$10,000 - $15,000 Premiere/After Effects Build Recommendations

Hello,
If you were to build a computer for HD editing between $10,000 to $15,000, what do you guys recommend?
Requirements for the system:
The computer needs to burn Blu-Ray discs. It also needs to be compatible with Blackmagic Multibridge. The system needs to be capable of running CS5 software, including AE and Premiere.
We have space for a full-size tower. We were considering this tower: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112159 but are open to other cases.
Storage. Preference is speed/reliability over total storage space. We are open to using external storage enclosures, but would prefer that some of the drives remain inside the computer case.
If you have any other questions please ask. The system will be used in a production environment.
Joshua

From the After Effects side, I say to get an 8-core system, which with hyperthreading is 16 processors. At 4GB per processor, that's 64GB of RAM. And you certainly want to have at least two fast local hard disk drives.
I'll leave it to the Prmeiere Pro folks to throw in what they'd recommend for the Premiere Pro side. But for After Effects, the mantra is RAM, CPUs, and fast disks.

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What is your Premiere, After Effects and SpeedGrade Workflow?

Hi Everyone,
I am an experienced editor who's switched to Adobe's CC barely a year ago. At the moment I'm in the midst of finishing up a corporate project and trying to think of the best workflow between Premiere, After Effects and SpeedGrade. I'm loving the Dynamic Link workflows, but at the some time I'm facing some obstacles, and am wondering how you guys do your work.
Let's say I finished the edit of the project and send the project via Dynamic Link to SG. I finish the grade and then decide to use the Dynamic Link to AE to add some titles with shapes and effects such as Fast Blur. This is where I'm facing the first problem. When I choose a clip to be 'Replaced with an AE Composition', the color correction is gone, and now if I grade in SG, it will naturally grade the titles I added. So, it seems as though my color grade is a waste of time and I have to do it the old school way of first absolutley completing the color grade, exporting, re-importing and then heading for titles and effects. That makes you lose quite a bit of "dynamics" in your work (and time aka money), if my clients want changes for example.
For simple animations with text, and shapes, this is not a big issue since you could easily add the titles to a second Video track. But when you use After Effects which changes the acutal image of a clip by adding effects, things don't work out too easily. But in any case, these might just be the limitations to the relativley new Dynamic Link workflow.
In my specific example, how would you go about it? What is your workflow? Maybe I'm missing out on some tips & tricks.
Be happy to hear from you guys and maybe get some expert knowledge.
Best,
fabian

Hey there,
I'm also looking for a solid workflow solution since adopting (and actually really liking) Speedgrade. So below is what I'm going to try which should work and will follow this thread to see if any other workflows pop up. Also typing this out here to help me with plan of attack
Project Specs - 3 minute corporate video with text animation, interviews, broll, and computer screen replacement
Edit in Premiere
Dynamic link to SpeedGrade for color correction
Open back up in Premiere, confirm all color corrections are applied, and then duplicate sequence to an AE Prep extension
In AE prep sequence, take all AE "base" shots (for computer screen composite or anything needing stabilization) up onto their own track (i.e. V5 & V6)
Add 10 frame handles to in & out, checkerboard clips as needed
Delete all other remaining content but keep blank spaces / no ripple deletes
Export this out to a ProRes4444 QT movie
Import ProRes4444 QT movie back into premiere, add over existing video layers in AE Prep extension sequence, and then there time out the screen shot replacement content to cover effect duration
Dynamic link AE Prep Premiere Pro sequence to AE
Do the AE work
Dynamic link back to Premiere
DoneHopefully
This was my similar work around back in the day before I had Automatic Duck in FCP to AE
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I just installed Production Premium CS5 on a Windows 7 64 bit system. The install went without a hitch, but when I attempted to start Premiere, After Effects or Encore, they would all hang at some place with the splash screen showing. I spent 2 hours on the phone with Adobe and they never solved the problem. They had me uninstall iTunes and Quicktime, upgrade my nVidea driver and upgrade to a newer version of Quicktime. None of this made a difference and at that point I realized they were not going to fix my problem. The first woman was an idiot and the guy I spoke to next was a lot better, but no solution. Premiere was hanging when loading the Quicktime plug-ins.
Then I had an Aha! moment. I shut off User Account Control, rebooted and then everything worked. I could also get the programs to work with UAC on if I changed the shortcut to "Run as Administrator" but then there would be a UAC prompt. By the way, I was running as a user with full administrator privileges.
I am astounded that Adobe has never encountered this problem before and did not have an immediate solution. Once again, Adobe Tech Support has continued to provide pathetic tech support.
Steve

