09 Mac Pro with Apple 24 Cinema Display or Another Display?

Is the 24 inch Apple Cinema Display the best choice for Final Cut Studio 2 on a new Mac Pro or is there a better non-Apple choice?

I have Cinema Displays on my current setup and like them a lot, never had an issue with pixel response time. When it's time to replace them, I will not be buying the new Cinema Displays, but that's just because I don't like glossy monitors.
Consider also that FCP presents a low-res proxy image to better use resources for real time playback. To truly assess the picture quality an external pro monitor is required, or at the very least an excellent consumer TV.

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Dual Display Problem - Mac Pro / 23" Apple Cinema

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a hard time right now. Here's my situation. I'm using my Mac Pro with a primary HD Apple Cinema Display 23". I just recently stumbled upon a Sony HS95P. I've used this monitor before as a second display a few years back. I bought a " DVI 24+1 male to VGA female adapter DVI-D DVI-I DVI-A " and plugged it into my computer, no problem. Display shows up in system preferences, when I check mirror displays it takes the resolution of the 2nd display and the Sony flashes. However no screen, Blacked on the Sony. When I set up the displays to run into eachother, I can venture my mouse over onto where the other monitor would be, however it's black on the Sony.
What could be the problem? I didn't buy the Apple adapter, but could this REALLY be that serious of an issue? I didn't use it in the past, atleast I don't think I did.. Also could it be the OS? I'm using 10.6.8. Any help or advice/things to try would be awesome... I have two DVI slots in the back of my Mac Pro, gfx card is a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. Thanks guys.

I'm back. Got my Mac Pro back from repair today. Ahhh...25" screen. However, they (the Apple Repair People) have put a new GeForce 8800GT in, to replace the old one.
And the final bill was $380 CDN ($40 for work, the rest for the card, around $300.)
What's Apple's policy on graphics card replacement, even if the customer is paying for it? I thought I asked for a new ATI 5770 card, but maybe I was wrong. I don't think I can take her back in and ask 'em to put a better card in there, and only ask for a bit more to cover the difference in price. I've got a feeling it doesn't work like that.....
thanks
John B

