10.5.2 and santa rosa mbp cinema display issue

not only did the update hang... It took disconnecting everything and reseting the pram just to get it past the initial white screen.. once it booted the display on the mbp flickered like 7 times seemingly adjusting it's color profile over and over. I plugged in my 30 inch and it appeared to be working fine.. but then i noticed that the brightness of the display on the santa rosa wasn't responding at all.. and neither were the keyboard keys that usually control the brightness of the cinema display.
So I decided to reboot.. well. what do you know, won't reboot again unless I unplug not only the cinema display, but the firewire and usb extensions that go with it, and my fire800 external... I'm not sure which it is as I'm not going to test it risking anything.. it's something though.. it seems like a power issue... and I'm worried it could get worse.. if i don't restart and unplug everything the fans speed up all the way and it just sits..
I am not going to reboot for a while now.. hopefully until there is a solution.. help?
and not to mention I was hoping for a fix with 10.5.2.. try calibrating your color in expert mode.. there's not even a button on the right slider.. I was told that this in their database, and escalated by two separate geniuses.. over 2 months ago..

not any ideas?

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Santa Rosa MBP Application Crashes with EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

I am having Application crashing problems with my brand new Santa Rosa MBP that arrived today. This machine is a 2.4 GHz 17" MBP with Hi-Res Glossy display and it came with 2 GB of RAM. I upgraded it to 4 GB but this problem occurs with the original chips or the new 2 x 2 GB chips.
So far the applications that crash are Pages, Keynote, Aperture, Parallels Desktop, and iWeb. Other things I have tried are all right for now. Excerpts from the CrashReporter log of Aperture are below. All applications are crashing with an identical EXCBADACCESS (0x0001) and KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE (0x0002) at ... (this number differs for individual applications). Any ideas?
Bryan
Host Name: brycv
Date/Time: 2007-07-05 20:49:02.460 -0700
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R2232)
Report Version: 4
Command: Aperture
Path: /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/Aperture
Parent: WindowServer [82]
Version: 1.5.3 (1.5.3)
PID: 1196
Thread: 0
Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0x00000000 0 + 0
1 com.apple.Aperture 0x00003149 0x1000 + 8521
2 com.apple.Aperture 0x0000323e 0x1000 + 8766
3 com.apple.Aperture 0x0000336e 0x1000 + 9070
4 com.apple.Aperture 0x0000294e 0x1000 + 6478
5 com.apple.Aperture 0x00002875 0x1000 + 6261
Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900248c7 semaphorewait_signaltrap + 7
1 com.apple.ColorSync 0x915a86cf pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 35
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x915c2de0 CMMConvTask(void*) + 60
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900248c7 semaphorewait_signaltrap + 7
1 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x9418afdb glvmDoWork + 150
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x010f7020 ebx: 0x92b217da ecx: 0x01872000 edx: 0x00000011
edi: 0xbffffbd8 esi: 0x01872000 ebp: 0xbffffc08 esp: 0xbffffbdc
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x00000000 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
MacBook Pro 17" 2.4 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.10)
MacBook Pro 17" 2.4 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.10)
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I am also having this problem with Adobe Bridge CS3, and QuickTime but only if I try to open a video file. It seems to be a problem when I access anything that wants to deal with the video hardware in the machine. I am planning on calling Apple tomorrow but any help would be appreciated.

