, when I migrated contents from my old MBP to the New MBP it also transferred some of the utility software, and I accidentally activated FanControl and that seemed to permanently altered the fan setting of the new MBP.
How can I reset the firmware of the new MBP, so I can reset the fan temp/speed setting to default? Deleting FanControl utility does not seem to work.
A quick call to Apple support told me to just re-install the OS, and that sets everything back to the factory state, including the fan speed. Is this true?
I'm looking for the "Firmware Restoration CD" in the apple site but there is nothing newer after April. I suppose this 1.7 version will not work on ours.Hi volume244;
If Apple told you to reinstall to reset, why do you think we would know better then they do?
Personally, if it were mine I would take it back to Apple and ask them to fix it.
Allan -
MacBook Pro (late 2008) & Vista Biz 64bit
Hi:
Just got a new Macbook Pro (late 2008) and wanted to know if Windows Vista 64bit will run under Boot Camp?
Thanks,
Marchttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1846 hasn't been updated, and yes it seems to work... with some minor issues (when or where are the latest BootCamp Apple setup services and drivers?) for new logicboard and chipset... so you will see errors and may have to do a "repair reinstall" but it works.
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Flashing Question mark: New hard drive not working Macbook Pro late 2008
After following several peoples advice on this forum I decided to upgrade my Macbook Pro late 2008 with a Seagate (1TB) Solid State Hybrid Drive 2.5 inch.
Heres the device.
http://www.morecomputers.com/spec.aspx?pn=ST1000LM014
After creating a mountable boot on a External hard drive with Mavericks install I removed the current hard drive and replaced with the new seagate drive. However it didn't seem to recognize the external hard drive (it is quite old but works perfectly) and went to a flashing grey question mark screen and wouldnt do anything else. Ive tried holding down command-r and option-r but I get nothing. Its just the same flashing question mark. I have done this several times and the same result.
I put the old drive back in and it works fine.
I am trying to work out is the problem with the mountable external hard drive OR is it the hard drive is not compatible with my computer?
Appreciate your help
GarySorry I think you may be confused.
I am trying to install the new Seagate hard drive to my mac (not as an external hard drive).
I replace the macbook pro hard drive with the seagate drive:
http://www.morecomputers.com/spec.aspx?pn=ST1000LM014
I then started up the machine with a usb external hard drive with a boot copy of mavericks on it. However, it just displayed a flashing question mark and wouldnt start booting the osx.
I am trying to work out is the problem with the mountable external hard drive OR is it the hard drive is not compatible with my computer? Im guessing it must be hard drive. Would it be better to use a USB pen drive as the external hard drive is quite old?
Does anyone know what the problem could be as the hard drive is brand new.
Appreciate your help
Thanks, Gary -
My macbook pro late 2008 randomly freeze
Hi I recently upgrade my macbook pro Late 2008 by adding a 250 go Crucial SSD drive in the main harddrive spot. I also put a 1 To HDD in the place of the super drive.
Since then, my macbook randomly freeze. I can't see any link to any specific usage. It just happen for no reasons. I had to reboot by holding the power button.
Thanks for your help!
Here is the informations I collect using the software "EtreCheck":
Description du problème :
L’ordinateur gèle sans raisons. Peu importe le moment ou l’intensité de l’utilisation.
EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)
Report generated 18 avril 2015 13:21:13 UTC−4
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MacBook Pro (15 pouces, fin 2008) (Caractéristiques techniques)
MacBook Pro - modèle : MacBookPro5,1
1 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU : 2-core
8 GB RAM Extensible
BANK 0/DIMM0
4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
BANK 0/DIMM1
4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Vieux - Handoff/Airdrop2 pas disponible
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
La santé de la batterie : Normal - Comptage de cycles 155
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NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM : 256 MB
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT - VRAM : 256 MB
Color LCD 1440 x 900
SMBX2450 spdisplays_1080p
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OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) - Temps depuis le démarrage : 0:7:8
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Crucial_CT256MX100SSD1 disk0 : (256,06 GB)
EFI (disk0s1) <non monté> : 210 Mo
New Macintosh HD - SSD 2014 (disk0s2) / : 255.72 Go (66.29 Go libre)
ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB disk1 : (1 TB)
EFI (disk1s1) <non monté> : 210 Mo
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Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Brother HL-L2360D series
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Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
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Chronicle Mini UNKNOWN (missing value)
MenuTab for Facebook UNKNOWN (missing value)
ElementsAutoAnalyzer Application (/Applications/Adobe Elements 10 Organizer.app/Contents/ElementsAutoAnalyzer.app)
Dropbox Application (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
NIHardwareAgent Application Caché (/Library/Application Support/Native Instruments/Hardware/NIHardwareAgent.app)
AdobeResourceSynchronizer Application Caché (/Applications/Adobe Acrobat DC/Adobe Acrobat.app/Contents/Helpers/AdobeResourceSynchronizer.app)
HP Scheduler Application (/Library/Application Support/Hewlett-Packard/Software Update/HP Scheduler.app)
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Time Machine : ℹ️
Ignorer les fichiers du système : NON
Sauvegarde automatique : OUI
Disques sauvegardés :
New Macintosh HD - SSD 2014 : Taille de disque : 255.72 Go Disque utilisé : 189.42 Go
Destinations :
MACintouch [Local]
Taille totale : 499.76 Go
Nombre de sauvegardes total : 29
Sauvegardes la plus agée : 2013-11-18 17:57:27 +0000
Dernière sauvegarde : 2015-04-16 16:37:30 +0000
Taille de la disque de sauvegarde : Trop petit
Taille de sauvegarde 499.76 Go > (Disque utilisé 189.42 Go X 3)
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9% WindowServer
1% mdworker
0% mds
0% fontd
0% AdobeCrashDaemon
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490 Mo firefox
120 Mo com.apple.IconServicesAgent
103 Mo mds_stores
94 Mo Creative Cloud
69 Mo ocspd
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4.58 Go RAM Disponible
1.88 Go RAM Active
1.11 Go RAM Inactive
753 Mo RAM Résidente
758 Mo Pages entrants
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Apr 18, 2015, 01:13:39 PM Examen de soi - succès
Apr 17, 2015, 06:22:44 PM /Users/[expurgé]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Empire Total War_2015-04-17-182244_[expurgé].crash
Apr 6, 2015, 02:03:41 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2015-04-06-140341_[expurgé].panic [Click for details]Hi r.w.p & welcome to the forums...
Some or all of the following may be necessary - try in this order:
1. Try resetting your PRAM/NVRAM ( http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US ). If everything isn't fixed, then continue to follow the steps here including resetting your SMC ( http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1411 ) if necessary.
2. Use Font Book to eliminate all bad and duplicate fonts.
3. Reinstall (or install for the first time) the .6.1 and .6.2 updates by downloading and installing the combo updater ( http://support.apple.com/kb/DL959 ).
4. Reinstall 10.6 using your Snow Leopard install DVD by installing Snow over Snow using the upgrade method. Test your system after returning to 10.6. If is good there, then you may not want to re-install the.6.1 & .6.2 updates - if you do, then use the combo updater again ( http://support.apple.com/kb/DL959 ).
Still no joy, take it to an Apple Store and ask staff there for assistance. -
Can I run my MacBook Pro Late 2008 without battery forever? Is it bad in long term or anything? Does it make the system less stable?
My battery got swollen (and I unfortunately noticed it very late and might have be running with it for months, which potentially explains all the crashes everyday and the trackpad not working anymore, the Apple test also says I have a bar of ram broken...) and I had to remove it because the back pannel did not close anymore... Can I still use my MBP normally forever that way? I was planning on buying a new mac anyway but maybe waiting for the next iMac upgrade in the year... Should I wait?Other than the system shutting down instantly if you have a power outage, whcih could corrupt the OS. Nothing else bad will happen.
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Macbook Pro Late 2008 Boot Issue
Hello All!
So I have an issue i would like to throw into the ring and see if I get any responses I have not thought of yet. Let me give you a quick backstory to my recent macbook adventures.... I will start with a quick prelude story.
