With Logic 8 Is it Possible To....?

Play into it live on an audio track using my external synth's and "correct" my timing. Im not the "best" player be ANY stretch of the imagination but i would LOVE to play into Logic live and some how "fix" the audio so its on time with all the other tracks. I guess what im looking for is to somehow "quantize" the audio.

Hi,
Of course it is. You could try the 'Enhance Timing' plugin for starters. Alternatively, if your synth has MIDI capabilities, you could record the MIDI rather than the audio output. Then you'll have access to the more traditional MIDI quantize features. When you're ready you can record the audio into the arrangement.
Cheers,
Bryan.

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Logic Express 9 running with Tascam US-122 - possible?

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I've been scouring support forums and the Logic user manual all day and unfortunately cannot seem to find an answer to this:
Is it at all possible to run Logic Express 9 with the Tascam US-122?
I've just converted from PC to Mac in the last couple of weeks: all of my software and drivers are all up-to-date so that should not be an issue. Obviously that means that I've previously been using my Tascam with Cubase on the PC, and I was really hoping it would cope with Logic too. The problem is that Logic does recognize the Tascam but when it comes to recording, I can't get it to work. Apparently it's something to do with the sample rate?
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It sounds like you have the same setup as us.
I (oops, wife) has a brand new iMac, a Tascam US-122L and a Yamaha KX8 controller. She started with GarageBand, then bought Logic Express 9 and just yesterday we ordered the upgrade to Logic Studio.
Like any new computer setup of course nothing worked right away.
She plugs her guitar into the Tascam but it didn't work until we changed to Input 2 in Logic (or was it GarageBand, sorry I am getting them confused).
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as asher pointed out, making a full conductors score is perfectly possible with logic, but there are issues, little problems, limitations and work arounds that have to be known about to make it a smooth experience.
also, as asher again pointed out, there are many things that are fast on logic than in other dedicated notators, and in general composing the raw material is easier faster and more flexible than a dedicated notator. at least over on this side of the pond, working in logic and exporting to sibelius for the final result is very standard way of operating. now, there is a PDF to XML application which some of us here (not me though - not tried it) have had great success with. i think william levine who does a lot of orchestrating in logic and recommends it.
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http://www.rohanstevenson.com/
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http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/
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The Problems With Logic (as I see them) - PART TWO!