2010 Mac Pro with Apple RAID card - "Drive carrier 00:03 removed"

I've got a 2010 Mac Pro with the Apple RAID card and 4 internal identical Seagate ST32000641AS 2TB drives inside.
I've never had a problem with the RAID card (either battery or in operation) except for one thing:
Almost every time I shut the machine down (which I try to do as rarely as possible), it keeps losing Drive 3, the spare.
(See RAID Utility event log snippet below.)
[I wish I could understand why this Apple RAID card keeps losing the spare across power-cycles/reboots, but I digress.]
So I just adopted it as the spare and it spawns the rebuild and many hours later, everything's fine again.
... until the last time I rebooted (Jan. 2nd).
After the usual "I lost the spare" message upon login, it began the rebuild.
But this time, about 11 1/2 hours later the rebuild stopped and RAID Utility reported "Drive carrier 00:03 removed".
Bay 3 is now missing in the Controller view.
I powered off the system last night, and left it off overnight. Today I took all the drives out, blew the dust off and reseated them.
Same thing. Drive 3 is still missing, and now the rebuild task aborted.
The drive bay location shouldn't matter, right? Can I swap the Bay 3 drive with the Bay 4 drive?
I figure one of two things would happen:
(1) It will report Bay 3 as being there but Bay 4 as being missing, same situation as is now. Meaning the problem is in the Bay 3 spare drive.
(2) It will report Bay 3 as being missing (despite a 'good' drive being present) and Bay 4 will be the (unattached) spare, and the RAID set will be unviable. Meaning the problem is with the drive bay itself, not whatever drive is plugged into it.
If "Drive carrier removed" is trying to tell me the disk is bad, why do I not see any log messages about it? I suppose a spare that never gets used could go bad from lack of use, but ... no messages at all?
Hesitant to plunk down $160 on a new spare disk if the present one isn't actually dead ...
% sudo raidutil list raidsetinfo
                                     Total     Avail
Raidsets      Type       Drives       Size      Size Comments
RS1           RAID 5     1,2,4      5.23TB    0.00MB Rebuild: 0% complete
% sudo raidutil list driveinfo
Drives Raidset       Size      Flags
Bay #1 RS1             2.00TB   IsMemberOfRAIDSet:RS1 IsReliable
Bay #2 RS1             2.00TB   IsMemberOfRAIDSet:RS1 IsReliable
Bay #4 RS1             2.00TB   IsMemberOfRAIDSet:RS1 IsReliable
Event log snippet:
Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:15:19 AM PT
Background task aborted: Task=Rebuild,Scope=DRVGRP,Group=RS1
informational
Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 AM PT
Drive carrier 00:03 removed
informational
Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:29:37 PM PT
Marked drive in bay 3 as a global spare
informational
Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:29:28 PM PT
Adopted drive in bay 3
informational
Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:28:34 PM PT
Degraded RAID set RS1 - No spare available for rebuild
critical
Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:35:17 PM PT
Marked drive in bay 3 as a global spare
informational
Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:35:08 PM PT
Adopted drive in bay 3
informational
Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:34:11 PM PT
The "RedundancyScrub" command could not be executed. (Invalid request or invalid parameter in the request.)
warning
Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:34:03 PM PT
Degraded RAID set RS1 - No spare available for rebuild
critical
Friday, December 6, 2013 4:56:47 AM PT
Battery finished conditioning
informational
Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:53:44 PM PT
Battery started scheduled conditioning cycle (write cache disabled)
informational
Friday, September 6, 2013 10:53:11 PM PT
Battery finished conditioning
informational
Friday, September 6, 2013 3:41:33 PM PT
Battery started scheduled conditioning cycle (write cache disabled)
informational
Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:41:35 PM PT
Battery finished conditioning
informational
Saturday, June 8, 2013 8:37:49 AM PT
Battery started scheduled conditioning cycle (write cache disabled)
informational
Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:09:51 PM PT
Marked drive in bay 3 as a global spare
informational
Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:09:42 PM PT
Adopted drive in bay 3
informational
Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:08:59 PM PT
Degraded RAID set RS1 - No spare available for rebuild
critical
Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:32:29 PM PT
Degraded RAID set RS1
warning

Power Pig wrote:
"Hesitant to plunk down $160 on a new spare disk if the present one isn't actually dead ...
% sudo raidutil list raidsetinfo
                                     Total     Avail
Raidsets      Type       Drives       Size      Size Comments
RS1           RAID 5     1,2,4      5.23TB    0.00MB Rebuild: 0% complete
I was talking about this.
This looks like a RAID 5 setup without the parity to me. I would said it basically a RAID 0.
Also you metioned "I guess that previous spare must really have gone 'bad', despite having never been used! "
I wiped everything out, I selected the 3 disks and clicked on "Create RAID Set" with RAID5 selected and the "Use unassigned drives as spares" option checked. The 3rd disk has always been marked as the spare ever since then. You do not have a choice to create a "RAID5 setup without the parity". If I wanted a RAID0 I would have chosen a RAID0! raidutil now says
% sudo raidutil list raidsetinfo
                                     Total     Avail
Raidsets      Type       Drives       Size      Size Comments
RS1           RAID 5     1,2,3,4    5.23TB    0.00MB No tasks running
Every time the system would 'lose' Drive 3 on boot, I would just keep rebooting until it was 'found', and then manually re-assign the now-'floating' drive as the spare - and the RAID would rebuild.
There was never a problem until the day that prompted this post - when it would not find Drive 3 no matter what I did. I turned the Mac Pro off for several hours until the drives had all cooled down and it still did not find the drive. I left the machine on but unmounted the degraded volume until I got the new replacement drive.
I really don't understand what you are getting at. It's like you are trying to tell me I set it up as a 4-drive RAID5 with no parity(!) and that I was in grave danger because one of the disks was gone. The actual RAID contents (spread across Drives 1, 2 and 4) were never in danger, unless a 2nd disk had failed while the spare was not seen by the Apple RAID card. I wasn't too worried about that happening.