Chapter One:
Purchased a used Macbook Pro, Late 2008 2.53ghz, 4gb DDR3 ram with no charger off ebay. And yes, I should know better. But honestly, it only had a cracked screen but still worked perfectly connected to an external monitor and i could not pass on the price of it.
Chapter Two:
After recieving my purchase, I determined that it was just a cracked cover over the LCD screen which is easily replaced, but the backlight was out on the LCD. So i ordered a new LCD. The new LCD did not fix my issue, which then pointed me to a problem on the motherboard. I then sent it out and had it repaired.
Chapter Three:
Upon recieving my newly repaired macbook, I installed a new SSD drive, battery and replaced the screen cover for the newly installed LCD. It looks Fantastic if I do say so myself! I then proceded to install lion and I have a perfect running Macbook Pro for less than 700 bucks after all was said and done.
Chapter Four:
Now, at this point you should know why I bought it... I use it for djing. That is it. There is nothing else on this. No apps, programs, or scripts. It has an updated lion OS on it and my serato itch Djing software. There isnt even any music on it as i store that on an external 3T WD elements drive. (I only installed an 80gb SSD for the OS system). Unfortunately i have had some instances where the Mac Pro has just shut down completely while im spinning! Not good for business!
Chapter Five:
Over the course of the last year I have noticed some things happening. Longer than normal boot times (especially since it has an SSD in it this seems wierd to me) and crashing of the Itch software while trying to analyze music or just not closing itch at all when im done playing a show and having to press and hold the power button to turn off the mac. Now for the kicker... Unbeknowst to me, apparently you cant use a 65W charger on a macbook that requires an 85W charger, this i just recently learned. The charger i was using was a 65W from a white 13 inch macbook 2006. I just recently aquired the 85W charger.
This brings us to the present.....
Here is the issue. I was analyzing my music files using itch, when suddenly & randomly one of the 2 analyzing indicators would just stop analyzing the track it was on... This leaves only one analyzer bar going and the other just stuck where it is (16000 songs will take awhile with only one analyzer going). If i stop analyzing and restart it, it picks up where it left off and continues for a bit and stops again, but its never the same track or same length of time before it stops analyzing. Now I have tried this with both Lion and Snow Leopard (the white macbook 2006 has snow) and it appears to happen with either OS.
So I decided to install Snow on my Mac Pro 2008. For some reason, and I dont know why, it would not let me install snow to the partion I made on the drive. The disc would just keep rebooting the Mac pro over and over again. I know for a fact that snow works because I took the drive out of the white Macbook 2006 and put it into the Mac Pro 2008. Booted right up.
So, I have re-installed itch on lion... Still has the same problem with lion.
I have restored a copy of snow to the partioned hard drive of my Mac Pro 2008 from my white macbook 2006. This seems to be the only way to do this if i want snow on my Mac Pro 2008 since it won't boot Snow from disc or USB. Installed a new copy of itch, still the same problem.
So my question is this.... Is it hardware or software?
And to stop those from putting the obvious, I have done all the PVRAM, SMC etc resets!! I am not some 12yr old trying to make daddys computer work again because i used it like i shouldn't have. Im looking for something besides the obvious!
Sorry, but I felt the entire story needed to be told in order to get the responses I'm looking for....
And thanks for taking the time to read about my issues! Hopefully someone can point me in the direction I need to go to get this to stop doing what it's doing. I will be more than happy to answer any and all questions concerning this issue as best I can.The heat generated may be a function of what you are doing on the Internet. Watching videos will stress the CPU/GPU and create heat and result in faster fan speeds.
First try a SMC and PRAM resets:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14222?viewlocale=en_US
If there is no change, post back.
Ciao -
Random hard freezing issues, Windows 8 64-bit on Macbook Pro (Late 2008)
Hi,
I recently upgraded to OS X 10.8.3 and got a hold on copy of Windows 8 64-bit. As I'm running on my old trustworthy 15 inch Macbook Pro (Late 2008), my hardware is officially unsupported. Over the years I've had XP, Vista, Win7 32-bit and 64-bit running running on the same machine, and thought I'd give Win8 a chance.