Hello again,
It seems to be a tradition now that as I compose on a track, I keep a text editor open so that I can jot down all the annoyances and problems that I encounter during my creative process... Anyone who missed the previous edition of this topic, please visit PART ONE, here:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3605456#3605456
That said, here I give you "The Problems With Logic Part II":
1. Logic should clear the playback buffer everytime you play. Quite often you start playing and there is trailing reverb/note events from various audio instruments and plug-ins.
2. The sample edtor "save selection as" has no memory of where you previously were in the file browser.
3. If you double click on a wave form, the sample editor opens up with the wave form you double clicked on... Great.. But now, if you go and double click on another wave form somewhere, it just takes you back to the sample editor with the same previous wave form selected (not great). This is incredibly annoying if you are attempting to save out certain edits-- Quite often you will end up saving 5 or 6 of the same exact waveform, thinking you were saving each individual one. GRR!
4. Key commands.. if you try to assign a key command to something that is already used by another feature, you are presented with a window warning you that it already exists.. If you click cancel, then you can no longer enter any keys in the key field.. You are forced to close the key commands preferences window and start over.
5. Key command window: You should be able to search by command.. For example, if I want to find out what "o" is assigned to, I should be able to search by O-- Further, you should be able to sort the key commands by clicking the column titles "key", "command" -- or "midi"... After all, we can sort by name, date, size, etc in the finder by clicking on these column titles.
6. Tempo Tap feature-- I am quite confused by this. There should be a simple way to tap and define a tempo. When ever i try to do this, the tempo is only temporarily changed until I stop playing, and most of the time I get error alerts about trying to sync audio and midi (mind you, when there are absolutely no parts in the entire arrange window). The manual states that with "tempo recording" checked on the tempo interpreter window, that the taps will record tempo changes, but this does not work. I tried doing this, tapping the key command I defined to tempo tap (ctrl-shift-t), and I was tapping at various speeds-- many taps fast.. and Logic recorded tempos of 99-101bpm.. I was tapping atleast around 175-180bpm. I then tried tapping slowing, and Logic recorded tempos of 99-101 again... so this feature obviously is full of bugs.
7. When loading songs, as soon as various plugins such as Kontakt, exs24 begin loading samples, it brings logic to the front. If you're working in the background in other applications while waiting for your songs to load, you are rudely interrupted from what you're doing (such as, selecting from a menu, typing a document, etc) only to be forced to watch a status bar fill up.. and then all key presses at that point become error beeps.
8. Logic's sample memory easily becomes messed up and crazy. Quite often when using AU instruments such as BFD, Culture, and even Synthogy's Ivory. I will switch to that particular track to play on my keyboard, and each sample will be full of horrible pops and clicks-- the kind that destroy speakers. Other times, in a sample of a string for instance, all of a sudden after one second will be a pop and then the sample will be playing at a completely different pitch... I have to remove the AU instrument and reload it at this point.. This happens quite often. Logic should offer a 'buffer reset' so that you can just flash plugins but they reload whatever preset they were set to.
9. Volume faders resolution are lame! There is no reason why you shouldnt be able to access +1.0, +1.1, +1.2, +1.3, +1.4, +1.5, +1.6, +1.7, +1.8, +1.9... Further the display is only so wide and you can't even read the decimal values for numbers -10 and lower. They just appear as 10.
10. When a movie is open, and you are viewing the video output via FIREWIRE, there is a mini-floating window which contains the smpte, position, and movie start information-- However you cannot modify any of these values. You have to switch video output back to "WINDOW" to change the start position of the movie. This is obviously a bug.
11. Changing the movie's start time is very user unfriendly. There should be a simple way to specify to start at a moment of time relative to SMPTE-- So you can just say "+9:15" for example, and it would take you in 9 minutes and 15 seconds, rather than how it is now where you have to think backwards from SMPTE code and subtract.
