10.5.1 and Airport disks

Airport disk under 10.5 was flaky at best. Now under 10.5.1 I can't open the disk attached to my AEBS at all. I can see the disk but clicking on it fails to open it.
I've rebooted everything. I reset the AirPort base station. I've turned the firewall off. File sharing on, off. It did work under 10.5 with an occasional dropout. And under 10.4 it "Just Works"

Same problem at my end. No problems at all with 10.4. But since 10.5 and 10.5.1 sometimes I see the disks, sometimes I can open one. But most of the times after opening, I loose connection with all of them. They do not show on the desktop either, only in finder. This is very annoying and I am considering to go back to 10.4. I am lucky, my MacBook Pro is 1,5 weeks old. I have both 10.4 and a Leopard upgrade disk to work with . However going back will be a lot of work. And Leopard should work as a minimum with Apple products would be my standpoint. And that is all I am using.
I am really curious when a solution will come. This seems a very systemic issue looking at all the discussions around this topic.

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Conflict between VPN and Airport disk

Hello Folks, I just bought a brand new airport extreme 802n.
I thought it would be working fine with my Macbook pro, but it doesn't.
I can't access any externe hard disk or USB Stick through the airport extreme, although the format is FAT32. I checked and checked but found nothing useful. All the settings are default.
Worth to mention, I always use a cisco VPN client to get connected to the Internet (university student).
There are few times when I disconnected the VPN Client, the USB Client can be found and read, but not be written.
I though it is a conflict between VPN and Airport disk. So I tried without VPN, but the USB stick and the extern hard disk still didn't work properly. I have no idea what is happening could somebody help?
By the way is it possible to set Airport extreme as a VPN router so I don't have to use the cisco VPN client anyway?
Any reply is appreciated
Thank you !

I have an Airport Extreme connected to a cable modem
with comcast as my isp. The Extreme is connected to
a G4 dual processor mac via ethernet. I also have 3
airport expresses around the house to work as range
extenders. When I had the G4 connect to the Extreme
via its internal airport card, I had no difficulty
connecting to any of the Expresses around the house
with my g4 powerbook. Now that I have the G4 Dual
directly connected by ethernet to get the fastest
speed, I cannot get my expresses or my laptop to
connect through my laptop to the base station. all
lights are green on the expresses, but running
network diagnostics on the powerbook shows red or
yellow for the last two buttons on the right. Do I
have a configuration problem or an Extreme that won't
bridge properly?
Check that the G4 Dual has a location configured with
only "Built-In Ethernet" activated, and that its
Ethernet connection isn't shared on AirPort.
Turn off all your AX and check that your
PB G4 is able to connect to "your" AirPort network.
Take advantage of this silence of all your AX
to run an analysis of your wireless environnement:
- check that you don't have any neighbor wireless
network,
- check that on each of your AX settlement you have a
very good reception of "your" AirPort network.
If everything works fine to that point, add one AX to
your network, and check the reachability of your network
where you wanted to extend it.
dan

Backing up with Time Machine via "Personal File Sharing" and Airport Disk

I've been using Time Machine on my own Mac at home and want to use it to backup other Macs in my house as well. Right now I'm just backing up over FireWire, but plugging my disk into each of the other Macs one at a time doesn't seem to make much sense.
Besides going out and buying a Time Capsule, Leopard Server, or Xsan, what are my options for backing up multiple Macs to one disk? I've read that using an Airport disk is somewhat risky because of some "premature file transfer confirmation." Has anyone ever used Time Machine w/ Airport Disk and had problems?
I've also noticed that you can back up to shared drives, like if I share my current FireWire disk so people can back up to it, but wouldn't that require for people to connect to the host Mac manually via Finder? And wouldn't that in turn defeat the purpose of automatic scheduled backups?
Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

the only supported option besides Time Capsule is to back up to a hard drive directly connected to a mac running leopard on the same local network. as you mention it would indeed require that this drive be mounted first. you can automate mounting this drive on login and simply keep it mounted at all times. to do that mount the drive of the host Mac on a remote mac and while it's mounted there add it to the login items in system preferences->accounts.
You can also use drives directly attached to an airport extreme base station. that works in the same way as backups to a Time capsule.
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Leopard and Airport Disk with accounts