Mac Pro with Apple Raid Card - 1 drive OSX (JBOD) + 1 drive Vista?

Can anyone walk me through what I'd need to do to set up an early 2008 model Mac Pro with the Apple Raid Card pre-installed and 2 500 gig drives, so that I can have OSX on the first drive and Vista on the second?
I know it defeats the purpose of the raid card, but...
What I've done so far is:
1. Removed drive #2
2. Install and using Raid Utility, add the first drive as a JBOD set/volume
3. After install, shut down the machine
4. Re-add drive #2
5. Restart
6. Use disk utility to add drive #2
I tried to use bootcamp, but it only wants to put windows on the first drive - which won't work because it is RAID.

Run Vista off an ATA interface in the 2nd optical drive. There is an SATA 2 ATA adapter.
I think you can boot Vista off some RAID controllers, check out Highpoint RocketRAIDs. Should be able to configure the RR.
Boot Vista off USB is a stretch.

2008 Mac Pro and Apple Cinema Display 27"

Is there some sort of adapter that would allow me to plug the new Apple Cinema Display 27" with a 2008 Mac Pro? Or what change would I have to make to be able to work this out?

Adrian - did you end up getting an adapter and using it? I purchased the Atlona DVI to Mini DisplayPort Converter (AT-DP200) to connect my 2008 MacbookPro (with GeForce 8600M GT) to the new 27 in. Cinema display, and though it works, it looks a bit fuzzy in terms of resolution. Having read the response here about making sure it is a DUAL link converter, I was going to try to return it for the AT-DP400.
Then I read another thread on here that seemed to indicate that the AT-DP400 would not work at all with the 2008 Macbook Pro.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2585380&tstart=0
So now I'm confused. Just wondering what your experience is, if you ended up with getting the display and converter.

How do i connect my Fujitsu Tablet + mac Pro to Apple Cinema Display 23'?

Dear Mac users
thanks in advance for your help.
I currently own:
• Fujitsu T 4220 (tablet) – Mobile Intel 965 Express – 60 Hertz – goes up to 1680*1050 (guess SXGA) – (it has the following other supported resolutions: 1400*1050, 1280*1024, 1280*768, 1280*720, 1024*768, and 800*600)
• Mac Pro
• Apple Cinema Display 23’
What I would like to do is, please refer to the jpeg posted on http://www.flickr.com/photos/34831802@N06/3234336204/, connect – at the same time – my tablet pc and my Mac Pro to the 23' Apple Cinema Display and switch (when I need) from tablet to MacPro using the same 23’ ACD. Top would be to be able to switch for one to the other while they’re both switched on. Usually on 2 pc’s with vga I’d use a switch A → B (in the jpeg it would be I → E) with a selector.
Have been reading different posts such as: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8000641&#8000641 or http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6530475&#6530475 or
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7417258&#7417258
+ others on the net and have (hopefully) understood that:
a) from Vga to Dvi I need a converter such as Geffen’s or similar
b) the problem with ACD 23’ is that it has only 3 resolutions: 1024*640, 1280*800 or 1920*1200
In the attached image I guessed a connection in order to connect – at the same time – both the machines to the 23’ ACD:
1) my fujitsu tablet (i in the image) has to be connected, with a Vga cable (h), to the Vga → Dvi converter (g).
2) from the Vga → Dvi converter (g) I need to connecto to the Dvi switch (c)
3) easier is connecting the Mac Pro (e), since I only need a Dvi cable (d) to connecto to the Dvi switch (c)
4) the Dvi switch (c) will then be connected to the 23’ ACD with a Dvi cable
Now, my questions are:
a) is the solution described above (Vga cable (h) to the Vga → Dvi converter (g)) a good solution or should I use, instead, a docking statione that comes with a Fujitsu Port Replicator (FPCPR65) which has a 1 x DVI-D port?
b) Given the 3 resolution accepted by the 23’ ACD (1024*640, 1280*800 or 1920*1200), I do not understand if I can use my tablet through a Vga to Dvi Converter and at which resolution (my tablet has the following other supported resolutions: 1680*1050, 1400*1050, 1280*1024, 1280*768, 1280*720, 1024*768, and 800*600).
c) Is there a way, also using an external video card or converter, to bring my resolution from 1680*1050 to 1920*1200? (the 16:10 ratio is in fact the same = WXGA (1280x800), WXGA+ (1440x900), WSXGA+ (1680x1050), WUXGA (1920x1200)
d) Talking about Vga → Dvi converter (g), am aware of the gefen product. Can you please list some others that might be good as well?
e) And how about the DVI switch? Any will work? Any particular suggestion?
Thank you very much for your help.
If you have any other suggestion, please let me know.
Regards,
Emil