12. You cannot view video as a window AND output to firewire. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to do this. For example, if I wanted to output my video to a monitor in a vocal booth-- I can do this.. but I can't see what the vocalist is seeing on my own screen! This is just nonsense. You should be able to output to the screen (desktop mode or floating window) as well as an external firewire device.
13. Saving a song with a movie open should mean that when you load that song, the movie should be up and exactly as it was prior to saving. As it is now you have to select "open movie again".
14. There is still definitely a bug in track automation-- this was really bad back in version 4, but there is still something not quite right here where starting playback will not always guarantee that the automation data is being read.. And in my experiences it results in volumes being incorrect until you stop and play again, and in some cases it will not work at all unless you plot some automation points. This is an intermittent issue-- but quite often activated by placing an audio region from the audio window on a track (SEE VIDEO).
WATCH VIDEO OF THIS BUG:
http://collinatorstudios.com/www/logicbugs/logicautomationbug.mov
15. In the arrange window, sometimes when zoomed in tightly, all parts on a track are selected, and you think that only the part that you are looking at is selected.. you move this part, and now all of your parts are off. Logic should have some kind of visual aid to let you know when ever you are moving multiple selections... Something like, the parts you are moving will highlight a dfferent color or something... This is a similar problem I have with the loop area of the screen.. You can accidentally turn it on when in the matrix window, and have no idea unless you look down at the transport, but with me for example, my transport is at the very bottom of the screen and I am not looking there most of the time.
16. Automation data, when two points are semi-close to each other, suddenly the value of the data is no longer shown.. I can understand that when you are zoomed out, and there is simply no space for this to visually appear, that's appropriate. But as it is now, it doesn't display this information when there is plenty of space for it to be visible.
17. Logic should let you set audio track inputs to the various outputs (1-2, 3-4, etc) and buses.
18. clicking on a track selects ALL parts. This is so so so annoying. How many times have I been editing voice over, and selecting a track, thinking I am shrinking the length of a part, and to find that ALL parts have been shrunk.. SO ANNOYING!!!! This needs to not happen, and there should be a simple way to right-click a track and it will have an option "select all regions"... also, when you click on a track and all parts are selected, if you horizontally zoom, logic zooms into the beginning of the track, rather than the song locator. I don't know what the LOGIC behind this is, but it's not very helpful, it actually is very frustrating.. Zooming should always move towards the song locator position.
19. EXS 24 should have a "reverse/backwards" button so that samples played are backwards.
20. Logic should offer a way to globally increase or decrease a specific automation type (especially volume) globally for all tracks... So if you have detailed crescendos that start at -3.8 and end at +1.6, you can add 3db to this and it will now be at 0.8 and end at 4.6.
21. If you have multiple tracks of the same track (such as three Audio track #1's)-- say you are recording guitar parts, and just copying the track and muting the previous track as a method of maintaining multiple takes for later auditioning. If you draw automation volume data on this track (it appears on all 3 tracks), and then if you delete the audio from one of the muted tracks and tell logic to KEEP it, suddenly all automation data is gone. GRR!!!
22. Several times I have opened Kontakt, and attempted to load an instrument while outputting a movie via firewire video to my monitor. As soon as I try to load the instrument, the firewire video output on my monitor goes crazy, and then comes back on.. Logic then crashes. This has happened 3 times randomly...
23. UNDO does not work on every function. for example, if you change an output to bus 1 instead of 1-2, you cannot undo this. Undo should undo whatever the last command was, no matter what it was. This is what the word LOGICal is supposed to represent.
24. Floating windows (as in plugin windows) should close with apple-w!!!
25. *BUG* If you are in a part that is say 10 measures long, zoom in horizontally 100% in the matrix window-- You then isolate one specific quarter note pitch in the middle of this measure, and have cycle turned on, looping over this one quarter note, if you are not looking at this note event/loop region when you hit play, the display will jump to the beginning of the part and never show you this note event as it loops. However if you have the note event on screen when you hit play, then it will behave properly. This makes it extremely difficult and frustrating to perform detailed hyper-draw work. (SEE VIDEO)
