10.4.6 update kills G4 iBooks :S

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I installed 10.4.6 on my G4 1.33MHz iBook and was subsequently unable to boot. I managed to install a new system using my Tiger install disk but I had to delete a bunch of stuff using target dusk mode to make room first. Thank goodness I had another mac to hand.
Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether my disk being pretty full before doing the install could be connected: in the past I've been told I can't install software that Software update finds cos I've only had 300MB for example.
ie, is it worth trying again now there's more room I wonder, or am I better just waiting for some future less glitchy release?

I don't know where Apple says keeping that amount of free space. But having managed many a Mac OS X system in the past, I've noticed significant increase in file swapping when the hard disk becomes more than 85% full, slowing down the machine. In addition, the probability that any program which needs large contiguous sections of space (i.e. a software update that is 140 MB I would consider one of those), will have that much less chance of seeing it when the hard drive is near capacity, says, that installing an upgrade with too little free space is not advisable, based on logic. Not necessarily on official recommendations. Finder file copying significantly slows down when one tries to copy files on an overfull hard drive, as well as Spotlight searching.
Finally, until 10.3.9, the entire free space needed to create a DVD or CD was mirrored in the Finder when you created one. While that has improved with 10.4, as only aliases are necessary, it still is not a RAM based burning operation like some third party burners.
There are all these reasons why you shouldn't let your hard drive get too full. The breaking point may vary depending on the health of your hard drive, and the kinds of files you access frequently. Larger files are more sensitive to lack of free space as the built-in defragmentation of the operating system is limited to some amount under 100 MB (I don't know what it is, but it is something you may be able to look up). Yes, I wish the Finder was more proactive about telling you how much free space is not enough with something more than more frequent spinning beachballs which you have to diagnose. But suffice it to say, 10.4.6 is quite a stable update, and it is just contributing factors which may break it, like insufficient disk space. I suggest people who are having trouble with 10.4.6, read my FAQ on upgrading:
http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html
and backing up
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
Disclaimer: Reference to links I make to my Macmaps.com website are a for your information only type reference. I do not get any profit from this page, and it is open to the public.

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Last edited by Harey (2011-11-12 16:10:48)

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