Zen Vision M quer

Got my Zen Vision M recently, just wondering I'm havin some weird lag problems..
e.g. If I start playing a music track, the play timer will lag for at least 0 seconds, before it counts properly.. i.e. jumping from 3, to 7 seconds etc.
Although this is no major problem to the music listening function.. :P, I am just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks for the help people.

Hi,
Thanks for the details. FYI you'll need to use Creative media source or Windows Media Player 0 or higher to transfer protected WMA file content (typically downloads from music services),
Regarding the click from the disk well there will be some noise but it should not be audible. Certainly any Zen V M unit on my desk here in a fairly quiet office environment does not create a noise that I can pick up on. So if there is an audible noise coming from the unit in a similar scenario you may be looking at a problem with the disk or read heads. It would certainly explain the lag you?re getting.
Anyway I?d suggest formatting the unit and then transferring on of your albums via Media Source (rather than drag and drop). Or Sync the player with your music library from Microsoft Media Player. This will eliminate the possibility of bad sectors on the disk itself or disk fragmentation, though as the unit is so new I can't see it being either of those but it'ss better to be thorough.
John

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    <font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#ff3300">?
    <font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#ff3300">Quick Tips (I see people asking the same questions)
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    Reboot. <
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    ?2- In the mean time, without noticing? Just like the nice lady?from the post said, everything seemed to have fallen into place!
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