WATCH VIDEO OF THIS BUG:
http://collinatorstudios.com/www/logicbugs/logicloopbug.mov
26. *BUG* Host Automation is not accurate. I assigned Kontakt's tune knob to C#000, and If I place a dip, the knob begins to move way before the automation data is even present.... So basically what I was trying to do, can't even be accomplished because Logic screws everything up by pitching the instrument too early... Such a shame.. By the way, I previously mentioned the importance of being able to display part data in the arrange window as matrix data (horizontal lines) rather than score data. Someone argued what good this would do-- Well this is a perfect example, if I am attempting to affect a particular section of a note with automation, I can't possible visually see where this is because the length is not described by the current score representation. Having a horizontal representation would solve this problem... (SEE VIDEO)
WATCH VIDEO OF THIS BUG:
http://collinatorstudios.com/www/logicbugs/logicctrlchngbug.mov
27. There should be a way to convert stereo samples to mono in the sample editor.
28. When you view "as text" in the environmentt, you cannot drag an object to the arrange window-- Such as to create a bus track.. Now mind you I don't know why you can't just select "BUS" when editing a track in the arrange window in the first place, however there is no reason why 'view as text' should behave differently than when it's viewed as icons.
29. When you drag a bus from the environment to the arrange window, it replaces whatever track was there. It should ADD a track instead of replace-- atleast there should be a preference for how this behaves.
30. Occasionally when dragging a bus from the environment, there is some visual garbage in the track automation (see screenshot).
31. There should be a way to LOAD and SAVE selections in the arrange window. Quite often when editing audio from a countless number of parts/regions, it becomes painful when you have to select and move 100s of audio files. There should be a way that you can just select a ton of regions and save that selection, and reload it at anytime. There are a few 'select' tools/options under the edit window, however they are song specific-- not track specific. So they are completely usesless for what I need.
32. Logic should offer a feature to collect sysex data from midi devices so that patch names show up and can be selected via program change.
33. When no track or part is selected, and you vertically zoom in, Logic should zoom into the center most track.. It behaves very oddly and zooms in more towards the top. This becomes extremely annoying when dealing with a sequence involving 100 tracks, and a part is selected but you scroll far below where the part is.. When you begin to zoom in, it takes you towards the selected part, yet it's not displayed on the screen and you have no reference for what you are even looking at. The rule should be this: If the part is on the screen, zooming vertically will bring you to it. If it's off the screen, you will zoom into the center track of whatever is currently on the screen.
34. I mentioned this in a thread earlier... http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=752485&tstart=0
There is a bug when using the transform tool involving the 'position' variable. In my example, I was attempting to reverse the time placement of three chords, that occured in a part somewhere in the middle of my song. By selecting the measure start and end of this part, Logic was unable to select or operate with the transform tool (and I tried a variety of transform options). If I moved this part to the beginning of the song, then the transform tool would suddenly work. After some research, I found online someone had said "Position Time position of the event, referenced to the start of the MIDI Region (not of the song)."--- But if I still doubt this is true, because I then placed the part on a new track with no other data, and placed it in the middle of the sequence and in the transform tool under position I selected '1 1 1 1' to '5 5 5 5' as well i tried setting the position to 'all', and none of this worked. This obviously is a bug... If it's not then it's a very serious design flaw. The position should relate to measure numbers of a song, and nothing else.
WATCH VIDEO OF THIS BUG:
http://collinatorstudios.com/video/transform.mov
That is all for now...
For those who firmly agree with me and all of the points that I have brought up now and in the past, I encourage you to contact Peggie Louie, (the Logic HR department contact) at (408) 996-1010 and suggest that she hire me as a consultant to help eliminate Logic's many annoyances. I have tried to pursue this heavily in the past, but sadly I was completely ignored by her on all levels. Maybe you all can help make a difference?
Fighting the good fight,
Patrick J. Collins
http://collinatorstudios.com