Problem with Santa Rosa MBP-Unable to Boot

I have a Santa Rosa MBP with the maximum of 4GB of memory.
About 4 months ago I was unable to boot it because there was no video at all. The Genius Bar stated it was a problem with the video in the hardware and kept it for about a week to install a new Logic Board.
I got it back but within a couple days began having new problems. The Wi-Fi would connect but there was no internet on safari, mail, etc. i went to the Apple store again and the Genius Bar was unable to fix it and said it was a problem deep inside the OS. What I did since I had already bought Snow Leopard I did an upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard and it solved the problem.
It has worked well the last 3 months or so when my MBP started slowing down. It would sometimes take 10 minutes just to get from the login screen after typing in my password to my desktop where I can use it. Programs would open slow, close slow. My dashboard opens but I can't do anything with it. It has only gotten worse with time and now the computer won't even boot. It gets to the grey Apple with the progress indicator and stays there with the fan running but never goes further.
Fortunately I had done a mirrored backup from Super Duper. I had begun to think it was a hard drive problem. I tried booting from this backup that was made before the problem got very bad and it also runs the same way. I then took this backup to another MBP I have and it worked perfectly. I don't think it's a hard drive problem now. I then thought it may be a memory problem. I used the DVD that came with the MBP to do a hardware test which passed.
I think I have no choice but to go back to the Genius Bar. The problem is with purchasing the additional AppleCare my AppleCare just expired about 3 weeks ago. Yet I know this logic board was put in around 4 months ago and if I'm correct when something like that is done it's often a refurbished board, not new. Either way I had the issue with Wi-Fi just after the replacement and I went back to Apple for it. I think it was related and now this problem. I don't want to have to buy a new MBP but yet I'm convinced all these problems started with the logic board replacement.
Do any of you have other ideas of what the problem could be? Is it possible something I could fix? I have tried a PRAM reset with no luck. Would Apple cover something like this?
Thank you for your help.

Hi,
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Volume 0     C   OSDisk       NTFS   Partition    465 GB Healthy
Volume 1                      NTFS   Partition    300 MB Healthy
Volume 2     D   Win7_2.1.6_ NTFS   Removable     14 GB Healthy
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How do I connect a new Thunderbolt MBP to and old 23" HD Cinema Display ADC port

A question Im sure many have asked but I cant find a straight forward answer.
I simply will be buying a new thunderbolt MBP 15 and NEED to connect it an old 23" Apple Cinema Display that uses the old ADC connector.
Can I do it and if so how? I realise theres a potential under powering issue?
Thanks

Hello Sigh
I am sure there is no way to get your ADC connector display to function with your new Mac Book Pro.
I tried everying I could and gave up and purchased a 24" Apple refurbbished Cinema Display for $599 + tax on 4/27/2011. The Apple part number is FBXXXXL/A, Model A1287.
Gave my year 2002 ADC 22" display to a friend.
d
Sent- Tuesday, August 9, 2011-- 3:49 PM(Pacific Time)
Don Macdonald
< Edited by Host >
Re: How do I connect a new Thunderbolt MBP to and old 23" HD Cinema Display ADC port Jul 8, 2011 4:58 PM (in response to Russy47)
Got my new MBP 2011 today. Hooked it up to my 23" Apple Cinema Display fine, using the Apple DVI to ADC converter > Mini Display port adaptors. I could then mirror display, but only at 1440 x 900 resolution.
My dream is to have it like my old laptop--I mostly leave it shut, and main display is on the Cinema Display. So far, if I close the laptop lid on my new MBP, display shuts off. Also, can't get it to bump up the resolution to 1920.
Sigh.

27" display and late '09 MBP 13" - Display software update **doesn't work**

Hello All,
My shiny new 27" LED cinema display arrived today. The display is stunning, but when I downloaded and installed the "LED Cinema Display Software Update 1.0" (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1107) on my mid-'09 MBP 13" it doesn't work!!
The installation completes successfully, but after rebooting and checking system preferences, I don't get the brightness slider etc nor the option to use the built-in speakers in the display.
Please advise if you have any advice or thoughts on the matter.
Many thanks,
Rob

Apple got hold of me and we went through some trouble-shooting steps. Turns out that the USB connector, although fully plugged in, was somehow not seated correctly and was thus not recognizing the display and speaker etc.
Happily resolved!

