10.5.2 TIme Machine with Firewire Drives

I have seen other people post that they have had problems with Time Machine and 10.5.2. I have had similar problems -- The backup would fail after about 6-8gb with mysterious system.log lines saying there were errors copying files to the volume. The most interesting lines in system.log were from backupd producing error -36 (io error) followed by a mysterious -8062 error.
I checked the disk, no errors. I verified that the files listed in the log file were not erroneous -- they were ok. I reformatted the time machine drive and got the same result. I bought a new external drive on the chance that the old external drive was failing and still got the messages. Prior to the 10.5.2 update, Time Machine worked as advertised with no issues.
In an attempt to figure this out, I switched the external drive from firewire 400 to USB. Now, the backup seems to progressing normally. Interestingly, when Aperture tried to backup a vault to the same firewire drives, it also got an I/O error.
I suspect there is a problem with the 10.5.2 firewire drivers and PowerMac G5 (and maybe others)

I concur. Leopard's FireWire drivers still seem to be problematic. On my friend's computer, an iMac G4, using FireWire had consistently resulted in disk failures when running 10.5.1, so we had switched to USB as a workaround. After 10.5.2 arrived, we switched back, hoping Apple had fixed the problem. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case.
Soon after switching back to FireWire, Time Machine failed, and we ended up having to start from scratch. Time Machine got to about the 100-GB mark of the initial backup when it reported a disk error. Unlike your case, however, the volume was corrupted, and Disk Utility could not repair it. We're going back to USB for now.

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Time Machine with 2T drive connected to Airport Extreme base via USB

I got this to work - Time machine recognizing the drive in its "choose backup disk" menu.
I used it to store Apple Lossless audio on a big iTunes library, as well as for my Time Machine backups.
Whole system ran fine for 4 months until last week: while I was using iTunes with that remote library, adding audio to it... "Airport has detected a disk error"... My 2TB of disk turned into a very expensive brick.
The disk had to be recovered with Disk Warrior, detecting "19,753 directory entries with incorrect text encoding value" as part of a nice one-page-long list of other errors.
SINCE THEN: no matter what I do, the disk does not show up in Time Machine, even though I can access it via the network exactly as before.
Any ideas are welcome!

Apple does not support Time Machine backups to an AirPort disk (a USB drive attached to an AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS)). (ref: Mac OS X 10.5: Time Machine doesn't back up to AirPort Extreme AirPort Disks) Although folks, like yourself, have gotten this to work initially, the long-term stability of the TM backups is highly suspect and why Apple doesn't support it. Sorry!

Time machine with network drive?

I heard I could use time machine with the hard drive I have connected to my airport extreme. Problem is I can't get the disk to appear in the time machine set up window as an option

Unfortunately Apple does not support Time Machine backups to a HDD attached to the AirPort Extreme USB port. Doing so is not recommended as most users who attempt this end up with corrupted backups over time. However, you could use a different backup solution with this configuration, just not Time Machine.

Time machine with USB drive on Airport Extreme

For 2+ years I used a USB hard drive shared off my Airport Extreme to host time machine backups. I just switched internet providers solely so that i could go back to using my airport extreme and sharing a backup disk. But time machine no longer shows it as an available drive...and I found this
AirPort base stations: Time Machine hard drive compatibility - Apple Support
which states: Time Machine is not supported with USB hard drives that are connected to an AirPort Express or AirPort Extreme device.
This is a pretty big step backwards as far as I'm concerned.....are there are any ways around it?

There is a way around it: buy the latest type of the Airport Extreme (the tall one). But even that solution isn't considered reliable: http://pondini.org/TM/AEQ2.html

Can't backup to Time Machine with portable drive plugged into a router

I am using a the Cisco EA3500 with a USB plug on the back, I am trying to backup with Time Machine to a portable hard drive plugged into the USB on the back of the rputer over the wifi network. I'm wondering if that is possible. I tried it once but "I'm getting the The Network backup disk does not support the required of AFP features" error message. PLEASE HELP!!!! Thank you!

See Pondini's TM FAQs for starters.

Time Machine with other drives

Does Time Machine only backup the system drive?
I'd like to use TimeMachine to backup a PCIe attached RAID.
Will that work?
Is there any special config or cautions to consider?

Kappy means "all connected devices that have not been specifically EXcluded."
Plus drives that aren't formatted for a Mac (HFS+, aka: any variant of +Mac OS Extended).+
That said, what it does with a RAID set will depend on how it looks to OSX: asuming it looks like a single volume, it should be fine. If it looks like two, it will try to back both up separately, so you'll probably want to exclude one.