11. Changing the movie's start time is very user
unfriendly. There should be a simple way to specify
to start at a moment of time relative to SMPTE-- So
you can just say "+9:15" for example, and it would
take you in 9 minutes and 15 seconds, rather than how
it is now where you have to think backwards from
SMPTE code and subtract.
For this one I'd suggest getting SMPTE calculator. Entering timecode numbers and having to add and subtract is not so difficult, and AFAIC part of a composer's gig. But what I would add, instead, is that it would be fantastic if Logic provided a timecode calculator (edit: even if it was in the form of a custom Logic widget).
13. Saving a song with a movie open should mean that
when you load that song, the movie should be up and
exactly as it was prior to saving. As it is now you
have to select "open movie again".
This doesn't always happen. I've struggled with this for a long time, and I don't know why sometimes the movie will load and not other times. I would also add here that Logic should show the file pathname to the movie. Somewhere...
18. clicking on a track selects ALL parts. This is
so so so annoying.
You can prevent this from happening if you have cycle turned on and set to a set of locators that "contain" the parts you might want to select en masse. I always work with cycle=on so this is not a problem.
21. If you have multiple tracks of the same track
(such as three Audio track #1's)-- say you are
recording guitar parts, and just copying the track
and muting the previous track as a method of
maintaining multiple takes for later auditioning. If
you draw automation volume data on this track (it
appears on all 3 tracks), and then if you delete the
audio from one of the muted tracks and tell logic to
KEEP it, suddenly all automation data is gone.
GRR!!!
Never had that happen. In my experience, telling Logic to keep the data always works.
23. UNDO does not work on every function. for
example, if you change an output to bus 1 instead of
1-2, you cannot undo this. Undo should undo whatever
the last command was, no matter what it was. This is
what the word LOGICal is supposed to represent.
Undo in Logic is highly problematic for other reasons. Here, I think there should be a specific Environment Undo, just like there's a separate undo for audio edits.
29. When you drag a bus from the environment to the
arrange window, it replaces whatever track was there.
It should ADD a track instead of replace-- atleast
there should be a preference for how this behaves.
Right. This is a matter of personal preference. But still there are other ways to get an object assigned to a track. The "thru tool", for instance. No dragging required.
32. Logic should offer a feature to collect sysex
data from midi devices so that patch names show up
and can be selected via program change.
My guess: considering how much sheer time it takes to write this kind of software, let alone debug it with every conceivable device, it's not likely this is going to happen.
That is all for now...
For those who firmly agree with me and all of the
points that I have brought up now and in the past, I
encourage you to contact Peggie Louie, (the Logic HR
department contact) at (408) 996-1010 and suggest
that she hire me as a consultant to help eliminate
Logic's many annoyances. I have tried to pursue this
heavily in the past, but sadly I was completely
ignored by her on all levels. Maybe you all can help
make a difference?
Wait in line buddy!
(LOL)
I must say, I'm very impressed with your list and attention to detail. And I feel your pain, trust me. But many of the things you've listed are feature requests and not bugs. And some of the behaviors you've described I have yet to run across. So this is typical with Logic, that it can be operated in so many diverse ways that no two people run it in the same way, nor would two people conceive the program's capabilities in the same way. But I digress...
I also think there's a certain amount of Logic convention that I don't think you've adopted yet, hence your wish for behaviors that don't yet exist.
I don't disagree with most of your feature requests, and I'm (quite unfortunately) able to say that I'm familiar with most of these bugs and about 9 dozen more. But again, it's important to distinguish between bug, feature request, time to RTFM, and errant behavior that's experienced by a very limited number of users.
There's no doubt that this program has its problems. In particular, your #1 re the playback buffer. And I'm glad you've brought many of the bugs into the light for people to read. Good work.