Connecting MBP & Cinema Display

I just purchased a MBP 2.4 C2D 15" and have a Cinema Display (20") newer aluminum model. What I noticed is that when I use the Cin Display with my MBP and CLOSE the MBP lid (screen) DOWN and use just the Cinema Display, the sleep light on the MBP comes on in a steady light, not pulsing like it does in sleep. So far it goes to sleep and wakes up out of sleep properly - sleep as defined as sleep light pulsating and HD & functions stop.
My powerbook does not do have the sleep come on when I use the cinema display with it. No light comes on as the computer is in use. And I'm concerned there's something wrong with the MBP. Any others out there who have the same set-up PLEASE let me know if the light comes on for you when set up w/ a Cin Display.
I've been on the phone w/ applecare for over an hour and he doesn't know.. now I'm on hold for someone else.. It's got to be a simpler answer than that. Either it's not supposed to do that or it is. Hopefully someone who knows will take the time to respond. Thanks much!
Regards.
This is a rewording of another post I put up, perhaps this is more specific. Thanks.

Well, I think I finally have an answer... I spent 2 hours on the phone w/ applecare (for such a simple question, but no one seemed to have the answer) and it was stated to me that with the MBP, when in clamshell mode, the sleep light does come on (in steady pulse) when using an external monitor. So that's what I'm going with.. So if you're wondering about the same thing as I, this I what I was told from apple (applecare) and she polled several other people who actually use the MBP in this way.

Are FW800 and FW400 Ports On Separate Buses...On Santa Rosa MBP?

Hi Folks,
I have yet to get a definitive answer from Apple Support, Apple store techs, the Web, searching these forums, etc. on this question:
On the latest MacBook Pro (Santa Rosa), are the Firewire 800 and Firewire 400 ports on separate buses? In other words, if I have an external FW400 drive (or other FW400 device such as an audio interface) running on the FW400 port, and an external FW800 drive running on the FW800 port, will the 800 run at 800 speeds or 400 speeds?
Here are the answers I've received thus far:
Apple Support: "Yes...they 'should' be on separate buses", "The techs say the 800 'should' run at 800", "You should call an Apple store"
Apple Store #1: "They ARE on separate buses"
Apple Store #2: "They ARE NOT on separate buses"
The Web: I've not found one source that supports that they ARE on separate buses. Every post I've read in this and other forums suggest that they share the same bus and that the FW800 port will degrade in this situation.
Does anyone have the definitive answer on this? Any real-world experience?
Thank you so much.
Rich

Ignore the previous poster.
Here is all you need to know...
There is ONE FireWire bus. It supports up to 800 MB/sec.
*You cannot use both the FW800 and FW400 ports at the same time! You can't!*
If you for example plug in a FireWire 800 hard drive into your FireWire 800 port, and a video camera into the FireWire 400 port, then capturing video in Final Cut Pro simply *WILL NOT WORK.*
So, what is the solution?
One solution is to plug the video camera into the hard drive, assuming it has a FW 400 port on it. This will daisy-chain the video camera through the FW 800 hard drive.
Another solution is to buy a FireWire ExpressCard for your 34mm ExpressCard slot. I got one with two FireWire 400 ports at NewEgg.com for $29.99. There are also ones available that have FireWire 800 ports on them, but they are pricier. Adding the ExpressCard gives you *an additional FireWire bus* that will have its own 800MB/s dedicated just to it. This is the best way to go since now you will have DUAL buses.
For example I hook my FireWire 800 hard drive up on my FW 800 port, and my MOTU 828 up on the ExpressCard FireWire 400 port. That way, the audio signals coming in are not clogging up the bus that the record drive is set up on... I've been able to get better latency for recording this way!
Hope this helps!!

