10.4.9 causes PowerMac G5 to freeze

After the update to 10.4.9 (which went smooth), my G5 freezes up after a couple of hours (between 3-4). I have taken it off sleep mode, installed the combi update, rebooted, and it still does the same.
I don't know what is causing this, but I have seen similar reports on the forum.
Doe anyone have an idea what is causing this freeze. I have a 1TB Maxtor OneTouch III Turbo edition attached. Could this maybe be the cause of the freezing (I have taken that one out of sleep mode as well, doesn't help).
My G5 is always on, and the moment I updated to 10.4.9, this problem is present. It looks like a driver issue to me, no hardware.
My Powerbook G4 en Macbook Black are still functioning just fine with 10.4.9.
Any insights will be appreciated!

Where is your Tiger install package?
Although running fsck is an alternative, it is best to run Disk First Aid repair via Disk Utility when booted from your Tiger install disc on your boot volume which should always be performed before installing a major OS update such as 10.4.9.
Did you do either before installing the 10.4.9 update? I'll venture to say you did not since a problem would have been reported that should have prevented you from installing the update until the problem was successfully resolved.
Do you have and maintain a backup and did you update your backup immediately before installing 10.4.9?
A reported "keys out of order" is a major directory problem that was not caused by the 10.4.9 update but the process of installing the update brought this underlying problem to the surface.
Any problem reported by DFA repair that cannot be successfully repaired after running it several times means the reported problem is significant so your options are purchasing a more substantial disk repair utility such as DiskWarrior (with no guarantee that DW can resolve it but DW has been known to work miracles) or reformat your hard drive HFS+ (or extended) with Journaling enabled instead of an erase and install only which also completely erases the drive.
Disk First Aid repair cannot repair a reported "keys out of order" problem.
If you don't maintain a backup at all, you are in a bind. If you have access to another Mac that supports being connected to another Mac via Firewire Target Disk mode, you can connect to the other Mac via this mode to try to recover and transfer the existing data in your boot volume.

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1. Check the errors related to Spotlight by opening Console, which is an utility app that you can find in the Applications>Utilities folder. Do you see error messages for "mdworkers"? It does not always show up before the freeze, but this may indicate some problems during Spotlight indexing.
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