10.4.6 now G5 running hot

Since upgrading to 10.4.6 I'm now finding that after using my dual 2 gig G5 for a couple of hours the fan will arc up and just keep going. Not doing anything particularly processor intensive. Have even shut all applications down and waited with no change. Have also tried resetting the PMU, which also made no difference.
Anyone else with a similar problem? Any suggestions appreciated.

I agree that safety is always a good policy but in the case of emptying
cache files I wouldn't worry about it. Installing a brand new OS effectively
us emptying your cache and I've never lost data that way either.
I do have all my files backed up to DVD and it's updated on a regular basis as
well so that also explains my somewhat cavalier attitude.

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              1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
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    Disk Information:
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                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 255.2 GB (169.85 GB free)
                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
              MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868
    USB Information:
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              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
              Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
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    Thunderbolt Information:
    Kernel Extensions:
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    Problem System Launch Agents:
    Launch Daemons:
              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
              [loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
              [loaded] com.bombich.ccc.plist
              [loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
              [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
    Launch Agents:
              [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
              [loaded] com.extensis.FMCore.plist
              [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
    User Launch Agents:
              [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
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    User Login Items:
              iTunesHelper
              Dropbox
    3rd Party Preference Panes:
              Flash Player
    Internet Plug-ins:
              AdobePDFViewer.plugin
              Default Browser.plugin
              Flash Player.plugin
              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
              googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin
              iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
              npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin
              o1dbrowserplugin.plugin
              QuickTime Plugin.plugin
              SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
    User Internet Plug-ins:
    Bad Fonts:
              None
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              Auto backup: YES
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              Destinations:
                        Time Machine Backup [Local] (Last used)
                        Total size: 749.81 GB
                        Total number of backups: 1
                        Oldest backup: 2013-11-20 14:15:59 +0000
                        Last backup: 2013-11-20 14:15:59 +0000
                        Size of backup disk: Adequate
                                  Backup size 749.81 GB > (Disk used 85.35 GB X 3)
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              All volumes being backed up may not be listed.
    Top Processes by CPU:
                   3%          firefox
                   3%          WindowServer
                   2%          EtreCheck
                   0%          fontd
                   0%          mtmd
                   0%          Dropbox
                   0%          mdworker
                   0%          Finder
                   0%          aosnotifyd
    Top Processes by Memory:
              344 MB   firefox
              70 MB    Dropbox
              49 MB    Finder
              49 MB    mds_stores
              41 MB    Dock
              37 MB    WindowServer
              33 MB    FMCore
              29 MB    ocspd
              29 MB    mds
              29 MB    com.apple.IconServicesAgent
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              1.91 GB  Free RAM
              1.08 GB  Active RAM
              268 MB   Inactive RAM
              508 MB   Wired RAM
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