Z77A-G45 System Instability

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 (BIOS Version E7752IMS V2.4 - I did not update the BIOS, it shipped this way)
CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge
PSU: CORSAIR HX850 850W
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
HDD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX  (SATA Port 2)
Optical: ASUS 24X DVD Burner DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS  (SATA Port 3)
GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Main Problem: System Instability.  I've managed to get the OS installed, and was able to eventually get VirusScan, Windows Updates, Chipset drivers, and other drivers installed.  However, this was a painful process, with several BSOD's, program crashes, and other lock-ups.  After doing so, the system is still unstable.
I also have an SSD I intend to use for acceleration via Intel Rapid Storage Technology (RST).  I plan to eventually plug this into SATA Port 1.  But I didn't get that far...
I am not OC'ing - using Standard Mode.  The only change I made in the BIOS was to switch the SATA Mode to "RAID Mode".  I did this prior to OS installation, per instructions.  And during OS install, I loaded the Intel SATA controller, per instructions.
OS install was unusually rocky.  First attempt failed.  Second attempt worked, but took longer than it should have.  After installation... crashing, instability, and BSODs.
Checked Memory a couple times, via Microsoft's memory checking tools.  Also reseated all DIMMs, to no avail.
After some amount of troubleshooting, I saw that my memory was being reported as: F3-12800CL9-4GBXL DIMMs.  I assume this is correct, and that the "Model" I bought (F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL) just describes the whole package of 4 DIMMs.  However, the one thing that is incorrect is that the timing is reported in the BIOS as 11-11-11-28.  The timing specs on my RAM are 9-9-9-24.  Overriding this in the BIOS to those numbers (for TCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS) did not make any difference.  Instability continued.  The memory speed and voltage seems to have been set properly to 1600/1.5V.
The other thing to note here is that I just bought the MSI Z77A-G45 to replace an ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3, which was experiencing the same (but less frequent) instability.  I've been using it for a couple months, and decided to try my luck with a different motherboard.  Only this one is worse.  The only components that were reused were the CPU and RAM (and optical drive, PSU, and Case, if that matters), and the only other thing in common was that I had both set up in RAID Mode.
Thoughts on how I should proceed?
Thanks in advance,
-Todd

Quote from: PiranhaTodd on 28-June-12, 15:07:06
Regarding the memory speed, I'm confused.  The maufacturer site (gskill.com/products.php?index=349) says:
CAS Latency   9-9-9-24-2N
Speed   DDR3-1600 (PC3 12800)
Also just to confirm, to change the timing, I assume I change this in the BIOS, under DRAM Timing Mode, switch to "Link" (from "Auto"), correct?  And when I do this, it enables the "Advanced DRAM Configuration" section.  If I double-click that, I can specify 9-9-9-24 (for tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS).  Former values were 11-11-11-28.  I assume I leave all other fields at "Auto"?  What is the "-2N" in the CAS Latency description on the GSkill site?
Here is the reason:
They are real DDR3-1600, but that means CAS = 11 @ 1.5V
Their XMP profile is buggy (in fact that's the DDR3-1333 profile).
For 1600MHz with CAS = 9, they need 1.60-1.65V

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