1 Gig or 2?
Hi,
Thinking about buying a new iMac and just wondered whether I should get 1GB or 2GB of RAM? My main use is internet, word processing etc. However I have a huge iTunes library that does take a while to load, and I also like to use iDVD and Photoshop that can run annoyingly slow.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
I think so, but I can spend your money all day - LOL!
My rule of thumb is to get the things that I want that I cannot add later, like the larger screen, faster CPU, better graphics - and add the RAM or keyboards later. In fact, you can get the standard HD and get a good quality FW drive later too.
I cannot imagine using a screen any smaller than the 20" that I have now. In fact, I am upgrading the PC to a 20" wide as a result.
You have a budget and I understand that, but there are ways to stretch it out so that you get what you need now without sacrificing long term.
Again, it is up to you and this is just my opinion, but the 20" screen is stunning and very handy to have. The 17" wide seems small to me.
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7) Hit f0 and save the config.
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A8n-sli premium (Bios -06)
amd X2 4400 (~2.5 GHZ)
4GB LL patriot memory (~228 HZ)
X-Fi Extreme Music
LSI 320-2e PCI express SCSI RAID controller (256MB buffer)
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Memory Question "4x1 Gig or 2x2 Gig?" what is faster?
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http://www.janmaartendewit.comHello Jan
Welcome to Apple Discussions
The iMac (Late 2009): Installing or replacing memory article and your User's Guide are pretty clear, they both say that +"You can use 2 GB or 4 GB RAM SO-DIMMs of 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM in each slot."+ and not 1GB modules. > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3918
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I have an HP Pavilion HPE h8-1120 Desktop PC with 8 Gig of RAM. I want to upgrade to the maximum allowable 16 Gig. There are only two slots so I'm looking for a pair of 8 gig sticks. Can't find any on HP's recommended vendors website. Any ideas?
Hi,
Please try the following relaible vendor:
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The site can check your machine and give you a right configuration. You can buy from them or use the info to buy elsewhere.
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