The best way to get help with logic

I was posting in a thread on support for logic which appears to have been deleted. anyway, what I was going to say I think is useful info for people, so I'm going to post it anyway. to the mods - it doesn't contain any speculation about policies or anything like that. just an explanation of my views on the best way to deal with issues people have with logic, which I think is a valuable contribution to this forum.
I think there's a need for perspective. when you buy an apple product you get 90 days of free phone support to get everything working nice and neat. you can call them whenever, and you could actually keep them on the phone all day if you wanted, making them explain to you how to copy a file, install microsoft office, or any number of little questions no matter how simple - what is that red button thingy in my window for?.. on top of that, you've got a 14 day dead on arrival period (or 10 days I can't remember) in which if your machine has any kind of hardware fault whatsoever it's exchanged for a totally new one, no questions asked. a lot of people complain that applecare is overpriced.. and if you think of it just as an extended warranty, then it is a little pricey. but if you are someone that could use a lot of phone support, then it's actually potentially a total bargain. the fact that 2 or more years after you bought a computer, you could still be calling them every single day, asking for any kind of advice on how to use anything on the machine, is quite something. many people on this forum have had problems when they made the mistake of upgrading to 10.4.9 without first creating a system clone or checking first with their 3rd party plug in vendors to make sure it was ok. so, with apple care, you could call them and keep a technician on the phone _all day_ talking you through step-by-step how to back up all of your user data, how to go through and preserve your preferences and any other specific settings you might not want to lose, and then how to rollback to an earlier OS version.. they'll hold your hand through the whole thing if you need them to.
as for applecare support for pro apps like logic, I'd be the first person to agree that it's not great for anyone except beginners and first time users. if you look at what it takes to get even the highest level of logic certification, it's all pretty basic stuff. and logic doesn't exist in a vacuum, there is an entire universe of 3rd party software and hardware, as well as studio culture and advanced user techniques that are going to be totally invisible to some poor phone support guy at apple that did a logic 101. but it's not hard to see that apple are trying to promote a different kind of support culture, it's up to you to decide whether you want to buy into it or not.
the idea is that they are able to provide basic setup support for new users, including troubleshooting. because it's a simpler level of support, at least they can do this well. so there's no reason why any new user with say a new imac and logic can't get up and running with the 90 days of phone support they get for free.
but the thing is, for extremely high end pro users it's a different matter altogether. pro use of logic within the context of say, a studio or a film composition scenario is a very different world. it's almost a nonsense to imagine that apple could even hire people capable of giving useful support for this end of the spectrum, over the phone. there are so many variables, and so many things that require a very experienced studio person or in-work composer to even begin to understand the setup, let alone troubleshoot it. and it's a constantly evolving world, you actually have to be working in it and aware of developments on 3rd party fronts as well as changes in hardware.. not to mention even changes in the culture of studio production and the changed expectations that come from that. there's no way some poor little guy sitting at a help desk at apple can even hope to be privy to that kind of knowledge. it's already good enough that they don't outsource their support staff to india, let alone go out to studios and hire the very people with the skills that should be staying in the studio! not answering phones for apple.
so, given this reality.. companies have two choices. they can either offer an email based support ticket system, which others do. but in my opinion.. this can just be frustrating and only a half-solution. sure you 'feel' like you are getting a response from the people that make the software and therefore must know it.. but it's not really the case due to what I said above. DAWs don't exist in a vacuum, and so much of what you need to understand to help people requires an intimate knowledge of the music industry in which they are working. you still won't get that from steinberg, even if they sort of answer your emails. the other problem is that this kind of system can mean sporadic answers, a lot of tail-chasing, and quite often you won't get an answer that helps you in the end anyway.
the other model is to foster a strong user support culture. some people react in the wrong way to this idea.. they just think it's a big brush off from the manufacturer, saying we don't care, go sort it out yourselves.. but this isn't true. apple has a classification for pro resellers called 'apple solutions expert - audio'. what this means is that these dealers are recognised as audio specialists and they can receive extra support and training from apple for this. but more importantly than this.. most of them are music stores, or pro gear dealerships that are also mac and logic dealers. they already employ people that have worked or do work in the music industry, and are constantly on top of all of this stuff. apple encourages these dealers to run workshops, and to provide expert sales advice in the very niche area that logic is in, which they can do far better than some generic apple store ever could. but most importantly, they are encouraged to offer their own expert after-sales support and whatever other value-adding expertise they can, to get sales. because margins in computer gear are so tight nowadays, discounting is not really a viable option for these dealers to guarantee getting musicians to buy computers and logic setups from them. the only companies that can entice people with a lower price a big online wholesalers or big chain stores. so the best idea for these niche expert stores to get sales is to offer you their own experts to help with configuration, ongoing support and to generally make it a better idea that you bought your system from them rather than from some anonymous online store. I can see the wisdom of this.. it puts the support back out there on the ground where it's needed, and also where it can work best. apple could never hope to offer the same level of expertise in helping a film composer work through some issues with a specific interface or some highly specific issue they have with getting a task done. no big software manufacturer could do this anywhere near as well as people out there that have worked in studios or currently do work in studios. so in my opinion it's a far better model to foster this kind of support culture, along with training courses, books and training video support. also user forums like this one are possibly one of the most valuable ports of call anyone could ask for. apple couldn't replicate this with their own staff, even if they tried. and even if they made a system where some of the people close to logic development were able to answer emails, it would still be nowhere near as useful, as rapid or as capable of being up to speed with logic use out in the real world with 3rd pary gear, as any of these other methods are.
the only thing I think they could do better would be to publish a list of known bugs which are officially recognised. this would help everyone and put an end to a lot of wasted time and speculation on if something is a bug totally to do with logic, or if it's a specific issue raised by a particular configuration.
but really, in my view, a 3rd party support and training culture through a combination of specialist dealers, consultants that literally run a business setting up computers for pro-users and helping them keep it all working, online user-to-user forums and published materials really are the way forward.