Noone to help me?
No ideas?
Thanks,
Emil

Mac Pro 2008 Apple Cinema Displays are black and there are start up issues

I have a Mac Pro 2008 Dual quad 2.8 GHz. I have two Apple Cinema Displays (graphics are the standard ATI Radeon HD 2600 – 2 dual link DVI. I have 4 2-GB RAM sticks (8 GB total).
Neither of my displays are showing anything. Their power lights are on but they are completely black throughout the start up process. In addition when I try to boot up with both graphics cards installed, I get nothing – no beeps no chimes. If just one card is installed (either card in either slot) the computer beeps, chimes and makes the sounds of booting up, but not a flicker on the displays. RAM does not seem to be the issue as I have tried booting with several configurations of RAM sticks with no negative or positive effects. I tried booting up with Hard Drives 1 & 2 removed with no effect. I have tried several different start up moods and have reset PRAM.
My guess is that there is something wrong with the motherboard. Or is it possible that both graphics cards are bad?

The "least intensive" thing you can do is hold down Alt/Option at Startup. Thsi invokes the all-in-ROM Startup Manager, which will light up the screen gray or blue, then attempt to draw an Icon for each potentially-bootable Volume attached (if any). It works as if in slow motion, so you must be patient. If no activity after about two minutes you may count that as a failure.
The next most intensive is to attempt to boot from an incorruptible source of software, such as an Installer/Utilities DVD. This again uses the "one-size-fits-all" display driver, and attempts to load software off the DVD. The dark colored Apple is loaded off a drive -- it is not present inside your Mac.
The next most intensive step is to attempt to boot into Safe Mode. This also uses the "one-size-fits-all" display Driver, and does a disk check as it starts up, adding five minutes to the startup time. It then drwas a login screen and deamds your username and password, even if you normally auto-login.

New Mac Pro and Apple Cinema Display

Warning, for those of you upgrading to the new Mac Pro and you plan on using your old Cinema Display, you will not get the maximum resolution out of the display. In fact, you only get 1650 x 800--which of course is way under utilizing install resources and on top of that not a great picture. Even using recommended set up (mini display to DVI adaptor) does not help. You need a Thunderbolt Display for best video performance. Unless someone out there knows a way to do this--be prepared also to buy a new display.

Turbostar, it is the Apple 30 inch cinema display. Yes it works but the max resolution is 1650 X 800 which while acceptable does not get me 2560 x 1600 which my D500 GBUs would deliver. The new Pro is optimized for a Thunderbolt display, I am using the correct connection protocols as recommended by Apple on their web page for this system. There is a specific note in Apple support noted that Cinema displays will only provide xxxx resolution on the new Mac Pro's. Corsair.

New mac pro with ATI video card & 2x 24" displays??

is it possible to connect two 24" apple displays to the new mac pro using the ATI video card?

2 nVidia cards doesn't buy you any performance increases. They don't talk to each other to improve performance in Mac OSX. Multiple cards is mostly for supporting multiple displays. How many displays do you have?
Apple has some initial performance benchmarks:
http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html
Scroll down to see the graphs. The HD4870 destroys the GT120
Message was edited by: Wormy-san
Fixed names of cards

Windows and Mac Pro w/ Apple RAID card

It happened i have a need to run Windows natively on Mac Pro with Apple RAID card installed.
I know there is no Windows driver for that card, but i had a hope to bypass RAID card via connecting of internal SATA drive directly to iPass(SSF-8087) connector of Mac Pro's motherboard and using of that drive for Windows.
So, i've connected SATA drive this way and it works fine with OS X.
But i can't even try it with Windows because Mac Pro doesn't boot up from Windows installation CD if Apple RAID card installed
Empty black text console is all that i've got after selecting of Windows installation CD in EFI boot menu.
I need a suggestion how to bypass my problem, or generally speaking, how to install Windows onto Mac Pro with Apple RAID card.

