1.9 bios, disable Cool n quiet = no boot.

Hi Guys,
Recently flashed to 1.9 bios, which although seems to take longer to boot, has given me 1t timings and 400mhz ram speed with my San diego core, so on that side i'm happy and my pc seems to be running sweet.
However after tweaking my bios settings after flashing (disabling unused resources, tweak ram timings etc etc) i've noticed that if if DISABLE cool n quiet in the cell menu, when i try and boot up, I get to the windows logo screen and my comp just freezes. Only way to get out is to hit hold reset switch in.
If i go back in to cell menmu and enable cool n quiet in bios (changing nothing else at all) then I can boot up fine.
I haven't loaded to cool n quiet drivers and don't really want to use it, I haven't gone into windows power management and changed anything there either, so i just want to disable it in bios if i'm not using it.
Any one have any ideas.

You could just leave it on auto and don't use any power saving schemes (choose always on) and don't load the AMD cpu driver .
Then CnQ should not be active .
Or you could flash to 1.A3 , it's supposedly being fixed there .

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Originally posted by kensterman
Does Cool n' Quiet need any software for it to work, or does the CPU/Fan slow down automatically? I notice that I have to use MSI's Core Center to activiate Cool n' Quiet. Anyone??
No, Corecenter is almost useless and is NOT needed to "activate" Cool n Quiet. The best it can do is tell you fan speed and temps, and even that is questionable. It will also tell you clock speed but you can get that from right clicking "My Computer" choose Properties, go to General tab, note mhz displayed there. If it is about half of full clock speed for your CPU, then CnQ is working right. If it shows full clock speed, then CoolnQuiet is NOT working and you need to re-read Mr. Woo's original post which gives details about how to enable it.
Next, about fan speed. You have to understand that CnQ does not have anything to do with fan speed directly. Unless you have fan speed control disabled in BIOS, then your fan is going to control as you described whether you have CnQ enabled or not. In BIOS, in the H/W Monitor section, there is a place to enable or disable fan speed control - it's called CPU Smart Temperature Monitor or something like that.
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Okay, my new PC is up and running stable in WinXP Pro. Here are some very basic noob questions:
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Glad to see we are down to minor bits and bobs.
The bios version should be at top of first post screen. use pause if its passes to quick.
BUT, live update checks what version you have, if there is a newer version it will tell you. there is a 1.33 available from MSI, but not on live update yet.
There are various threads on C & Q, I don't use it, but some who do like it, others confused by it, you have obviously read the threads. So you know more than me !!
Hyperion 4 in 1 is the best driver, if C & Q is working for you I would leave it be, the fan will speed up or slow down on temp. That will take a few secs time lag as chip heats up, or cools down. As long as CPU temp stays within norms, I would think is is working normally.
Enjoy it
Jocko

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hi,
i have the same problem with the same chipset. (even if its another mb)
your post has been a big hint because after my lockups occured i tried to reproduce them with system/cpu torture tests but have not been succsessful. after that i declared that my system has been miraculously cured and went back to normal (i.e. mostly idle) usage and. bang, lockups again. so i disabled cool'n quiet for now and will see if that helps.
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Howdy All!
Okay...
I did a search on Cool N Quiet in these forums and there were something like 156 posts with "Cool N Quiet" in the body or title of the post. I searched around and I didn't find anything complaining about what I'm about to ask you guys.
Most posts deal with the fact that people are were having trouble getting Cool N Quiet to reduce their CPU speed from 2000MHz to 800MHz.
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Here's my problem: I've been playing a game called X2-The Threat lately...hated it at first, but it's growing on me. Anyway, this game worked flawlessly for several weeks with all the fancy, shmancy graphics functions turned on. All of a sudden, it starts freezing on me after about 5 minutes. I checked for viruses...none. I started tweaking graphics settings in the game...got rid of antialiasing and some other stuff...reduced resolution to 800x600...etc. Still the game freezes. THEN l looked at my CPU speed and low and behold....I'm down to 800MHz! Cool N Quiet seems to be working to reduce my speed, but it doesn't seem to ramp up the speed when I need it.
Has anybody seen that before? When I disable Cool N Quiet in BIOS I show CPU speeds at weird MHz readings....345Mhz and 376MHz...stuff like that. Very odd. You people have always been so helpful....any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
-Kyde