Santa Rosa MBP - DVI to VGA Projector problems

When hooking up a Sharp PG M20X using a [DVI toVGA cable] and a [VGA to DVI adaptor] the MBP sees the projector, but the projector cannot see the computer.
This is a problem because, I may find myself in situations where this is the only configuration for hooking my MBP up to a projector.
Note:
1. A G4 Powerbook works fine with this configuration.
2. The MacBook Pro drives the Sharp PG M20X projector DVI to DVI - without problems
3. The MacBook Pro drives a DVI to VGA CRT monitor - using a [VGA to DVI adaptor] - without problems.
Is there a solution?
Thanks
I have a 2.4 GHz Santa Rosa C2D MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.10) Sharp PG M20X Projector (DVI-input)

I think I solved this problem.
It was in issue for me. My second monitor would only display the Windows XP screen when it was loading, then it would black out. I couldn't even move my mouse arrow to the other side. Then I fixed it, here's how (running Windows XP SP3):
1. Start > Control Panel > Appearance and Themes
2. Display
3. Go to tab "settings"
4. Double click the blue image with the "2" inside it. This is the second monitor, adjacent to your first, or primary, monitor. The blue box may be a desaturated, greyish blue, meaning that the monitor is disabled. Click it and it a box will pop up asking if you want to enable the monitor. Click OK, and then like magic, your monitor is resurected in it's Windows Glory! From there, adjust the resolution, and it should work perfectly.
This isn't a Boot Camp compatability issue, it's just a problem with the lack of familiarity that users of OS X have with using XP.
Have a nice day!
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Santa Rosa MBP, Kernel Panics fixed by 10.4.10 Update v1.1

A friend of mine who has the new 2.4GHz MBP just ran the 10.4.10 v1.1, and he no longer has KPs. Has anyone else tried this with their SR MBPs?
I just got my 7th machine last night. I noticed that Apple has made the AC adapter smaller (similar to PB's). Who knows, maybe they changed something from the first release? Anyways, I tested it on battery, and within about 15 min, a KP while surfing the net! I will give the v1.1 a try when I get home tonight. will report back.
SR MBP owners, pls let me know if there's any fix out there that I am not be aware of. Thank you!

I run mine on battery all the time. Out on the deck, airports, hotspots, office buildings, hotels. Never had an issue with KP's.
I purchased mine through PowerMax on a trade-in deal for my old Core Duo model. They are located in Oregon I believe.
Something very wrong with being on 7. This is my 3rd one and only because I voluntarily keep upgrading them. Had a 15" Core Duo traded up for a 17" Core Duo and now a 17" Santa Rosa. Never had a single problem with any of them.
Apple certainly isn't problem free, the same as any other manufacturer isn't.
But honestly..if your on #7 I would have to start thinking that the problem is something other than the MBP. Some software...configuration...combination of hardware....something. I mean you would pretty much have to be the worlds unluckiest person I would think to have 7 bad ones.
Honestly, I really do mean no offense, but you might want to start looking at other factors. Are you using 3rd party RAM in it? Have you tried other routers? Or just one you have at home? What security protocols are you using? What software have you loaded from the default configuration.
I guess anything is possible, but statistically it would seem improbable that 7 of them could be suffering from the same problem.

What is a Santa Rosa MBP?

Sorry for my ignorance, but I just bought a MBP 17" 2.4Ghz with 4GB RAM and 7200RPM HD and I've read a lot about the "Santa Rosa" and I'm lost. What is it? and how can you tell? Thanks

It's the most recent incarnation of the MBP line that is using a different chipset than previous models. This chipset is nick-named 'Santa Rosa' by Intel. Hence the new MBPs are called the Santa Rosa models. They can be easily identified by their CPU speeds - 2.2 and 2.4 GHz.
If you open System Profiler you will also see that the Machine ID is 3,1 to identify the first of the Santa Rosa models.

