10.4.4 G5 Freeze Problem (and Resolution)

Hi all, I had a major problem with 10.4.4 that I just worked out. I figured it may help someone else to post my experience. After updating from 10.4.3 to 10.4.4 on my Dual 2.3 G5 (stock configuration save for the ATI x850), I encountered a problem in which the machine would lock completely after between 5 and 30 minutes of use. The cursor would freeze in place and any audio the machine was playing would fall into a half-second loop. The only resolution was to force reboot the machine. I first assumed that I had a software problem, as the hard drive's SMART check seemed to rule out a dying drive, so I performed an erase and install (followed by an immediate update to 10.4.4 via software update). Same problem. Next I mounted the drive in Target mode on my Powerbook and ran Diskwarrior, which gave me a "damage is too severe to repair" error. At this point I assumed I was facing a hard drive failure. I replaced the drive, re-installed OSX (and again immediately updated to 10.4.4 via software update), and re-encountered the problem. It finally occured to me that all this began after the 10.4.4 update. I went ahead and downloaded to 10.4.4 combined update (http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosxupdate1044.html) and ran it. Bam, problem resolved.
If you're having issues with 10.4.4, I highly suggest that you give this step a try before you erase and install. I wish I'd realized the source of the problem before performing two erase and installs and replacing a drive, I've just gotten far too trusting that Apple's OS updates will be trouble free. That will be the last time I ever update within 30 days of an update's release.
Also, ATi Radeon x850 owners should be especially cautious with 10.4.4-- I've spoken to a few people who have had no problems on machines identical to mine save for the video card. I don't know anyone else with a x850 in a dual 2.3, so I don't know if this is a widespread problem or just happenstance.
I hope all this saves someone from what I just went through, that was an expensive and unpleasant little saga.
G5 Dual 2.3, Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

I have not had a problem yet so far today but it's not like I had the probably everyday... There definately seems to be a pattern here though I as have NEVER had anything like this until installing 10.4.4.
Last night I was listening to iTunes via Airport Express through my stereo and all the sudden the sounds starts to sputter. I came over to the G5 and I see the spinning ball/cursor. For no more than frustration, I click along the dock and try to lauch other apps just to see if I can get a reaction - 10 seconds later, everything just freezes - prior to that I had 4 or more app icons bouncing as if they were about to open. No AppleOptonEsc = nothing - hard freeze. I have the screen saver disabled so it's not like some kind of activity was kicking in that would cause a conflict... I was just listening to music like I often do.
I don't accept this is a memory, motherboard h/w issue. There is something about 10.4.4 for my machine that has increased CPU utilization and causes these hard freezes everyday or so. I've switched drives and done a complete fresh install like 4 times now. I've had OS X since it came out in beta and honestly, this is the first revision that has caused this kind of issue. Guess I've been lucky up to now. I'll ride it out and see what else I can point a finger at.
Thanks for posting what you thought was a potential fix!
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