The plug-ins that were involved in the hang on the splash screen were:
ExporterQuickTimeHost.prm
ImporterQuickTime.prm
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Premiere, After Effects, SpeedGrade Not Available

I do not have premiere, after effects, or speedgrade as an available option for downloading. My Adobe Application Manager only displays 13 available downloads.

Hi,
If you are using 32-bit machine then it will not be available.
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Hi, I'm just started a company working with young people, and I need a laptop for editing some videos (short films/music videos).
I was looking at a cheap laptop to be able to run Adobe Premiere and After Effects smoothly. I was told that this laptop would run smoothly:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-envy-m6-1178sa-15-6-laptop-17419990-pdt.html
Can anyone confirm this? The graphics card is not listed on the Adobe's website but I was told it's compatible?
Im new to this stuff so please help, thank you.

How realistic are the system requirements Adobe posts on their site?
System requirements
Windows
Intel® Pentium® 4 or AMD Athlon® 64 processor with 64-bit support; Intel Core®2 Duo or AMD Phenom® II processor required for Adobe® Premiere® Pro, After Effects®, and Encore®; Intel Core i7 processor required for Adobe SpeedGrade™
Microsoft® Windows® 7 with Service Pack 1 (64 bit) and Windows® 8. Refer to the CS6 FAQ for more information about Windows 8 support.*
2GB of RAM (4GB recommended) for 32 bit; 4GB of RAM (8GB recommended) for 64 bit
14.5GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on removable flash storage devices)
Additional disk space required for disk cache, preview files, and other working files (10GB recommended)
1280x900 display with 16-bit color and 512MB of VRAM; 1680x1050 display required, and second professionally calibrated viewing display recommended for SpeedGrade
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
Sound card compatible with ASIO protocol or Microsoft WDM/MME
DVD-ROM drive compatible with dual-layer DVDs (DVD+-R burner for burning DVDs; Blu-ray burner for creating Blu-ray Disc media)
Java™ Runtime Environment 1.6 (included)
Eclipse™ 3.7 (for plug-in installation of Adobe Flash® Builder®); the following distributions are supported: Eclipse IDE for Java EE and Java Developers, Eclipse Classic, Eclipse for PHP Developers
QuickTime 7.6.6 software required for QuickTime features, multimedia, and HTML5 media playback
Dedicated GPU card required for SpeedGrade (for optimal performance in SpeedGrade and for GPU-accelerated features in Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects: NVIDIA Quadro 4000, 5000, or 6000 or other Adobe-certified GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended); visit www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html for supported cards
Optional: Tangent CP200 family or Tangent Wave control surface for SpeedGrade
Optional: For SDI output, NVIDIA Quadro SDI Output card required for SpeedGrade
Optional: 7200 RPM hard drive (multiple fast disk drives, preferably RAID 0 configured, recommended) for video products
This software will not operate without activation. Broadband Internet connection and registration are required for software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.† Phone activation is not available.
You have to be from another world to believe these requirements. Note the last optional statement. Up to and including CS4 this stated:
Dedicated 7200 RPM hard drive (multiple fast disk drives, preferably RAID 0 configured) for video products.
Nobody in his right mind believes that system requirements get lower over time. It is purely a marketing lie to artificially lure prospective buyers.
The requirement to have two physical disks for CS6 is bogus.
If anything is bogus, it is the system requirements from Adobe and only fools would try to use a system with these minimum requirements, like this:
Pentium 4 with 4 GB of RAM, 24.5 GB of hard disk space is enough according to them.
Harm is confusing editing with getting high PPBM scores, I am afraid - again. Not all projects have 10 layers of H.264 stacked with heavy effects for two hours straight. The vast majority of editing is simple transitions and effects with 10 minutes of YouTube encoding twice a week.
Wrong assumption. I was thinking of a simple DV timeline with one single track. And however much you dislike the PPBM benchmark, it is the only available tool to show how well a system is setup and in balance. Question: Is your dislike of the benchmark based on the fact that your favorite HP Z820 does not do well?