I've tried that.
Installation and booting of WinXP passed OK if RAID card removed.
But i've got black screen again trying to boot WinXP after RAID card re-installed.

Mac pro & non apple displays

is it true that some non apple display don't seem to be liked by mac pro. i have a dell E207WEP 20" display and with my mac pro it makes diagonal line ripples. its only with my mac pro. my past quad G5 didn't have this problem. + nothing wrong with my mac pro bc it works fine with apple displays and few others. nothing wrong with my display bc it works with other computers. but i've noticed that when i took the display to the store the same problem occurred which i used it with a store mac pro. is it a mac pro + dell compatibility issue? apple even replaced my ATI HD2600 but it did not fix anything.

its very weird bc this monitor and mac pro isn't meant to be. what do you think about this: http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/03/10/radeon.2600.xt.for.mac.pro/
+
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/02/25/mac.pro.ati.freezing.issue/

My recent purchase of QuickTime 7 Pro for Mac OS X upgrade doesn't do "screen record" on my Intel Mac Pro with system 10.6.8. Apple won't accept responsibility and refund my money.

My recent purchase of QuickTime 7 Pro for Mac OS X upgrade doesn't do "screen record" on my Intel Mac Pro with system 10.6.8. Apple won't accept responsibility and refund my money.

QuickTime 7 doesn't offer that, but the built-in QuickTime X Player does. You may find another use for the key.
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Mac Pro with X1900 XT graphics card EFI boot display

Hi all,
I've got this problem with my mac pro with ATI Radeon X1900 XT - 1st DVI connected to the 23 inch apple display and the 2nd DVI connected to my optoma dlp projector.
My problem is that the EFI boot menu shows up on the 2nd DVI connection. So basically I see the boot menu only on the projector when it should have been on my apple display.
Can someone please help me figure this out. Can't seem to find any on google or anywhere else.
Thanks in advance for the help!

Sorry, I forgot to add that small detail..
I can switch both connections and it'll work for the mac part of the deal but the windows end cant switch screens - making the apple display the primary display on windows..
now it sounds like a "windows" issue doesnt it!?heh

2008 Apple Mac Pro with SAPPHIRE TRI-X R9 290 4GB GDDR5 OC (UEFI)

Dear Apple,
Can you please add hardware/drivers support for the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 GDDR5 OC (UEFI) Graphics cards to the latest Mac OS X 10.10 operating system?
We have a few Apple Mac Pro's that we installed older Radeon 7970 graphics cards in (a few years back) and now we are upgrading the graphics cards to the newest Radeon R9 290 Series cards (Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 4GB GDDR5 OC UEFI).
We chose the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 4GB GDDR5 OC (UEFI) (11227-00-40G) Graphics cards.
The Sapphire Graphics card can be found here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=2091 &psn=&lid=1&leg=0
We have been trying to figure out how to get this graphics card to work with the latest OS X 10.10 Yosemite. We are installing two Sapphire R9 290 graphics cards per machine.
We want to make sure that the OS X drivers support multiple monitors, CrossFire, as well as HDMI audio, and support GPU hardware support in the latest OS X 10.10 Yosemite.
Has anyone managed to get the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 (SKU ID: 11227-00-40G) working in a 2008 or 2009 Apple Mac Pro?
We have 24 Apple Mac Pro's and we purchased 48 of the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 graphics cards (to install into the Apple Mac Pro's) and we're trying to figure out how to add driver support to OS X for the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 / Radeon R9 290 to the latest Mac OS X.
If I go into the "Graphics/Displays" Hardware section it shows that the Sapphire card (in Slot 2) is installed, but it only displays the name "Display".
The properties of the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 graphics card are:
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x67b1
Revision ID: 0x0000
Kernel Extension Info: No Kext Loaded
Any ideas as to how to install hardware drivers to get these graphics cards to work properly in OS X 10.10 Yosemite and to enable GPU hardware support in OS X and also enable HDMI Audio?