Question:
Has anyone have the latest firmware update on the AEBS-N and with Leopard OS with Airport Disk accounts working?
If you have downgrade firmware on AEBS-N with Airport disk set up with accounts how are you making it work?
At this time I am only getting my hard drive and not accounts showing on left sidebar.
The only way I been able to change accounts if I do a manual "connect to server" (alt-K). First I eject the shared drive on the left sidebar. Then click Alt and K key at the same time and typed in one of my accounts and password in. There must be a better way.
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I have done that, but my problem is not that I cannot see my connected drive it is when I create accounts it still only shows the shared folder on that connected drive. So, I created two password protected accounts "A" and "B" and then there is a shared folder. Now prior to leopard when I was connected I would be able to see the shared folder and my respective folder, "A". Now when I connect I only see the share drive. This is a problem because I have two users in my household and I want to back information to each respective accounts/password protected folders but that is not happening because all we see is the shared folder.
What I saw prior on my drive connected to AEBS. A "SHARED" folder, "USERS" folder which contained the separate folders/accounts created through AEBS.
Now all I see is the "SHARED" folder.

Airport Extreme (last generation) and Airport disk

Simple quesion (I hope)...
does anyone know if one can do airport disk with a last generation (802.11g) AEBS?
Thanks,
Bill

Afraid not. The USB port on that generation is for printer share only.

Extended network setup with printer and airport disk

The network I want looks like this: The modem plugs into Airport Express using ethernet. Audio plugs in here to go to the stereo for music. Then the signal is sent wirelessly to an Airport Extreme in the other room, which has a printer and a hard drive connected to it.
I can't get the Extreme to stop flashing yellow. I tried extending the network created by the Express. I tried a WDS network with Express as main and Extreme as remote. Same network name, different network names, factory resets...I seem to be at a loss. I had an older "Snow" type Airport and I had the printer working on it (though it didn't support hard drives). I can't seem to duplicate the steps I took when I set up that network.
Thank you for any help you may be able to offer.

Tim,
It would help to know which AirPort Extreme, 802.11b/g or n, and Fast Ethernet versus Gigabit, and Express (b/g or n) devices you have.
Also, if you have any of the newer 802.11n AirPort devices, make sure that you update the firmware and AirPort Utility software.
If you're trying to setup a WDS, that's for 802.11g and if you're trying to "extend" a network, that for 802.11n.
Hope this helps.

TV, extreme and airport disk

Choosing export settings for TV is doing my head in. I have a substantial home movie library which consists of .dv files which I had also encoded as AVC in a .mov format using QT Pro.
Just before the TV came out I decided that my movies looked better done in mpegstreamclip with AVC as .m4p. So I trashed my .mov collection and started building a .mp4 library. Now my TV has arrived I have discovered my streamclip exports don't work with TV and I have struggled to get any output from streamclip that will.
I have since tried the TV preset for QT Pro and whilst the movies encoded this way do work with TV they don't appear to be deinterlaced which makes them poor quality on high motion action.
So now I seem to be re encoding everything in the same format as I originally trashed and have also now discovered I can't change the artwork of a .mov file in itunes, so I have yet to find something I am satisfied with.
Any one any ideas, what are you guys using for converting .dv for TV.