Brand-new Santa Rosa MBP, Kernel Panics related to Airport

Brand new MBP (2.4GHz 15"), anytime I do anything online I get a kernel panic. I am connecting to a WPA-2 network that is supporting stable connections to several other computers, including another (albeit older) MBP. I have no third-party sw installed, I have no peripherals attached, I have installed all available updates, I have run disk verify/repair and permission repair via the install disk and the problem persists. I have also physically inspected the RAM modules to make sure they're situated properly.
The console log shows mbuf failures (I can only access the log if I have the airport off) that are similar to the problem Apple identified in 10.4.8 but were supposedly solved w/ 10.4.9 (see http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?
artnum=303712).
So two questions: anyone else out there experiencing this on a WPA-2 or other network? If so, any fixes that don't involve me having to return this computer to Apple? If this is a QA issue that could have been prevented through better testing prior to release...

Hey Don (and others)
I bought a new Santa Rosa MPB yesterday and am suffering the same issues. My office uses WPA (not sure about the specifics) and within the first hour of ownership (of my FIRST Apple machine ever) I suffered kernel panics.
I get back to my workplace from the local Apple Store, get all set up and online. I run all the software updates fine. Next, I shut the lid and proudly carry my new Mac to a meeting. Open the lid and notice I can't get online. I stop and start the wireless and immediately get a kernel panic.
Restart, and it happens again.
Restart, and I can get online finally. With the help of some coworkers I get to the panic.log file and notice the panic happens around the Airport.
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x2572b9f8 : 0x128d08 (0x3cc224 0x2572ba1c 0x131de5 0x0)
0x2572ba38 : 0x1a4a55 (0x3d2638 0x0 0xe 0x3d1e5c)
0x2572bb48 : 0x19aeb4 (0x2572bb60 0x2572bb68 0xb92ebbb4 0x6)
0x2572bbf8 : 0x3b3c5e1e (0x17 0x23e1a107 0x6 0x3e77a380)
0x2572bdd8 : 0x3b3c8059 (0x23b052c8 0x1 0x4b285c 0x6)
0x2572bf08 : 0x39b543 (0x23b05000 0x4174b00 0x1 0x3c341e8)
0x2572bf58 : 0x39a715 (0x4174b00 0x135eb4 0x0 0x3c341e8)
0x2572bf88 : 0x39a44b (0x40e9200 0x0 0xee6ae98 0x13818b)
0x2572bfc8 : 0x19ad2c (0x40e9200 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x42bee60) Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0x0
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros(230.8.5)@0x3b394000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x634000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.2)@0x5a4000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(160.2)@0x3b375000
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.9.4: Thu May 17 18:04:27 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.20.12~1/RELEASE_I386
Later I discovered that the office uses WPA. So I bring the MBP home and connect via my WEP encrypted WiFi, and haven't had the same problem once (so far it's been over 24 hours, with many "sleeps" in the meantime).
I did have another panic, waking up out of a 'deep sleep' this morning (after having had the lid shut for 6 hours)...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform(1.0.10)@0x606000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.2)@0x5f2000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.2.0)@0x602000
ACPI seems to have crashed something, hoping I can recreate this tomorrow morning.
At this point, I'm just glad to see I'm not the only owner of a the new MBP's suffering the same WPA-related crashes. Also, I do wonder if I got a replacement if it would solve anything, though I'm up for trying and may try tomorrow.
Overall, a bit frustrated (especially since after craving a MBP for months and holding out for the new models, to have these issues).
Oh, I also have a 2.4ghz 15"
-r-

MBP + Cinema Display + TV Moved

<Moved>
Ok so heres my situation.
I have a 15" MBP and would very much like to get a large 30"+ cinema display. Current choices:
30" Apple HD Cinema Display
30" Dell equivalent
or
Sony Bravia HD TV probably 40" though I'm not sure yet.
The reason for my last choice is that i would very much like to be able to watch TV on it, as i don't have a TV in the room I wish the Display to go (so i thought i would kill two birds with one stone, not litterally of course).
Is there any way of hooking the 30" displays to a Digi (Sky) box of some sort, and viewing a TV signal (as obviously they only take the DVI link).
Also if i went for the Sony, what do you think the on screen display quality would be like, when linked to the MBP??
Any suggestions/comments or experiences shard would be very much appreciated....
Thanks
S

