10.2.1 Recently Played smart playlist (bug)

Like most users, I often skip around from song to song before the song is finished. These songs used to be added automatically to the "Recently Played" smart playlist (set to Last played in the last 30 days, live updating).
I have noticed since 10.2.1 update, that a song must be fully played before being added to said playlist.
It is very time consuming to scrub through the entire song of each song you play to get it added to the recently played smart playlist.
Has anyone else noticed this?

Vicki:
You might like to have a quick gander at our discussion of the Smart Playlist issues...?
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=1514307#1514307
Kind regards,
Gopha.

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I read here that this was a problem back in 2005, but I'm only encountering it now with the latest iTunes upgrade. I noticed today that my Recently Played smart playlist did not update for all the songs I played today. It shows only 1 song played today, which I think I played through the computer/iTunes. All of the songs played on my ipod today are not being recognized as "recently played". This is affecting the majority of my other smart playlists because they mostly work on a "least recently played" or "least often played" idea.
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Vicki:
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http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=1514307#1514307
Kind regards,
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Normally, when I look at my Recently Played smart playlist, it shows songs that were played both on my computer and on my iPod (after I have synced it of course). I got a 5th generation Nano for Christmas, and ever since I have started using this iPod, the songs that I play on it no longer appear on my Recently Played smart playlist. I have searched this forum and tried everything people have suggested for similar problems (resetting the parameters of the smart playlist, etc.) and it's still not working.
I have the latest version of iTunes (since I know a lot of people were having problems when they upgraded) but I never had this problem with my old iPod nano. The reason this is so important to me is that I sync my Recently Played playlist with LastFM, and I also use it as the only playlist I have synced with my iPod (since I have too many songs to fit on it).
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Are you manually managing the contents of the Nano (i.e. drag and drop) or do you auto-sync? If you manually manage the Nano you can still have a "Sync" button in iTunes, but clicking it won't sync play history from the iPod if it is in manual mode.
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How do I add specific podcasts to the Recently Added Smart Playlist?

Well,
I guess the question is very self-explanatory, still; I subscribe to several podcast, most of them are news and I have a couple of them that are music that I'd like to add to the Recently Added Smart Playlist.
By default the this playlist has the criteria Media Kind is not Podcast, so when I specify a podcast it'll not appear and if I remove this criteria, all the podcasts will appear which of course I don't want. I could just specify every single podcast I don't want but the problem would be that I'd have to keep editing the playlist everytime I subscribe to a new one; a thing I don't feel very comfortable with.
I tried using subcriteria but the Media Kind is not Podcast just overrules everything I add afterwards.
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It is a mixed playlist and finally I came up with an answer; it might sound strange but I woke up from a nap with all correct settings figured out.
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Workround for Smart Playlist bug in iTunes 6.0.5

I'm using iTunes 6.0.5 on MacOS 10.2.8 (hence I can't upgrade iTunes to a later version 'cos my OS is too old).
When I try to use Smart Playlists, the program closes down whenever I create a Playlist featuring a date-type condition (like "Last Played") and change from "is" to something else (like "is not in the last" ... ). This seems to be a bug common whenever iTunes 6.0.5 is used on MacOS 10.2.8.
Is there any work-around for this problem? (The computing administrator here is unlikely to allow me to upgrade the OS just so that I can play music more conveniently!) If it were possible to make copies of Smart Playlists, then I might be able to adjust the standard "Recently Played".
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Workaround for iPhone smart playlist bug