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Airport Disk problems

There seem to be a lot of threads going on about connectivity problems regarding disks connected to Airport Extreme base stations. This http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1155412 is probably the biggest. Since this really is a large issue, I thought I'll post a report of my findings.
Today was the first time I encountered the fact that I couldn't connect from my iMac G5 to my Airport Disk anymore , Finder gave me the following message:
+*Connection failed*+
+The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and your network connection and try again.+
I went to my MacBook pro (waking from sleep) and it gave me the same message.
Restarting the Airport Extreme brought my disk back on my Macs.
I simulated this scenario, to see where it was failing:
*Case 1: let macbook pro sleep*
1. Fresh reboot of Airport
2. Mount disk on all macs and one windows xp machine
3. Put MacBook Pro to sleep (disk still working on other mac)
4. Wake MacBook Pro
5. Everything still works on all machines
*Case 2: let imac sleep*
1. Fresh reboot of Airport
2. Mount disk on all macs
3. Put iMac G5 to sleep
4. Wake up iMac G5
5. Disk doesn't work on Macs (AFP), but still works on windows machine (SMB)
In last scenario it looks like the AFP service on the Airport Extreme Base Station crashed. You can manually check this by doing this in Finder menu: *Go -> Connect to server*.
And type this:
afp://ip.of.your.basestation/ (you can find the ip of your basestation via airport utility)
You will get an "Connection failed", that means the server is not responding. At this point you can still connect to the Airport Disk via the SMB protocol. In the Finder menu: *Go -> Connect to server*
And type this:
smb://ip.of.your.basestation/
Use your username and password and you'll be able to connect to the airport disk.
Another way to check if the AFP service is still running on the airport, is to use an portscanner. You can use the one provided by apple in Network Utility. I used nmap.
After a fresh restart the following ports were opened:
21/tcp open ftp
53/tcp open domain
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
445/tcp open microsoft-ds
*548/tcp open afpovertcp*
554/tcp open rtsp
7070/tcp open realserver
10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
After waking the iMac from sleep the following ports were opened:
21/tcp open ftp
53/tcp open domain
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
445/tcp open microsoft-ds
554/tcp open rtsp
7070/tcp open realserver
10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
You can see that there is no AFP server (afpovertcp) listening on the Airport anymore.
I have the following setup:
MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2,33 Ghz
Mac OS X 10.5.1 (fresh install)
iMac G5 2,1Ghz
Mac OS X 10.5.1 (upgraded from 10.4.11)
Airport Extreme Basestation (fast ethernet)
- 802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)
- wpa2 personal
- file sharing with accounts
- no guest access allowed
Currently the only workaround I found, is by using the SMB protocol. (Finder -> Go -> Connect to server). This works on all machines, even after waking from sleep.
The problem as far as I can see is twofold:
1. AFP service on Airport Extreme Basestation is buggy, it justs crashes after it recieves info it doesn't expect.
2. Leopard sends stuff It shouldn't send.
Tiger never had this problem.

My AEBS network, internet connection and Airport Disk are all (finally) holding connections. It's been about a day now, so I guess it's going to be ok next week.
Here's some of my story/thoughts in case this helps anyone else who is still struggling with the madness:
First, I bought a TC and connected a USB disk. This was a cacophony of dropped connections, followed by the messages Frodo posted, lost internet connections, etc. A lot of resets, channel changes, restarts, two reformatting of the Airport Disk (via hardwire connection to one of my computers and then reconnecting it to the AEBS), etc. etc. later, I returned the TC for an exchange and bought a simple AEBS and connected that to the Airport Disk.
Same sort of problems again, but this time I don't usually lose my internet or network connection. New problems enter - glacial speed on some/most computers and ok on others. The Airport Disk keeps disappearing and can't reconnect. More restarts.
This is what seems to be working now:
I have every single client computer set to never sleep and that includes turning off the "Put HD to sleep when possible" button. I also set my WPA2 Personal timeout to 500 days. The default is 1 hr. Also, I took the Airport Disk down and connected it to a computer and ran Disk Utility. Found a header problem and fixed it. Followed that with Disk Warrior. More problems, this time an assortment. DW fixed those. Then reconnected the Airport Disk to the AEBS. Now it all works.
I did a bit of reading on WPA2 on Wikipedia and it turns out this scheme sends out some sort of key to the client computers and does it dynamically as the network is up. (This might explain the "unexpected ACL" message I was getting in Disk Utility when checking client computers - there are 3 of them. I assume these are an Access Control List generated by my AEBS; I certainly didn't put them there). Anyway, I got to wondering if the AEBS is trying to generate a new key for the 'group' that hat connected to it and since one or more of the 'group' has nodded off, it is unable to do so and this results in the lost connection followed by 'not operational' message. Maybe it thinks it was being hacked?
Anyway, with both those settings my network is stable, internet is stable and the Airport Disk has been mounted on various desktops now since yesterday. I'll worry about faster speeds later. None o my computers will sleep until an update is released. They don't mind. I have no inclination to spend any more hours fighting with this thing.
FYI, I have eight 10.5.2 computers and three 10.4.11. They are all happy this morning - although for a time yesterday the 10.4.11 client computers were real slow. I shut those down for a while last evening and concurrently changed to Channel 9. I'm using the 802.11n (b/g compatible) setting and I know that is in the 2.4 frequency, which is pretty crowded these days. I think the higher channels are probably less crowded. Anyway, the 10.4.11 computers were ok when restarted last evening and are still ok this morning. All connections held. Ditto for the 10.5.2 clients.
I don't know where the faults came from with the Airport Disk (fixed as described above yesterday), but I do know I did not "Disconnect All Users" in Airport Utility before resetting/restarting the AEBS while the Airport Disk was connected and (perhaps) still shared despite the dropped connection messages. I'm not even sure that disconnect button was available since I never looked.
Wheew!
Not sure what I'm going to do when the replacement TC arrives. It's a heckuv'n idea and I hate to walk away without at least another trip into the twilight zone. I've lost files before and would have been SOOoooo happy to be able to fish back in time to find them.