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Dear Apple support,
I currently own a late 2009 iMac 27".
I studied & using Adobe After Effects & Premiere Pro.
I'm seriously considering to buy the MacPro !
However: I am seeing a lot of talks in forums about problematic issues with the MacPro & Adobe.
1. For example, see this discussion: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7489619
To quote from the forum discussion:
     "I'm very disappointed with Apple lately. Ever since they pulled out of exhibiting at the NAB Show, it seems they've been neglecting the needs of professional      users. They took too long to refresh the Mac Pro line and, when they finally did refresh it, it was more to the benefit of hobbyists than professionals in studio      environments"
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   "more and more people are jumping to Windows. Windows 7 is rock solid for using Adobe software. I love it. You get more processing power for your money      with a PC and several companies are building very quality machines these days. Until Apple makes some changes, I'll recommend a PC workstation over a      Mac Pro"
Now, I love Apple, and I don't believe everything I read, but,
I assume that you guys are aware that there are many other discussions of this sort ?
2. I also contacted Adobe's support. I asked their support engineer, what would he buy? a MacPro or a PC.
He's reply was: "I'll go with Windows, Windows 7"
Would it be possible to hear directly from you (Apple support) what exactly the situation is with Adobe's products?
What is the present situation? and, what is going to happen in the future?
I own & love several Apple's products, and I'm very interested in the MacPro.
However, there are too many bad talks in the forums which are making me scared to invest in a MacPro (it's not cheap for me)
I'm really confused !
Hoping to hear back a detailed & honest answer.
Sincerely,
Tal Mor

You are not talking to Apple Support when you post on this Apple User-to-User forum. Apple makes no promise to read these postings, and never responds here unless your post goes unanswered for several days.
Your question should be directed at Adobe, not Apple. Apple has provided good Hardware, and made a serious commitment to OpenCL. Final Cut X takes advantage of both.
Despite Adobe's public promises to take advantage of the new Mac Pro Hardware, they have been very slow at delivering software that takes advantage of the features of the new cylinder Mac Pro and developing OpenCL versions of their software. Adobe seems to prefer the proprietary approach provided by NVIDIA CUDA.

Premiere, After Effects, Speedgrade, Media Encoder and... the dynamic link

My feeback after working with the dynamic link these days. Basic project. Editing, color correction, animated titles.
I'm using a 3.5Ghz iMac 24GB Ram and a GTX 780 4GB. (2014 versions & last updates).
Rendering the timeline in Premiere is sometimes extremly slow (with AE comps). Need to quit and reload the project to get a good speed.
Too long delay of refresh for the AE compositions inside Premiere (with the dynamic link). Need to go in AE then back to Premiere to get the refresh.
When i export to media encoder i need sometimes to save then send it 2 or 3 times to get the last edits in the export.
Even worse with the AE compositions. If i change something in AE then export from Premiere i need to quit and reload Media Encoder to get the last changes.
Really fast export from Premiere to Speedgrade and from Speedgrade to Premiere.
But !!! Lumetri fx is not compatible with AE. And Speedgrade doesn't support BlackMagic but only this nVidia Sdi thing.
And why we could not export h264 from AE anymore ???
Quiet disappointing :-(