Computers don't limit the output to TVs. The limitation comes from the TV itself. Many manufacturers don't consider us 1% of the market that desire to hook a computer up to a large screen TV and so they don't account for it. Fortunately, this is begining to change.
What you might want to do, when you decide on a specific model number of TV, is search the AV Science Forums (avsforum.com) for that model and see what others have to say about their experience hooking it up to a computer (PC or Mac; doesn't really matter). I believe the new Sonys that are true full HD are working better at this, at least over a VGA connection. The new Sharps (D62U series) are reported to be working over digital connections.
It pays to do research on the TV up front to avoid disappointment.

MBP + Cinema Display + TV

Ok so heres my situation.
I have a 15" MBP and would very much like to get a large 30"+ cinema display. Current choices:
30" Apple HD Cinema Display
30" Dell equivalent
or
Sony Bravia HD TV probably 40" though I'm not sure yet.
The reason for my last choice is that i would very much like to be able to watch TV on it, as i don't have a TV in the room I wish the Display to go (so i thought i would kill two birds with one stone, not litterally of course).
Is there any way of hooking the 30" displays to a Digi (Sky) box of some sort, and viewing a TV signal (as obviously they only take the DVI link).
Also if i went for the Sony, what do you think the on screen display quality would be like, when linked to the MBP??
Any suggestions/comments or experiences shard would be very much appreciated....
Thanks
S

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Mac Mini 2012 and I want to use a new 27" Lighting Display and my old 27" Cinema Display as a second Monitor

Evening all,
I have a Mac Mini that I have been using a 27" Cinema Display on for a couple years - works GREAT, love the Mini and that display. The Cinema Display has Power for a Laptop, USB connector and a Mini Display Port connection on it.
I am a Guitarist / Songwriter and I use Pro Tools a lot. So I thought I would invest in the new Lightning Display for my Mac Mini. I would get the extra ports for Firewire, and USB, as well as now I could "Daisy Chain" my old Cinema Display off the new Lightning Display.
WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT THIS HAS TURNED INTO !!!! I have honestly spent more than 6 hours trying to find adapters or ways to make these monitors BOTH work at the same time with the Mac Mini ( you know, a Dual Monitor Setup . . .)
HELP !!!
1 - If I could find a HDMI MALE to Mini Display Port FEMALE adapter, I would run it on the HDMI interface - apparently no such adapter exists.
2 - You apparently can NOT daisy chaine the Cinema Display off the Thunderbolt Port on the new Monitor ( silly that that does not work, but it does not )
I am really stuck here - how do I get these monitors to work as "Dual Monitors" on the Mac Mini ???
Thanks !

The HDMI port won't work for a 27" monitor, it maxes out at 1920*1200...
Supports dual simultaneous displays -- 1920x1200 on an HDMI display or a DVI display using the included HDMI-to-DVI adapter and 2560x1600 on a Thunderbolt or Mini DisplayPort display or even a VGA display (with adapter). Thunderbolt is backwards-compatible with Mini DisplayPort-equipped displays as well as adapters that are compatible with Mini DisplayPort (DVI, VGA, dual-link DVI and HDMI).
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-i7-2.3-late-2 012-specs.html

LED Cinema Display issues with audio and App Switching

The audio on my Cinema Display fails after about 20 minutes, unable to diagnose other than Mavericks.
When swithing between apps (seems like Safari more than anything else) I experience a 5 second freeze every 4th or 5th switch using external Apple Keyboard.
Alt-Tab or mouse click in dock makes the same the happen with Apple Keyboard
I do have an external Logitech Mouse but have treid all the other things in the other thread to fix that and it still happens with the mouse disconnected at start.
I don't have another external mouse to test.
Defeating the point of my external display, search through here isn't yielding much info...

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