Time Machine - Airport Disk Hangs after installing 10.5.6 update

The 10.5.6 update basically made my Time Capsule and Airport Disk connected to the Time Capsule unusable. I've repaired the permissions as suggested in other posts - this did not fix the problem.
I was unable to perform any incremental backups initially after the 10.5.6 update, so I archived my sparsebundle and created a new one by doing a full fresh backup - which completed successfully. However, after the backup, I was unable to connect to the Time Capsule or the USB drive connected to the Time Capsule via Finder - when trying to connect my computer hangs and I'm forced to do a hard restart of BOTH my computer AND the Time Capsule, if I just restart one or the other the problem persists. If I let the connection attempt run long enough I get an "Error Code: -8072" message and still have to do a hard restart. After the hard restart of my computer and Time Capsule I'm able to connect to the Time Capsule and the USB drive connected to Time Capsule just fine. However, once the backup runs again - the same problem returns, I can no longer access the Time Capsule or the USB drive connected to Time Capsule and have to do a hard restart of BOTH my computer AND Time Capsule. This 10.5.6 update has been havoc, anyone have the same troubles or ideas for resolving this. Before updating to 10.5.6 my system was working flawlessly with Time Capsule and the connected USB drive.

You might to well to repost in the TimeCapsule forum here:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1253
where such issues are regularly dealt with

Airport Disk still broken after latest software update

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1244463
I like how the topic above was marked as 'solved' and archived. Another Airport software has come and gone and Airport disks are still broken. Mine let me copy 74GB of data to it, but refuses to show the contents via the USB port. Anyone had any luck with this after the latest software update?

I have had similar issues since upgrading to Snow Leopard. The first time, I took my MacBook to be checked and the tech said it booted up fine under another startup disk. Since it's under warranty, they just reloaded the original system (Leopard) and I needed to rely on a time machine backup. Now, after the latest software update from Apple, I had the same problem, and am restoring from the latest Time Machine backup.
Does anyone know if this is a systemic problem? Any tips on preventing a repeat the next time I need to update my system software?
Thanks.
-- Al

No Airport Disks Found but they are there!

I've a 500GB Lacie BigDisk Extreme connected via USB to my Airport Extreme (7.3.2) which is configured to allow file sharing. I've tried various combinations "WIth a disk password" and "With Airport Extreme password" and allowing guest read and write access, but I can't see it on any of our Macs and Airport Disk Utility sees the airport extreme but reports "No airport disks found".
I'm not sure if it's relevant, but connection sharing for the Airport Extreme is Off (Bridge Mode) because it's attached to an ADSL router - aside from that the setup is mostly default. DIrect connection with the disk to the Macs works fine, but defeats the object of having a shared external drive attached to the Extreme, and also as it's formatted using MacOS format I can't easily connect it to my PC's.
I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Hi All,
not sure if it helps but after spending a day looking at all posts on this subject and trying all manner of things I finally stumbled on to a solution that worked for me.
Basically I just 'Restored Default Settings' on my Airport Extreme and as soon as I had, my disk appeared! Having spent all day trying to get it to work, this was a major achievement and so simple I didn't think of it until last.
Nowhere within the discussions did I see a mention of this, so thought I should record it in case in can help someone else with this issue.
R

How do I set up Airport Extreme Airport Disk as Central Media Storage when I have Directv, Windows and Mac needing access?

I have an always on PC in my living room, but I want the macbook pro to have the same media without taking up the space. iTunes Shared lacks the sorting features of having the library directly associated. What I want to do is setup a hard drive on my AEBS to house all my media.
I have a 120GB SSD on my PC in the LR. (with an 80GB drive I may put with it for extra space if needed)
A 250GB MBP
A 2TB drive (installed in a USB/eSATA enclosure)
A 1TB drive
A 500GB usb WD Passport
I use iTunes for Movies, Music, Podcasts
I use Picasa for Pictures
I want to house these large libraries on the AEBS Airport Disk and have the MBP and PC access the media. I ideally want iTunes to identify that as the iTunes Media Library for both the MBP and PC. I haven't found a good run down of how this would work. Especially since I want to make sure Directv can access the media as well as the PC and MBP.
I will store all my media on the 2TB, I will use the 1TB to backup all the media in a safe, and the 500GB I want to split for Time Machine and Windows backup. With all my media off those drives, 500GB should be enough space to keep backups for a while to restore programs and what not from.
Thanks for any help.

