10.3.9 Security Update 2007-008 Wireless Sleep issue

Hi,
had a good search around the forum and this webpage but still having a new problem with my iBook G3 OS 10.3.9 (Yes I know it is old, its grand for general webpage browsing at home ) and my Netopia (Eircom) WPA Wireless modem.
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2005093011343164
Same old story, iBook has been working fine on Wireless since 2003 (inc previous version of 10.3) but the moment I finally added Security Update 2007-008 (10.3.9?) the automatic connecting to my home Wireless network doesn't work anymore
Every time I startup (or iBook goes to sleep)I have to go into the Airport icon and click on the network name. This has never happened before.
On Googleing this problem it seems it was never resolved by Apple?
If I could I would go back a Security Level to what I had before but not sure if this is an option? Auto-connect worked every time previously, much faster than my brand new Dell Laptop for work
Tiger 10.4 isnt really an option either due to it being a lowly G3 600mhz iBook.
Removed Airport2.kext files
Removed and re-established Network connection/Password
Removed plist files
and most of the other things on that webpage to no avail. If anyone has any ideas that would be great. Wireless Router is fine as I have a Work PC that connects automatically to it without any problem.
Cheers
Mick

Hi,
On my 15" PB, with Panther, and all the updates that came from Apple, I have tried a few ways to create what you describe; letting it go to sleep on it's own, putting it to sleep under the Apple Menu, using my screen 'corner' and Moused it to sleep... all come back alive with wireless already on with the proper network.
My set-up Location is tagged to 'Automatic'; in System Preferences > Network with 'Automatic' as the Location, and 'Network Port Configuration' as the Show... Airport is the TOP item on the lower window, and it is 'checked'.
If Airport is not on the top, the computer looks first for a connection in say the 'ethernet' (if that is the top item) until it times out and then it looks in the next one down. You could test this by leaving it alone and see how long it takes to find it... assuming you do have it 'checked' in the Port selections. To move those selections around, just click-and-drag to the location you want the order in.
If you have some thing different here, let us know. We will go from there.

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