Over a YEAR has passed, and we still can't get Apple to add the latest hardware drivers for the newest/latest AMD Graphics Cards (AMD R9 290 series).
We have contacted AMD, and Sapphire, and everyone has pointed their fingers back at Apple, and said that Apple is the only ones that can add the latest graphics drivers to their Apple OS X Operating System.
So the problem lies on Apple, and Apple refuses to update it's operating system to support the newest/latest hardware.
AMD pointed us right back to Apple and said that it's Apple's OS X Operating System, and that it's Apple's job to add and write the newest/latest graphics display drivers to their OS X operating system.
AMD says it's Apple's fault. Sapphire says it's Apple's fault. Apple just refuses to do anything, and ultimately it's Apple's operating system and Apple's closed-ended ecosystem that refuses to allow customers/users to upgrade their Apple Mac Pro computers to the newest/latest hardware.
In the end, I guess the only solution is to abandon Apple Mac Pro products, and just start purchasing "Microsoft Windows PC" computers that we can upgrade and that have PCIe slots that we can just swap out the graphics cards (every year) with the newest/latest graphics card hardware.
Here: http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=440&threadid=181379
Here: https://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?33574-2008-2012-Apple-Mac-Pro-with- SAPPHIRE-TRI-X-R9-290-4GB-GDDR5-OC-(UEFI)&p=277467#post277467
Apple seems to be a "dead end" and they don't support their high-end customers and don't seem to support Apple Mac Pro (high-end) users. Apple only seems to be concerned about selling iPods and iPads and iPhones, and they've abandoned their HIGH-END Apple Mac Pro users that want HIGH-END workstations for professional use.
I guess if you want a high-end workstation, you have to go back to buying a Microsoft Windows PC, and start going back to using the Adobe suite, and just completely abandon Apple and Apple products all together. (Apple is not in the business of designing or selling "high-end" products anymore). Apple just designs low-end "overpriced" hardware, that you can't upgrade, and must toss in the garbage every other year, because you can't upgrade it.
Apple has been heading this way for years, and the newest/latest "Black Shiny Trash Can" (that is NOT upgradeable and has no upgradeable PCIe slots and no way to even upgrade the video cards) and Apple has turned into a "disposable" computer company/business that just builds "All-In-One" garbage computers (that become extremely outdated and must be thrown away every other year, because they are not upgradeable) and you can't swap out video cards using standard COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf) latest Graphics Card adapters, and we can't even get the latest Mac OS X operating system to support the newest/latest graphics display hardware, it seems like our only choice (as others have stated before) is to abandon Apple products and begin moving/migrating back to Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro machines.
We can't get Apple to support their customers or update their operating system or support the newest/latest hardware in their operating system, so it seems to be a "dead end" ecosystem, and Windows 8.1 Pro and using standard PC hardware is probably a much cheaper/affordable route and it's a long-term solution, because Apple seems to come out with one nice product (every ten years) and then they don't support the product or it's users, or don't follow-up with Apple OS X operating system upgrades, and then you are stuck with very old outdated hardware because you can't even get the newest/latest drivers for the latest graphics cards/hardware.
The only solution is to boot directly into Windows 8.1 Pro, and use Windows drivers, but then why even own a Apple Mac Pro if we can't use Apple OS X and can't even use our OS X software, and the only solution is to use our Apple Mac Pro as a Windows PC?
We're really disappointed in Apple and how Apple fails to update Apple OS X and fails to support the latest graphics cards (such as the AMD R9 290 graphics card).
I think 2014 is the last year that we are going to deal with Apple. Starting in 2015, as part of our 2015 New Year's Resolution, I guess we'll start e-baying our Apple Mac Pro equipment, or selling it (as salvage) and begin purchasing standard Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro high-end workstations, and get away from the old legacy dead-end Apple garbage hardware and dead-end Apple OS X operating system.
It shouldn't be this hard, just to get some graphics drivers released to support the latest graphics card (which has been out for over a year now). The Radeon R9 290 graphics cards were out in mid 2013 (for over a year and a half, almost 2 years now...) and we are already coming up on 2015, and Apple still hasn't added drivers support for the R9 290 series graphics cards to it's latest Apple OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite.
It's a shame, but Apple has really gone downhill over the past few years. Nothing but really old and outdated hardware, and even their "latest" Apple Mac Pro is 2-3 year old hardware (that Apple is marketing as "new") and it's non-upgradeable, and you can't even run/install the latest graphics cards into it.
Apple is dead-end and it's not a place for "high-end" users anymore. I guess Apple doesn't care about it's "high-end" user market anymore, and is just interested in designing silly iPhones and iPods/iPads.