There is a bug (do a search for smart playlist in this forum) with smart playlists not displaying the correct songs on the iPhone.
I just tried something that seems to have worked...
I have a playlist in iTunes called "Recently Added" which I want to keep synced with my iPhone.
I created a new smart playlist called "Recently Added (iPhone)". The playlist has one rule: "Playlist is Recently Added" with live updating checked.
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Excellent idea Jeff.
Your approach works for the same reason that my original idea works.
The inclusion of another playlist as a condition in a smart playlist, causes the playlist to become "rasterized" or static.
The developers wanted smart playlists to be really smart - instead of copying a static list of songs from the smart playlist to the iPhone/Pod, they simply send the definition of the playlist to the iPhone and let it calculate which songs from it's own library belong on it.
The nice thing about their approach is that the playlists will continue to live update on the Phone in-between syncs - so if you have a playlist called "Last 25 played" it will have the last 25 played songs on your iPhone, instead of the last 25 played songs that you played in iTunes.
The problem of course, is that there's a bug in the way the iPhone calculates these rules (probably related to the porting of code to a new architecture).
So why does this fix work?
Well, my theory is that when you create a smart playlist that references another playlist, iTunes simply calculates the songs that should appear on the smartplaylist and sends a literal list to the iPhone/Pod.
This solves the problem that would be created if you only sync the parent playlist, and not the playlists it references. (IE, if you would want to be able to sync the "25 most played" playlist without also having to sync the "MusicOnly" playlist).

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Playing smart playlist by release date on Shuffle

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Create a playlist and add the podcasts you want to
it. The order you add them to the list will be the
order they play in. If you mix this order up, just
click on the far left bar above the track numbers to
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in order by release date, if you drag a group of
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order.
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Yeap, I've been meaning to reply. This workaround does work for me. It's not perfect, but it's easy enought to create a new playlist called 'podcasts" and dragging and dropping the latest podcasts in it, and then manually syncing it to the ipod.
Of course I have to do the same for videos too.
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Anyone else having this problem? My music library consists of primarily contemporary Christian music. I attempted to set a Smart Playlist that would auto update music selections in two genres of music, "Gospel" and "Gospel & Religious" as per the album tags that were associated with the selections I wanted. iTunes won't do it - I end up with only the selections that are tagged with the "Gospel & Religous" genre, it will not include the selections tagged "Gospel" in the Smart Playlist.
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That's not a bug, RuRod. It's what we refer to as a "feature". ; - )
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or
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Genre is Gospel
+
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ok. trying now.
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unplugged ipod.
went to most played.
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I know it used to work, on my old (3G?) iPod and some older firmware. Now it's broken.
All I want to be able to do is check my iPhone after a run, look on the device and see "what song played a couple of minutes ago?"
But the "Recently Played" playlist doesn't update on-the-fly like it used to. Instead, it's looking like I have to go back to my computer, and sync, in order to have the information sent back to the computer, and then the "Recently Played" playlist in iTunes shows what played on the iPod.
But that stinks.
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I've tried these workarounds but they don't seem to work (on any current iPod.)
Lots of discussion regarding Smart Playlist synching on the iPhone here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1067876
...but none of the suggested workarounds seem to working for me.
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1) synching the results of a smart playlist from iTunes to the iPod
2) updating of smart playlists, on-the-fly, on the iPod itself
#1 is working for me. It's #2 I'm having no success with, and I'm wondering if Apple just abandoned the feature when it broke.
To reiterate. Leave the computer out of the equation for a moment. All I want is a "Recently Played" smart playlist that updates on-the-fly on the iPhone, no synching required. Is this not possible?
If not, that's a step backwards. It used to work on older iPods.

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I've tried these workarounds but they don't seem to work (on any current iPod.)
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1067876
...but none of the suggested workarounds seem to working for me.
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1) synching the results of a smart playlist from iTunes to the iPod
2) updating of smart playlists, on-the-fly, on the iPod itself
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=190331&tstart=0
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From Article 301910 in Apple's Knowledge Base Smart Playlists stop updating dynamically on iPod
If you have an iPod with a Click Wheel, Smart Playlists may stop updating dynamically after you update your iPod with iPod Updater 2005-06-26 or later. For example, if you rate a song on your iPod, the rating appears, but that same song won't appear in a Smart Playlist based on the same rating on your iPod. But this can happen with a Smart Playlist based on any criteria.
Use the iPod Updater 2006-01-10 or later to resolve this.
Note: This issue does not affect iPod nano or Fifth Generation iPod.
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For more detail, see this discussion thread over at iPodLounge.
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10.2.1 Recently Played smart playlist (bug)

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