Using Premiere Pro CC 2014.0.1 (build 21) and Media Encoder 2014.0.1 (build 8.0.1.48) on OS X 10.8.5
If I Export a video from Premiere, I can continue using Premiere, but if I Queue an export, returning to Premiere produces the beach ball of death. If I give it time, the beach ball goes away and the arrow returns, but trying to click anywhere in Premiere simply returns the beach ball. There is nothing to be done but Force Quit Premiere. I can leave Premiere and run any other application, but if I leave to execute the Media Encoder queue, I cannot return to Premiere and use Premiere. I can visit Media Encoder (call it to the foreground) and return to Premiere after the queue is done.
My current workaround is to use Export from Premiere and not use Queue from Premiere.

Dual-core or Quad-core for Premiere, After Effects, and Photoshop CS4?

We are planning to purchase around 25 computers for a computer lab for working with CS4 Production Premium at the high school level. Mainly Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop. Our budget is, unfortunately, a mere $550-$625 per machine (just the tower though, we have monitors). I've already established that a 64-bit operating system makes a significant difference in the performance, even though Photoshop is the only 64-bit application, and I'm now hung up on whether or not it's worth the cost of a quad-core processor over a dual-core.
I'm discovering the different hardware needs for each application, so I'm trying to find an economic balance that will give me the best performance per buck. It seems that Premiere benefits significantly from more cores (we're editing 1440x1080 AVCHD), and this article over at Tom's Hardware has convinced me that I don't want to compromise with a hyperthreaded dual-core for After Effects.
I'm also struggling with what part the graphics card plays in the mix. Which applications lean on the graphics card, and will it make much difference as long as I meet the requirements (OpenGL 2.0, Shader Model 3.0, Direct3D 10, and 256 Mb Ram)?
I understand I will need to settle for less-than-awesome with my budget, but I'm already making sacrifices to get the number to $625. I would like to make sure that those sacrifices will be worth it for a quad-core system.

I think I may have answered my own question by looking at these charts over at Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS4 ,1404.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Photoshop-CS-4,1 387.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-After-Effec ts-CS5,2427.html
I think that the jump to the quad core in Premiere Pro is worth it, even if I don't see as large of an improvement in Photoshop or After Effects. I am still interested in the role of the graphics card in the mix if anyone can shed some light on that. Will an integrated graphics card (like an Intel GMA x4500 or Radeon HD4200) suffice or will I need an actual graphics card to realize the benefits?
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Premiere-After Effects Dynamic Link render times vary wildly after minimal composition changes

Here is something strange that happens a lot to me.
I'll have a sequence in Premiere Pro CC 2014 that is entirely or largely an AE comp that I have dynamically linked. I'll use a specific case as an example, but it's happened with various projects.
In this most recent one the visual (but not audio) of my Premiere sequence is one AE dynamically linked comp of about 90 seconds. It's more or less a fancy slide show- some photos with moves, some text, motion blur, masking, maybe a few filters. Fairly basic stuff as far as After Effects goes.
Anyhow, I like to render the sequence in Premiere and then watch it down with music to see if the timing works and make adjustments from there. That's my usual workflow. The strange thing is that when I render, the render times can vary tremendously. With this particular project, one time rendered in about 2 minutes in Premiere. I watched it down and I noticed a spelling error, which I fixed. Just changing one word of text in AE. This, of course, causes the entire linked comp to need to be rendered again in Premiere. This time when I go to render, it took about 20 minutes and it only got about 70% of the way through. A huge difference and all I changed was a couple letters, which shouldn't impact how intensive of a render is needed. What I usually do is cancel the render when it takes that long, then quit Premiere, reopen, and render right away after I open. When I do this, after the application restart, the sequence will then render in the faster approximately 2 minute duration. Almost invariably this is true.
So I end up quitting and restarting Premiere a lot to get the faster render times. But of course that's annoying.
What is going on here?
I know that some might have critiques of the workflow and watching in Premiere and the fact that one letter change forces the entire sequence re-render. I know I could break it up and there are ways around that. But I am not interested in such critiques. My work flow actually is quite efficient when the 2 minute render time happens. Just not when it takes 10x more than that for the same thing. Why are there these huge render time swings?
My guess is that some cache gets filled up, so when the application is just started, and the cache is empty, the render works much better. But I really do not know.
Help please.