Is it good time to buy Mac Pro with display?

Hi There,
I am thinking to buy Mac Pro with display and I wonder if it’s good time to do that. Displays still waiting for update. We have been waiting for Mac Pro update long and as far as I see the update wasn’t what people generally expected.
And disappointing thing about Blue-ray drive as well. I think it was good time to put one in by Apple.
So do you think its good time to buy all that stuff or wait longer and perhaps better Mac Pro with new display will come out soon?
Regards

Rufus wrote:
Um no.. It's more than an "extravagant speed bump," the new Mac Pro is using the new 45nm chip architecture. In addition, the significantly larger cache and faster 800mhz RAM make for drastic performance increase.<</div>
Um...yes..
and with this new faster processor, I'm to do what with???...open an Excel spreadsheet a nanosecond faster, get a few more fps on Doom3? Woop-tee-do! I now have 8 cores but most software uses 1 of them while the other 7 purr in idle.
BluRay/HD video is here... or should I say HAS BEEN here for over a year now.... how am I going to use this new super-dooper processor with editing, creating, and authoring HD video and discs?
A faster processor at this point is meaningless without the tools to use it with.
All they did with the new MacPro is give you a computer that is worth the fixed $2800 price tag.
Reminds me of the tire commercial on tv where they describe this car with exotic and powerful 12 cylinder engine, and plush leather seats, and race proven suspension...... but with no tires.
It all looks great on a spec sheet, but you can't use it to do any real work.
I can film HD video all day long, but I can't use a Mac to put it on disc...... (but I can use a Dell!!)
There is no way anyone can explain this other than political.... I would bet that this has something to do with Steve's affiliation with Disney and other studios in regards to his doomed movie rental snafu. Apple has always been the ground breaker in bringing such technology to the market first (a mouse, a cd drive, multiple displays, a superdrive, etc.), and usually before the consumer even understands they need it. To be this far behind with BluRay, he's got to be holding back for a reason ... and I would love to hear it.
I've been a Mac user for 22 yrs and have only been embarrised to be so twice... once when the fruit flavored iMacs were introduced (eventually proved to be the best selling computer model of all times), and now with the absence of BluRay. I've been hoping Steve will prove me wrong again, but I've been hoping for year now... and am still waiting.
Um... No, the Mac Pros power isn't gonna do much for an excel spreadsheet.. However, I bought mine to use with Logic Studio which does take advantage of all eight-cores and the faster front side bus and RAM, and the performance is remarkable..
Just for kicks I timed how long it took to rip "Finding Nemo" with my old G4 dual 1.25 ghz using Handbrake's Apple TV preset... The G4 took 7 hours and 54 minutes.. My new Mac Pro did the same job in 24 minutes..
If you really want a Blu-Ray drive in your Mac Pro, then just buy one and stick it in the empty optical slot, but be prepared for the price tag... http://www.mcetech.com/blu-ray/
And if you use one of the Pro apps that takes advantage of multiple cores, the new Mac pro is a dream.. If you don't use one of those apps, you probably don't need a Mac Pro. At any rate, you're whole spiel about the Mac pro's power being trivial or useless is nonsense..

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