0WBS_ELEMT_ATTR Master Data - Delta Mode extraction

Hi experts,
I am trying to test the Delta mechanism for Master Data on 0WBS_ELEMT_ATTR but have a query. Basically, i have set my extractor to Delta mode. then did an INITload - which pulled thought all records. I then made a change in ECC6 to one WBS Element. In BI, i ran the Delta package expecting only the 1 record i amended in source system. However, I got 10 records. Upon further investigation, these additional 9 records are all records which sit within the same hierarchy of the 'amended' WBS element. So, it's pulling through all those records also. I only want 1 record in my Delta load if i make 1 change - Have i missed something or is this normal activity for WBS_ELEMT_ATTR extractor in delta mode?
Thanks in advance.
Munaf.

HI,
Can you check the Log of changes for those extra WBS element in R3 ie whether some other one has changed those WBS element in R3 or the change you made is available in other WBS element also in R3 on the same time and tell us.
What is the change you made in WBS element ie which field in WBS element you changed in R3.
Thanks,
Arun

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