To be able to install Win8 on my unsupported hardware, I tricked the Bootcamp assistant that I was going to install Win7, and after the reboot and start of the Win7 installation, I exited the installer, rebooted, switched DVD to Win8 and did the installation from there. So far so good. For installing the Bootcamp drivers, I followed the instructions in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4894920?tstart=90.
Now, the machine runs just fine with Windows 8, and I've installed some basic third party applications (Firefox, Spotify, Steam). However, I get completely random hard freezes on the machine (sound looping, no other activity whatsoever) during normal use. These can occur 20 minutes after start, or 3-4 hours in. The freezing behavior is very much similar to how my model can behave under overheating conditions (which mostly have occured in past Windows versions while gaming), however overheating doesn't seem to be the issue here (based on simple palpation ).
Have anyone experienced a similar problem, or know something about it? My current idea is that some weird things are going on with the Bootcamp drivers, so unless anyone comes up with a suggestion I might try doing a rollback to the point before I installed the drivers to see what I can make of it.
Thanks!Had a few similar short system freezes, after installing Windows 8 x64 on 13” MacBook Pro Mid-2010 with BootCamp 5.0.5033.
There is a suggestion that DisableDynamicTick may fix the problem: https://discussions.apple.com/message/21565295#21565295. There were similar topics at Microsoft forums: 1, 2, 3. It was said “that this will likely reduce system battery life, so it should be undone when you update your Windows build or if it doesn't resolve your issue”, and that “this problem is resolved in the release versions of Windows 8”.
Another possibility is that there is indeed a buggy driver, within BootCamp 5.0.5033, or a 3rd party, like a wireless network driver in the following case http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/system-fr eeze-randomly-after-installing-windows-8/49488183-26cf-4389-af21-a85dc366c99a?pa ge=2#LastReply.
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Internal HD upgrade or external HD for my Macbook Pro (Late 2008)
Hello,
I am finding the 250gb internal hard drive not enough and want to upgrade to a 500gb/1tb hard drive for my macbook pro (late 2008 edition).
What I am wondering is whether to change the internal hard drive OR buy the fastest possible external hard drive for my mac which I believe is one that works with firewire 800 as my late 2008 macbook pro does not come with USB 3.0.
The external hard drive I have found is £110 and my macbook would be using the Firewire 800 connection:
LaCie Rugged Triple 301984 1TB USB 3.0 and Firewire 800 5400 rpm Portable Hard Disk Drive
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rugged-Triple-301984-Firewire-Portable/dp/B005C2BNJI
I dont necessarily need the portability of a external hard drive. I work with large files (photoshop, illustrator files mainly) and would would be concerned that I would not be able to work directly on the hard drive for this type of work so an internal hard drive may be better/
Can anyone suggest a good, fast, cheap, popular internal hard drive compatible with my computer and whether you would suggest changing the internal HD or buying an external.
I am running Mavericks and the only other change I have made is by upgrading my RAM from 4gb to 8gb. Thanks so much for your help
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP51.007E.B06
SMC Version (system): 1.33f8
Serial Number (system): W8******1G0
Hardware UUID: *****
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
<Edited By Host>For both convenience and speed, I'd recommend replacing the internal hard drive. Your MacBook Pro can handle nearly any internal SATA 2.5" HD on the market, including 7200rpm models. For what it's worth, I'd recommend a Western Digital Black WD7500BPKX or similar or Hitachi HGST 7K1000 although in my experience Hitachi drives run hot and that's the reason I don't use them as internal drives.
FW800 is fine, but then you have an external hard drive to lug around plus the connection is considerably slower than the internal SATA connection used by the internal hard drive.
Note that you will have to either 1) clone your existing drive to the new drive or 2) completely reinstall OSX and all your apps from scratch to the new drive when you replace the internal drive. If it were me, I'd take the opportunity to reinstall everything from scratch.
btw, I have done this myself on a number of 2008/2009 MacBook Pros and it's not hard at all. iFixit has tutorials on how to do this. (Here is a link to the one that I believe is your model. -
Macbook Pro late 2008 with Mavericks gets Grey screen of death.
Hey guys..
When Mavericks was released, I updated my old Macbook Pro (late 2008) 2.8ghz on work, and since then I have had a couple of Grey Screen of Deaths.