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It is probably a Windows problem. If you turn off automatic reboot there is a good(?) chance you will get a blue-screen with some more or less informative numbers. Google that.
Here is a FAQ for your situation: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=faq2show&faq_no=1672

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I have a problem with the Cool and Quiet feature on the K8N Neo2 Platinum (v1.3 bios).
As soon and I boot the Core Center v1.7.0.0 will instantly overclock my A64 3500+ CPU to 3000+ Mhz. Of course this reboots my PC.
I have Cool and Quiet enabled in the bios, Automatic overclocking disabled in the bios and the Core Center softwares overclocking is (well it was) disabled? How can I install it or get it to stop overclocking the system.
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Strange that Corecenter would overclock your cpu to 3ghz. It's known to be unreliable software, but not that unreliable.
Are you running a stock 3500+, or are you overclocking the HTT/FSB beyond 200?
Previous posted was right about cool and quiet software. You don't need corecenter to run it. Just stay away from corecenter and even uninstall it
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1.5V, 11x
1.4V, 10x
1.3V, 9x
1.1V, 5x
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(a) a fan that has a temperature sensor and which automatically changes its speed based on that, or
(b) just use the motherboard BIOS setting to do the same via bios software.
(c) use speedfan to do the same via windows software.
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Quote from: Tiresmoke on 21-March-05, 00:19:19
As undervolting is not considured standard operating proceedures then how can it be considured a bug.
nor is overclocking but MSI mobo manual reads 'This motherboard is designed to support overclocking.'
So this mobo is designed for supporting at least one non standard operating procedure
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Well flash to the latest BIOS 2.3 ==> http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1438

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Windows XP utilties (mbm, sandra, speedfan, even corecell) all report my temps to be in the mid 30 degrees C, however the bios reports them as 45 degrees, which should I trust?
Also I think I've gotten half of cool n quiet working, vcore is down when cpu is not doing intensive work and so is the multiplier, making it run approx 1 GHz give or take. However, I believe that my AMD stock fan always spins around the same speed (approx 3200 rpm), regardless whether the cpu is doing intensive work or idles, is something wrong? I have the cool, wheres the quiet where my fan is supposed to slow down?
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well the temperature in bios is very likely to to be above of that in windows, because cool n quiet doesnt work in bios and processor runs at normal frequencies there. The fan speed problem can be either of two things i know, first is that you haven't enabled smart cpu fan in bios and other is if you go to standby and then resume, it seems that cool n quiet works after it but mobo doesn't control the fan speed after standby. These are just some things i have noticed. The bios 1.4 is very good btw (atleast for normal use, i dont't overclock so no idea about that).

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Hey guys,
I recently flashed my BIOS (AMI) to 1.3 for the K9N NEO motherboard and noticed that the Cool 'n Quiet option in the H/W menu group is missing. I don't know if it was already missing prior to flashing the BIOS, but I am assuming that it was removed since it was already enabled by default. Is this correct?
I observed the behavior of the machine using CPU-Z after setting the Power Scheme to Minimal Power Management in Windows, but did not notice any drop in voltage nor CPU speed.
Any thoughts on this? Did they really remove the option from version 1.3 of the BIOS? How long must the machine remain idle while in Windows for the Cool 'n Quiet feature to kick in?
Thanks in advance for your response! Here are the specifications of my machine:
Processor: Sempron 3000+ 1.6GHz
Motherboard: K9N Neo
Memory: 1-Generic 512MB DDR2 PC533
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There is no CnQ support for that model Am2 Sempron 3000+
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/am2sempron-1.htm
(so it's just logical the BIOS detects it and hides the CnQ option)
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