I want to house these large libraries on the AEBS Airport Disk and have the MBP and PC access the media. I ideally want iTunes to identify that as the iTunes Media Library for both the MBP and PC. I haven't found a good run down of how this would work.
Please check out the following TUAW article to see if it will help provide some additional details.
I will store all my media on the 2TB, I will use the 1TB to backup all the media in a safe, and the 500GB I want to split for Time Machine and Windows backup.
You may want to revisit your strategy to using an AirPort Disk for Time Machine backups and that is because Apple does not support this. If your backups are critical to you, then I would strongly recommend that you reconsider using another destination source option.

Airport Extreme - problem with usb printer and usb disk

I have Airport extreme with firmware 7.1. I try connect usb disk and usb printer with usb-hub to airport. I can't get disk or printer working. Also try connect only disk or printer without usb-hub to airport getting same problem. How I get disk and printer working with wireless network (windows pc computers)?
1)
My printer is HP PSC 1210 all-in-one ( http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=90764&lc=fi&cc=fi&dlc=fi&lang =fi&cc=fi&y=0&x=0 )
- printer seems working fine after installing bonjour printer installing wizard.
- I get error (in windows) when I try print document from word. Error only says "error printing" in status value.
- In airport utility all seems ok. Airport see usb printer "Hewlett-Packard psc 1200 series"
- printer protocol is RAW and driver manufacture HP (also try with microsoft driver)
2)
USB disk is Targa Databox II 250
- Airport utility says "Disk needs repair. Errors were found with a disk connected to your airport base station. please connect the usb disk to your mac or pc and use disk utility or another disk application to repair the disk"
- I have connected Targa usb disk to windows pc and run scandisk and defreg. No errors found in windows. Result..no help for airport

I have a similar problem to your second issue. Tried connecting a Netdisk to the USB port of the Airport Extreme and it also said there was a problem with the disk. Have performed a low level format on the disk and Airport Extreme still complained the disk had a problem.
After unplugging the disk, my route decided to stop allowing wireless connections even after rebooting. Ended up having to hard reset the Airport Extreme and reconfigure it with my old settings to work again.
FWIW, the first Airport Extreme I purchased today only worked on 802.11a and steadfastly refused to work on b/g so had to get a replacement. I suspect Apple's quality control is not quite as good as it used to be.

HT1331 "AirPort Disk Utility" no longer exists in 10.7 Lion (and possibly hasn't existed since 10.5).

I think this article is misleading, it seems that "AirPort Disk Utility" no longer exists in 10.7 Lion (and possibly hasn't existed since 10.5).

Good luck, I've treid with this one:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4635
Notice how outdated it still is. Not only that, but how it's got wrong info, like 1st Gen Express Model #.
Maybe you got more weight than I do...

ITunes Library on an Airport Disk? Read and write from multiple Macs?

OK, I've scoured the forums for an answer to this, but haven't found anything definitive. Apologies if I've missed the answer, but here's what I want to know:
I have an iMac as a primary computer, plus a Mac Mini hooked up to my entertainment system, and my girlfriend's powerbook in the house too. There seem to be two main iTunes options: either constantly try to keep all three iTunes libraries synchronised by running around importing files, etc.; or just keep one library, and share it over the network.
Right now, I am keeping my iTunes library on my iMac and sharing it with the Mac Mini and the powerbook. If anyone wants to add music (or other content) to the library, it has to be through the iMac. Obviously the iMac has to be on for any other computer to access the shared library.
I want to try to make things simpler by having a single "network" iTunes library that all computers to be able to share (read AND write). I envisage having this "iTunes Server" on an external HD connected to my Airport Extreme as an Airport Disk. If I move the entire contents of ~/music/iTunes (including artwork, library files, etc) to this central location, will the three Macs be able to deal with this, ie can multiple computers share an iTunes library database on an airdisk? Will I be able to stream content from this library to all three computers? Will I be able to import new music into the library from any one of the three computers?

I am having a very similar problem. I have all of my music saved on a large external disk connected to my airport. I would like to be able to just play what i want from this disk, but i don't like having to download every track i want to listen to. I still want to be able to bring my laptop with me and have some music so i don't want to make this external disk my library folder. Is there a way to play it on my computer similar to a shared library on another computer? Am i asking to much out of apple?

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