I had none of those before Mavericks, so I guess thats the source of the problem.
I've been trying to figure out what might cause it, from the crash log below, but I can't seem to figure anything from it, so I was hoping you guys could help me?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be a kernel panic, caused by some PowerManagement from kernel_task. But how do one fix that?
Anonymous UUID: E9D5B1C8-5DAD-BA79-D217-03BABC2E9B4C
Wed Oct 30 12:06:40 2013
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff8011cdc19e): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f93be996c, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0xffffef7f93c0f9b8, CR3: 0x0000000014a0a000, CR4: 0x0000000000000660
RAX: 0x0ffffffb97da0000, RBX: 0xffffef7f93c0f9b0, RCX: 0x0000000000000001, RDX: 0x000000468263fc7f
RSP: 0xffffff80f3a93d80, RBP: 0xffffff80f3a93e70, RSI: 0x0000006682634051, RDI: 0xffffff80f3afd148
R8: 0x00000000e0000000, R9: 0x0000000000000005, R10: 0x000000000000081e, R11: 0xffffff8012289ce8
R12: 0xffffff8024296800, R13: 0x0000000000000005, R14: 0xffffff80f3afd148, R15: 0xffffff7f93c0de20
RFL: 0x0000000000010006, RIP: 0xffffff7f93be996c, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0xffffef7f93c0f9b8, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Fault CPU: 0x1
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80f3a93a10 : 0xffffff8011c22f69
0xffffff80f3a93a90 : 0xffffff8011cdc19e
0xffffff80f3a93c60 : 0xffffff8011cf3606
0xffffff80f3a93c80 : 0xffffff7f93be996c
0xffffff80f3a93e70 : 0xffffff7f93be8b89
0xffffff80f3a93f30 : 0xffffff8011cdda5c
0xffffff80f3a93f50 : 0xffffff8011c3757a
0xffffff80f3a93f90 : 0xffffff8011c378c8
0xffffff80f3a93fb0 : 0xffffff8011cd6aa7
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(216.0)[A6EE4D7B-228E-3A3C-95BA-10 ED6F331236]@0xffffff7f93be6000->0xffffff7f93c10fff
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
13A603
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 1D9369E3-D0A5-31B6-8D16-BFFBBB390393
Kernel slide: 0x0000000011a00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8011c00000
System model name: MacBookPro5,1 (Mac-F42D86C8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 19122757284543
last loaded kext at 18516227224656: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBAudio 2.9.3f17 (addr 0xffffff7f94013000, size 303104)
last unloaded kext at 18583595087255: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 3.6.0 (addr 0xffffff7f93fea000, size 69632)
loaded kexts:
com.cisco.kext.acsock 1.1.0
com.apple.nke.rvi 2.0.0
com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 2.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.14.11
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.2.0f6
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 124
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.5.2fc2
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.5.2fc2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.4d1
com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.4.12
com.apple.GeForceTesla 8.1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.13
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.1.12
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.2.0f6
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHWAccess 1
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.7.0
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.4d1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 240.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 240.2
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache 35
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 325.7
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 3.6.0
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.4.0
com.apple.nvenet 2.0.21
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 650.4.4
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.9.9
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 700.20.22
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.9.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 650.4.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 650.4.1
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 161.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 216.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 153
com.apple.security.quarantine 3
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 216.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBAudio 2.9.3f17
com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.4.12
com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.7
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.5.2fc2
com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.5.2fc2
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.5.2fc2
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.4.12
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.12d1
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4
com.apple.nvidia.classic.NVDANV50HalTesla 8.1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.11d1
com.apple.nvidia.classic.NVDAResmanTesla 8.1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.2.0f6
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.9.4fc11
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.14
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 91
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.2.0f6
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.5.1d27
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.6
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.6
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.6d1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 240.6
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 650.4.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 650.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 650.4.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 3.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.7
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 2.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 650.4.4
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 600.34
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.2
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 650.4.4
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.0
com.apple.driver.NVSMU 2.2.9
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 2.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.security.sandbox 278.10
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 7
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 2
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 371.1
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.9
com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily 21
com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore 28.30
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.8
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
com.apple.kec.pthread 1
com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
Model: MacBookPro5,1, BootROM MBP51.007E.B06, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.8 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.33f8
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0198, 0x393930353432382D3035312E4130304C4620
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0198, 0x393930353432382D3035312E4130304C4620
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.22)
Bluetooth: Version 4.2.0f6 12982, 3 services, 15 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS723232L9SA62, 320.07 GB
Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-868
USB Device: Built-in iSight
USB Device: Logitech USB Headset
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
USB Device: IR Receiver
Thunderbolt Bus:I am having similair issues : MBP 4.1 2008
It does not want to reboot at all .