There is currently a bug that causes Dynamic Link performance to be poor when the main After Effects application is running. (The underlying issue is that the main After Effects application is sending many more messages during Dynamic Link than it needs to.)
The easy workaround is to quit the main After Effects application when using Premiere Pro to process a dynamically linked After Effects composition.
This bug is fixed in an update due to be released in less than two weeks.

Looking to buy new MacBook Pro for editing with Premiere/After Effects, but wondering about trade-off between Processor Speed and Graphics Card

I'm a professional video editor (using Premiere and After Effects) looking to buy a new MacBook Pro and am deciding between two models. The slightly older model has a 2.8GHZ i7 (3rd generation) Quad Core processor with a 1GB SDRAM of NVIDIA GE FORCE GT 650M Graphics Card. Then newer model has a 2.3GHZ i7 (4th generation) Quad Core preocessor with 2GB SDRAM of NVIDIA GE FORCE 750M/Intel Iris Pro Graphics Card.
Which makes the most difference (processor speed vs. graphics card) with editing with Premiere and After Effects?
Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
mike

Poikkeus wrote:
1. Your MBP will be somewhat slower than your iMac, as reflected in the general speed; desktop Macs have more RAM and storage.
You recon? If he get's the 17", he would have up to 8x more RAM, 4 x more GPU,, and a bit faster CPU;.
2. Be aware of the advantages and disadvantages of extra RAM. Loading up the slot will make juggling multiple applications easier, like Photoshop, VLC, and Safari. However, more than 4gigs of RAM will make loading your MBP on startup twice as slow - at least a minute, probably longer. That's why a MBP user with extra RAM should sleep their machine nearly always when not in use, rather than powering off.
I did not know this, I just upgraded from 4gb to 8gb the other day. Have not noticed it being slower, but I don't often shut it down. It's nice to not even have to bother with ifreemem.
3. Additional storage and RAM will maximize the basic capabilities of your MBP, but you won't be able to make a 2.3ghz machine any faster than it already is.
SSD
4. I still feel that your iMac will be faster than your prospective MBP. The only way to dramatically increase the speed would be the installation of a SSD drive (like the lauded OWC series). But they're not cheap.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but want you to get a more realistic idea of your performance.
I chose a macbook pro, 17" of cause. I use it for gaming. Yes a iMac is better for gaming. But, it's nice to be able to move around. Set up a man cave in the lounge 1 week, or in the bedroom, the next. But you fork out a lot more dosh for that luxury. And yes, not as much power as Poikkeus has said.

Is the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M in the new MacBook Pro supported by Adobe for Premiere & After Effects

As the title states.
Is it worth getting the 15" MacBook Pro with the Nvidia graphics card over the 15" version without for use with both Premiere Pro & After Effects CC?
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Chrisstockwell wrote:
As the title states.
Is it worth getting the 15" MacBook Pro with the Nvidia graphics card over the 15" version without for use with both Premiere Pro & After Effects CC?
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Unfortunately, I've found that many of the users here are PC users. While they are helpful, it's rare to get anything beyond guesses for Adobe Premiere CC performance on Macs.
I've noticed that the list of "supported" GPU's is not updated all that much by Adobe. It took a while after last year's macs were released for that list to be updated with those GPUs. But the 750M has 2GB VRAM and pretty much any GPU with 1GB of VRAM or more can take advantage of the Mercury Playback Engine on Premiere CC (http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/06/adobe-premiere-pro-cc-and-gpu-support.html) With CS6, if your card isn't on the "list" you could add it using that hack that people talk about but you don't have to worry about that with CC as the above link explains.
While the regular 15" Macbook with the integrated graphics card is probably good enough to edit w/ Premiere CC, I don't think you'll be able to take advantage of any GPU acceleration because of the lack of a dedicated GPU with 1GB of VRAM. I am running Premiere CC on an iMac with an AMD GPU that isn't on the list, but does have 1GB of VRAM so I can take advantage of gpu accleration (however, while it's smoother than "software only", it definitely has it's REALLY annoying issues). I'm sure it'd be better with a newer NVIDIA card (from what I've read anyway) but like you, it's hard to get feedback from many people on these forums who use macs.
Hope this helps. I for one would go with the 750M. It's more $$$, but I'm guessing it'll be worth it. Just a guess though. I wish someone with that laptop (or even a 2013 iMac with similar GPU) would chime in with their thoughts.