In all honesty this is currently the 3rd "logicboard" (motherboard)
in my powerbook due to a design flaw regarding the 2nd memory slot....
Yep. Mine failed five weeks after I bought it. However, I bought it for work and couldn't afford being without it for four weeks while they fixed it, so I had to live with it. My serial number did not entitle me to a replacement either, post Applecare.
My firewire ports have burnt out from a third-party defective device (no hot-plugging involved)
My screen is blotchy (my PW serial number did not entitle me to a replacement).
My battery serial number did not entitle me to a replacement, and is not that good these days.
My guaranteed Powerbook-compatible RAM is actually not, causing RAM related problems, most notably these days meaning that as soon as I switch to battery power, the laptop crashes, so I can only use mains power. The company I bought it from stopped taking my calls and wouldn't replace it after they replaced it once, so I'm stuck with it. And of course, only one ram slot is working, so I can't even use my original stick in the first slot, which would shift the dodgy stuff away from the lower system area.
My power supply failed at the weak spot and caught fire. I managed to break apart the power supply and recable it so I didn't have to buy a new power supply, although the connection at the laptop end is loose (all the more fun that as soon as power is lost, the laptop crashes - see above). The power supply is held together with gaffa tape. Silver gaffer tape though, so it's still kind of 'Appley"...
My internal hard drive is dying - four or five times now it clicks and won't power up, causing the laptop to die.
One foot has fallen off (but glued back on).
The lid is warped.
The hinge is loosish.
The S-Video adaptor cable is intermittent.
But aside from all that, I have looked after it well, and I love it to death. Just as well, because it doesn't look like it will be that long...
But it still "just works". Apart from the battery power obviously. And the ram slot. And the ram. And the screen. And the hard drive. And the firewire ports. And the feet.
But everything apart from the main board, the screen, the case, the hard drive and the power supply works fine. So thats... er..
Hmm.

Noob needs help with Logic and Motu live setup.

Hello everyone,
I'm a noob / semi noob who could use some help with a live setup using 2 MOTU 896HD's and Logic on a Mac.
Here's the scenario:
I teach an outdoor marching percussion section (a drumline and a front ensemble of marimbas and vibes). We have an amazing setup of live sound to amplify and enhance the mallet percussion. There is a yamaha PA system with 2 subs and 2 mains which are routed through a rack unit that processes the overall PA balance. I'm pretty sure that the unit is supposed to avoid feedback and do an overall cross-over EQ of the sound. Other then that unit, we have 2 motu896hd units which are routed via fire-wire. I also have a coax cable routing the output of the secondary box to the input of the primary box (digital i/o which converts to ADAT in (i think?)..?
Here's the confusion:
There are more then 8 inputs being used from the ensemble itself, so I need the 16 available inputs to be available in Logic. I was lead to believe that the 2nd motu unit would have to be sent digitally to the 1st motu unit via coax digital i/o. Once in Logic, however, I cannot find the signal or any input at all past the 8th input (of the 1st unit).
Here's the goal:
All of my performers and inputs routed via firewire into a Mac Mini running OSX and Logic pro.
I want to be able to use MainStage and run different patches of effects / virt. instruments for a midi controller keyboard / etc.
I want to be able to EQ and balance the ensemble via Logic.
Here's another question:
How much latency will I be dealing with? Would a mac mini with 4gb of ram be able to handle this load? With percussion, I obviously want the sound as latency free as possible. I also, however, want the flexibility of sound enhancement / modification that comes with Logic and the motu896hd units.
Any help would be REALLY appreciated. I need the routing assistance along with some direction as to whether or not this will work for this type of application. I'm pretty certain it does, as I have spoken with some other teachers in similar venues and they have been doing similar things using mac mini's / logic / mainstage / etc.
Thanks in advance,
Chris

You'll definitely want to read the manual to make sure the 896HDs are connected together properly. ADAT is a little tricky, it's not just a matter of cabling them together. Go to motunation.com if you need more guidance on connecting multiple devices. Beyond that initial hookup, here are a couple of quick suggestions:
1. Open CueMix and see if both devices are reported there. If not, your connections aren't correct. Be sure to select 44.1kHz as your sample rate, otherwise you are reducing the number of additional channels. For instance at 88.2kHz you would get half the additional channels via ADAT.
2. You may need to create an aggregate device for the MacBook to recognize more than the first 896HD. Lots of help on this forum for how to do that. Again, first make sure you have the 896HDs connected together properly.
3. As for latency with Mainstage on the Mini, no way to know until you try it. Generally MOTU is fantastic for low latency work but Mainstage is a question mark for a lot of users right now. If the Mini can't cut the mustard, you have a great excuse to upgrade to a MacBook Pro.