Stops with the grey screen .Spinning wheel / gear stops spinning and Mac reboots automaticly to.... get stuck again .
Ive tried the recovery : No automatic reboot But same screen : ( grey , stuck stopped spinning wheel) some how it enters Disk Utility because I can trigger the voice that ask for the language etc. (I left it there overnight without result ) I dont see DU on screen ( tried second monitor : No luck )
Did a hardware test : No issues
Did single user logon : fsck : No problems with the drive ( after 2 runs ) ( 1st runs : changes were made )
Did Logon Verbose status : Initial messages : shutdown reasons : code 128 ... now followed by code 3
Tried to reinstall the original OSX ( 2008 ) No luck : grey screen changes to darker screen coming in from the top asking to reboot the system .
1st real bad signal was : When donwloading Maverick ( again ) to create a bootable USB the screen started flickering ( this started when pressing the download button ??? - I had to reboot the mac to stop
2 days later :
Last Live activity with this mac was : Trying to create maverick Bootable USB using diskmaker X ) During this activty the mac died on me .
I have a full time machine backup : so no worries about data...I hope )
This mac is one of the lucky ones with the bad NVDIA 8600m gt cards ... after upgrarding in march 2013 to Lion ..it crashed on me with the black screen of death ...Since apple stopped the guarantee I baked it in the oven at 200 c for 7 minutes . For the last months it was working Fine . ( Hardware check shows no issues - and upon reboot it chimes happy ..)
What could be my next options ? ( Obvious buying a new one ... This is allready launched as an idea . I need more creative thoughts :-) -
MacBook Pro Late-2008 Battery Can't Keep a Charge.
I understand I bought my MacBook Pro Late-2008 just before they upgraded the MacBook batteries; it's never held a good charge, so I've had to keep it plugged in. Lately I've been finding myself needing it when outlets might not be readily available.
After I remove the power cord, it doesn't stay charged for more than 3 minutes, 30 seconds (I've timed it more than once). Even with its age, this seems like a significant problem with the battery.
I'm really not sure it's worth it to spend $130 on a replacement battery, and I'm not in a position to simply get a new MacBook.
Are those third-party batteries actually legit? Is there a chance that an Apple Store might be able to take care of it? I'm well past the life of my Apple Care, obviously, but three minutes for the battery?
What is my best option? Or just suck it up and deal with having to find an outlet wherever I go?
Thanks.There are many third party batteries that are at best suspect. I have seen on Amazon what appear to be legitimate OEM Apple batteries which I suspect are graymarket products. You may try that at your own risk. If you purchase from Apple. you will know what you will be getting and with a warranty.
Ciao.
OWC has what appears to be a battery that will fit your MBP. They are a reputable vendor for Mac compatible products,
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/BAP15MBU54RS/
Message was edited by: OGELTHORPE -
MacBook Pro (Late 2008) won't start up
Since December 2012, my MacBook Pro (late 2008) refuses start up. After trying many, many things (from online forums - nothing worked), the solution I found by hit and miss is to heat up the back of the laptop in front of my fireplace (or with a hair dryer), to remove the battery, to wait a few seconds and then to put it back in; after doing this, it turns on without a fuss and remains in perfect running condition until I turn it off again. I now leave it on 24/7 when at home, and I don't dare taking it away with me again... Seems to me a contact got loose and the heat expands it just enough to make it work again. Manufacturing problem?
Has anybody else got the same or a similar problem? I hope to fix this without going to an Apple store if possible, as it's not under warranty any more...