Time Machine on FireWire drive not recognized

Got an iMac with a FireWire drive set up as a TimeMachine volume.
In addition, I have a MBP, connected to the network via Wifi (Airport Extreme).
Under Snow Leopard, both Macs were able to do TimeMachine updates to the FireWire drive connected to the iMac.
Now, under Lion, the TimeMachine volume is still recognized and functional (i.e. successful backup) for the iMac, but not visible anymore for the MBP.
The MBP can't see the TimeMachine volume, let alone back up to it.
What gives ?
Is this perhaps a network or access authorization issue ?
Thanks.

Ok, so here some more information.
iMac (Lion) with connected FW HD, thus hosts the TimeMachine volumes, connected via Ethernet to AirportExtreme
MBP (Lion), connected via WLAN to AirportExtreme
Connecting FROM iMac to MBP:
Sidebar - Shared computers: OK
Terminal SSH: OK
Finder - Go - Connect to Server: OK
Connecting FROM MBP to iMac:
Sidebar - Shared computers: Error "Connection failed"
Terminal SSH: OK
Finder - Go - Connect to Server: Error "There was a problem connecting to the server"
I'm really beginning to think my MBP Lion install is borked.

Can you use time machine with 2 drives

I'd like to make two Time Machine backups - one per external drive - so that I can keep one in a different location. Is that possible? When I switch drives will each backup know where to pickup?
Thanks.

Yes, although that's not the best way to keep secondary backups.
See Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #27 for details.

Time Capsule with Firewire ports?

Looking for more speed. So does anyone know if Apple has any intentions of releasing a Time Machine with firewire ports? If so when and as a side note when did Apple upgrade their Time Capsule to 802.11 and did it make much of a difference in speed or operating capabilities? Thank you for the help.

So does anyone know if Apple has any intentions of releasing a Time Machine with firewire ports?
Sorry, but no one on a user-to-user forum will have any information about what a notoriously secretive company like Apple might do. Even if we did, the Terms of Use Agreement for this area....which we all "signed"....does not allow discussions of this type.
when did Apple upgrade their Time Capsule to 802.11
All models of the Time Capsule that have ever been offered are 802.11 devices. You must be thinking of some other "feature" here. Please clarify.

Time Machine with two hard drives?

I have a Mac mini running 10.5 Server that operates as my home server.
Is there any way to assign two separate hard drives as being available Time Machine network backup drives? IOW, if I had six Macs on my network and I wanted three of them to back up to Time Machine Drive #1 and the other three to back up to Time Machine Drive #2, is this possible? If so, how? It seems like Time Machine Server will only allow me to assign one drive as a network backup volume.

OK, here's the deal with TM. First is to know to what TM will backup:
Requirements to use Time Machine
Time Machine is only available with Leopard (10.5.x)
1. External FireWire or USB 2.0 drive
2. Time Capsule
3. Drive shared by a Mac running 10.5 or later using File Sharing
4. Drive shared by a Mac running 10.5 Server
5. SAN volume managed by Apple's Xsan file system
A TM drive must be partitioned with either APM (PPC) or GUID (Intel) and formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled.)
Second, because TM is an incremental archival backup system the backup drive should be at least twice the capacity of the total capacities of the drives it backs up.
Now, each Mac on your network can use TM to backup their computer to a drive selected in the TM preferences on their computer. Multiple machines can backup to a single TM backup drive. TM will create separate backup folders on the target drive for each computer. Each computer needs to have a unique Computer Name (Sharing preference.)
Note that this is set up on each computer on your network, not through the server itself. As far as I'm aware TM only backs up to one drive. Thus, each networked computer can backup to a drive. The server on the other hand has its own separate TM backup.
You will need to manage the exclusion list to minimize space usage on the backup drives. Most likely you would want to have each client machine only backing up a Home folder. I would set up a /Home/Applications/ folder on each client machine exclusively for third-party user applications unless all applications are installed exclusively on the server.

HT3275 Since updating OS to Mountain Lion from leopard, I get the following error message when trying to backup with time machine on external drive. Could not complete backup to media share. The network backup disk does not support the required AFP feat

Since updating OS to Mountain Lion from leopard, I get the following error message when trying to backup with time machine on external drive. "Could not complete backup to media share. The network backup disk does not support the required AFP features." What are AFP features and how do I get Time Machine to backup to my current external backup?

This means that your NAS does not support the required encryption. Update your NAS to the latest firmware or ditch it and buy a Time Capsule (they are the most reliable when using TM).