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Jack, I'm in a similar boat here in Seattle. I just finished recording and mixing a few songs for demo'ing purposes and was pretty happy with what I achieved, but let's just say there was a lot of learning involved with the process.
In my limited experience, when you're working in a small untreated boxy room, you're fighting a different big problem at each stage of the recording process. When you're recording, you have to deal with comb filtering and flutter echoes (if you're recording mic'd acoustic instruments), and when mixing room modes and bass-response issues. There are various ways of addressing flutter echo, which boil down to creatively using dispersion and absorption techniques and playing around with mic placement. If you close-mic everything, you can get rid of some but not all flutter problems, but then you have to wrestle with having an exaggerated low end on all of your tracks, and you lose a lot of the open, airy quality of the instruments you're recording.
My "studio" has a couple of large bookcases along one wall, so I typically recorded the guitar in M-S stereo facing the bookcases (to get some dispersion) and set up a couple of homebrewed O-C 703 panels a few feet to each side to kill off the echoes. I also set a panel up on the wall behind me to further dampen things. It seemed to work pretty well. Mixing was a whole 'nother matter. No matter how much I A/B'd I did a bunch of mixes that wound up sounding truly awful when trialled on other systems. I went through a lot of CD-R's before finally winding up with something that wasn't actively cringeworthy (at least in terms of audio quality).
Since your setup is based on an MBP and a portable FW interface, one thing you might try is recording acoustic instruments in a larger room elsewhere in your apartment, or maybe at a friend's. Or maybe rent / borrow a church for a day.
Hope this helps,
Trent

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Dear Apple,
I'd like to know if it's possible to use spaces together with Logic. I tried to grab my mixer and drag it to another space but that didn't work.
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Kind Regards,
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Dear Apple,
Hi Patrick,here's a user to user forum ,
I'd like to know if it's possible to use spaces together with Logic. I tried to grab my mixer and drag it to another space but that didn't work.
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If there isn't one that fits that description, he'd like a simple keyboard with no screen that will plug into his PowerBook G4 to use with Logic and GarageBand.
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Thanks!!!

as a guitarist you can't go wrong with a line 6 KB37.
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The real thing that's makes it a no brainer though is zero-latency monitoring, it's the mutts nuts.
Plus excellent support, regular software downloads/upgrades and add on packs if you need them.
Mine never crashed or hung once, unlike the piece of cack M-Audio Ozone I had before.
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I think your question is legitimate because I've
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Hi,the reason you do not see mention of Intel in the Logic Pro manual...is because it was written before Intel chips were available on the Macs.
However, I've read that this is possible.
The latest version of the Node app,WORKS across Intel and PPC platforms.I use it every day,my main machine is an Intel MackBook CoreDuo 2gHz,and my slave is my G4 PPC iBook.
In your case, the problem would be the Mac Mini, because you need to
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JG99 wrote:
immo wrote:
JG99 wrote:
a bit unrelated i know. I'd wait to see what Apple announces later this month (rumored Touch/Tablet/giant iPhone). Something like that could potentially be an amazing controller for Logic and Final Cut.
JG
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A
Message was edited by: immo
Good point. I saw the price for Bamboo pen and touch. Very cheap. You got me thinking now.
Found a good price at Amazon...I'm thinking that probably it won't let me do what my imagination believes I could...Draw the automation with the pen for example...LOL but maybe it could be possible.... why I can draw in Photoshop or Adobe products and not in Logic hehe
I saw this on YouTube which got me thinking of finding a cheap touchscreen instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59BxTuHFio
JG
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A

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