Dynamic Link Premiere + After Effects - Encoder - Änderungen werden nicht übernommen.

Wenn man bereits eine Sequenz (welche eine AE-Komp. beinhaltet) mit dem Media Encoder exportiert hat und dann nachträglich nochmals Änderungen der Komp. in After Effects vornimmt und dann die Sequenz wieder per Premiere an den Media Encoder sendet, dann werden die After Effects Änderungen nicht berücksichtigt. Die After Effects Komposition innerhalb der exportierten Sequenz ist auf dem Stand des ersten Exports. In der Timeline wird sie aber richtig dargestellt. Wenn man direkt aus Premiere exportiert und nicht den Weg über den Encoder nimmt, funktioniert es auch.
Gibt es irgendwelchen temporären Dateien, die man löschen muss?

Leider kein Lösung, nur dass es hier bei mir genauso ist. Scheint leider ein Mangel am Programm zu sein, ansonsten würde ich ich auch über eine Lösung freuen. Hält schon auf, wenn ich jede Sequenz einzeln rendern muss.
Klar ich könnte das bei einzelnen Clips zur Not auch über den Media Encoder aus AE heraus machen, aber sinniger und besser wäre es schon wenn "dynamic link" auch wirklich dynamisch linken würde..

Premiere & After Effects - Can I Make A Film?

I have After Effects and Premiere CS3.
Is it possible to create comps in After Effects in the 2K or 4K size and edit them in Premiere, to be output to film later?
I have made plenty of cartoons with AE/Premiere that wound up on DVDs, but I have wondered if it is possible to use those programs to make a short film with film-sized resolution.
If not, for what application are the 2K & 4K comps intended?
Thanks!

Is it possible to create comps in After Effects in the 2K or 4K size and edit them in Premiere, to be output to film later?
Yes, perfectly. However, for that to be halfway painless, AE ideally needs to run on a 64bit operating system so it can take full advantage of the maximum addressable RAM (4GB on Windows, 3GB on Mac). And of course you will need a lot of processor power as well. The question also is, what you are going to output - true 2K/ 4K or just 24fps HD 1080. The latter is quite common to use for short films and commercials in cinemas these days. As for other tools - well, depends on what you do. Fusion and Nuke may offer more robust features in some areas, but e.g. if you work based on Flash files, they may not be all to helpful for your project since the won't handle SWFs natively. Likewise, going back and forth between Premiere and the comp app would not be as straightforward. It's really a mixed bag, but you should consider that these programs come from the world of movies where a per-shot based compositing approach is used and other features are predominant. This may not lend itself to what you plan on doing. also think about the day when you may need to get other people on board with regards whzat tools they use and how you exchange data as well as their specific skills. You may even find that your best buddy who so far has only been using Photoshop to draw background plates has a full Master collection and would be able to use AE and Premiere as well without hassle, so rather than shelving out more money for otehr tools, that may already swing the decision in a specific direction....
Mylenium

Premiere After Effects CS4 32-Bit Setup Error

After installing Creative Suite 5.5 Master Collection without a hitch I tried to install the 32 Bit version of Premiere and After Effects. Did not even get to entering my serial number. Immediately after "Checking System Profile" I received a Setup Error: "Setup has encountered an error and can not..." The only choice was to quit. I went online and downloaded the installer and tried again from my desktop. Same problem.

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