Can I increase the capacity of Time Machine with an external hard drive connected to Time Capsule?

Can I increase the capacity of Time Machine with an external hard drive connected to Time Capsule via the USB port? My current Time Machine has a total capacity of 1TB. I'd like to double or triple its memory. I don't want to use the external hard drive in lieu of the Time Capsule hard drive. I'd like to use it in addition to. Just don't know if/how it's possible.
This is another one of those questions that I've searched the web for answers, and have gotten tricky answers back. So now I'm trying to introduce a clean slate to the mix.
Thank you for your time!

Well, what you mentioning is possible. However, I don't know whether it's supported (as in, "easy to set up."). Time Machine officially supports backing up to a locally attached drive, to a machine running a Time Machine server (i.e. running OS X Server software), and to a Time Capsule. I don't know that it officially supports a drive attached to an AirPort or to a Time Capsule. Though I know some people have gotten it to work.
Best I can say is to try it. Plug the drive into the Time Capsule, ensure it's shared on the network, and then try and set it as a backup target from a machine in the Time Machine backup panel (you'll need to ensure it's mounted first). If it works, you're all set.

Using Time MACHINE with a USB drive connected to an Airport Extreme

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*Q1. Can I use the USB drive(s) for Time Machine backups AND other data?*
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Hi, Nubz!
Yes, I just saw that, and am still chuckling.
Maybe that will mollify the Jive gods?
Thanks again,
Jim

Using Time Machine with a network Drive

I recently bought a WD My Book Live network drive to use as my Time Machine backup. I was previously using a USB external HD for Time Machine with no problems. I have set up the new network drive but when I go in to Time Machine to select it as the drive to back up to, it is not showing up. The only drive I see is my old USB external HD. I have the latest firmware for the network drive and I am running Mac OSX10.5.8. Any suggestions?

If you bought the WD in a USB enclosure it probably came formatted with NTFS (Windows). Time Machine can't use NTFS drives or SMB (Windows) network shares as a backup destination because that format does not allow the proper permissions to be set. If this is the case with your drive, open Disk Utility and reformat your new drive (NOT you system drive!!) with HFS+ aka 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' and then the drive should show up as a target selection in Time Machine.

Time Machine with multiple hard drives

I use a very large external hard drive for time machine. I back up to this time machine, the two hard drivs that are inside my macbook pro, 512GB ssd, and 250GB SSD that is in the optical drive. I then backup a 1TB portable hard drive which holds all my movies and then I backup another 1Tb portable hard drive which holds all my "reserve" files, which means they are files that are no longer important to be on my computer. Old pictures, music, etc.
Now, I can't plug all of these drive's in at once. So, let's say I have to do a backup and I have nothing plugged in but the time machine external hard drive. Will it only backup the two hard drives that are in my computer and then later somehow let me go and restore the other drives? Or will it attempt to restore all 4 drives at one time? Because if the one in my computer mess's up, the other's may not be messed up and I do not want it to restore those.
I have used Time Machine before to restore my system. But never since I have started adding extra drives for Time Machine to backup.
I am also planning on adding, yet another drive for it to backup which is a 1TB portable hard drive that I keep raw files on for photography. I'm just curious how this works when and if the time comes.

well superduper is FREE, CCC isnt.........CCC can do the daily updates etc,. Superduper DOES NOT. the CCC and Superduper CLONES are bootable.......so, if your HD crashes, you can throw in the CLONE, and youre back and running in mins, rather than hours etc .
You should NEVER consider a backup a "backup", ........2 copies is 1, and 1 is none.....always have 2 copies of important files / pics etc etc,......... DECADES of work have been lost by people who thought their stuff was safe because they had a (meaning 1) backup.
Simplicity? Yes, Simplicity is my religion. CLONE your HD with programs and settings, ......and use a 2nd HD updated daily / weekly etc (preferable 2 such 'seecond' harddrives, copies of each other) with all personal stuff / work / pics / vids/ documents.....
superficially time machine is simpler, "smack a button and everything backs up".......in REALITY however when it "all goes up in flames"................the pro method (and my method) is QUICKER and more reliable by far to get down and running.
Ive restored other peoples from total crash and burns via Time machine.......and "my" way............my way always ends up faster by a mile. Also personal / work etc files are kept autonomous to the system data / programs OS,.....as it logically should be.
Time machine is the fastest incremental backup........but its as slow as paint peeling if you need it in case of a TOTAL CRASH.......wherein a bootable clone can be thrown in , in less than 20 mins.

10.5.2 TIme Machine with Firewire Drives

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