By the way, I have since replaced the battery and the hard disk, but that particular problem remains; I'm running OS X 10.8.2.It coule be one of two things:
1) Your hard drive has become corrupted, and you'll have to reinstall the OS and cut your losses.
2) Your logic board is fried. I seriously hope that this isn't the problem, but if it is, then it's time for a new mac.
My macbook pro was stuck on a bootup loop, and I finally had to reinstall the OS. This fixed my problem. On the other hand, I had this same problem on my iMac, and an OS reinstall didn't do anything.
Before making any judgements, take it to the genius bar and get some expert advice. -
MacBook Pro Late 2008 (Unibody) doesn't boot
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my good old MacBook Pro Late 2008 running Mountain Lion won't boot anymore. The sleep light does not light on, the green battery status indicator light is showing that the battery is full. I had this problem two or three times, and usually my Macbook comes magically back to life after one or two days.
At the Apple store they said I'd have to make a SMC reset, and when they did it in the store, it worked. But it doesn't work for me (and I am sure I am doing the same thing, so maybe the Apple guy was just lucky – or is there another special trick?). What could be the solution to my problem?
Unfortunately, I can't really tell the exact specifications, but it is the standard model, and I didn't change anything since. I just had the problem that it was getting really hot like half a year ago, but then I cleaned the fans and since then it was running rather fine (just sometimes froze).
Any help greatly appreciated!
JulianI've got the same, or almost the same problem on a MBP 2008 (late).
MBP 15.4/2.53/2X2GB/320/SD/512VRAM upgraded to 8 GB 1067 DDR3 (OWC memory)
In my case the computer works fine when I'm able to get it on. If it is turned off and the MagSafe charger disconnected then left that way for a few hours, and the MagSafe is re-connected, let it charge for a bit, it can often be turned on via the power button. HOWEVER, .....
If it is left OFF overnight (Apple > Shut Down .... ), and the backlit keyboard goes dark, then a little pause before closing the lid, and left overnight, it will usually not be able to be turned on. The battery is in reasonably good condition (~+3500 mAh) and the newer battery (~ guess +5000 or more mAh) it doesn't do any better, and it won't turn on. Cycle count 183.
Take the battery out, (disconnect the MagSafe first! Never have the MagSafe charging without a batter in the computer) wait half a minute, reinstall battery (I like the 5,1 because the back section can be easily removed to access the battery and the hard drive), attach the MagSafe charger then wait a bit (few minutes), and the computer can often be turned on the first time. If not the first time then repeat the process. Tried hitting the Power button with the battery off but that doesn't seem to change anything.
Erased the HD (Hard Drive) and reinstalled Yosemite, have Fire Vault turned off, did a Utilities (Cmd + r ) check of the hardware (no problems), also did a few other tests - no problems. PRAM reset. Investigated BONJOUR - haven't gone into the Terminal yet. Would be nice to disable Bonjour without disabling DNS. https://www.apple.com/support/bonjour/ and http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/151485/how-do-i-disable-bonjour-visibil ity-after-yosemite-install and http://forums.obdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6106
The Genius Bar tested it and couldn't find a problem. Suggested the Logic Board be replaced and that i$ expen$ive! I've investigated having the Logic Board repaired and that would cost around $150 + shipping. Won't do the oven trick. Other problem sources I've come across is the graphics chip (mainly on the 2008 (early) MBPs.
Since erasing and reinstalling OS X Yosemite the computer really screams but I've started to reinstall some of the applications (FCPX & Motion), Documents, and Movie files. Still screams though! Nothing like a real cleaning of the hard drive. Didn't do a Time Capsule-type backup because I wanted to minimize "junk". The CanoScan LiDE 90 scanner won't work because Canon won't come up with a driver to work with Yosemite. Won't buy a Canon scanner again and didn't want to buy it to begin with due to a previous Canon problem. Bought a new Canon camcorder, $1,600 + tax, back when they had mini-tapes, it at the Maxwell tape but just outside the warranty period and wanted something around $500 to fix it. Turned out that was a typical problem.
Really running out of options and ideas at this point. Hate to send it off to repair the Logic Board. Still looking for a software or setting fix.
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