10.6.2 Upgrade and old Airport Card Problems

Not sure if related BUT after spending the day from heck recovering from my 10.6.2 upgrade, my G4 Cube which was in the wireless network with an old airport card I pirated from and old macbook will NOT join the network. Airport Ext is set to use WPA Personal or WPA2 as security.
Any ideas?

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I want to upgrade my old airport express to the new express. Can I just switch out the old for the new or must I delete the old network first and start from scratch with the new express?

I want to upgrade my old airport express to the new express. Can I just switch out the old for the new or must I delete the old network first and start from scratch with the new express?

It is not necessary to delete your old wireless networks first, but doing so may eliminate confusion. If you wish to do that, open System Preferences > Network, and select Wi-Fi from the left column. Click the Advanced... button, then select your old wireless networks and delete them with the "–" (minus) button. Make sure the "Remember networks this computer has joined" remains checked.
OK then Apply.
This prevents your Mac from searching for your previous network which will no longer exist.
A new Express creates an open wireless network that you must select before you can configure it. It appears in your Wi-Fi menu like this:
Select it. AirPort Utility will load and walk you through its configuration.
Edit: If you are really using OS X 10.5.1 as shown in your profile, the above screenshot is not applicable. Instead, select the network called "Apple network nnnnnn" and then launch AirPort Utility.

Is Wi Fi speed limited by old iMac and old Airport Express?

I got my sister an Apple TV for Christmas. Download times for movies or TV rentals is really slow.
She has Time Warner Road Runner Cable modem at their standard speed (not upgraded to "Turbo". My question is whether a new Airport Express or Extreme running at 802.11n would either speed up downloads or transfers from her newer MacBook to the Apple TV.
I guess my question is whether the desktop - an old Power PC and it's old Airport Card hinder the performance of either the rental or purchase downloads or connectivity between her MacBook, Apple TV & iPad. When I visit, I also get a pretty weak signal from the den in the back of the house to the family room up front. Could the "n" upgrade improve on any of these limitations? Not sure if the slow main computer is part of the problem.
Sorry I don't have more details on the internet speed or specifics on the system.

I guess my question is whether the desktop - an old Power PC and it's old Airport Card hinder the performance of either the rental or purchase downloads or connectivity between her MacBook, Apple TV & iPad.
Yes, the do. When you have non-"n" wireless clients on an "n" network, there will be bandwidth performance degradation anytime those non-"n" clients are active on the network. Typically, "n" clients only get around 70% of maximum bandwidth when non-"n" clients (computers, printers, Internet-ready TVs, or routers) are connected.
When I visit, I also get a pretty weak signal from the den in the back of the house to the family room up front. Could the "n" upgrade improve on any of these limitations?
Possibly. The newer "n" AirPorts do provide better range than the older models. Regardless, this will would only have minimum improvement over download speed. It should; however, improve streaming speed between the MacBook/iPad and the Apple TV.

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I have bought an old airport card for my titanium powerbook G4. Where do I put it?

Go to www.apple.com/support/diy/ and select your PowerBook. You will find the directions for installing the card.
You can use KB 88248, PowerBook G4 Computers: How to Identify Different Models to determine exactly which PowerBook you have.

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Hello there,
I've just been given an old G4 (digital audio) to use for university and after doing some research brought an old Airport card off of ebay.
After putting into the relevant slot and plugging it in, it started to recognize all of my neighbor's networks, but not my own which is run from an Apple Router!
I also have a faster G4 iBook which uses the airport extreme card and it can find it no problem?
Is it a lost cause trying to get such an old card trying to find the router? I'd rather avoid having to 'borrow' my neighbor's connection if I can help it.

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I'm going to be setting up my older G4 in my office to share multiple printers and be the iTunes jukebox. It has an original Airport card installed in it. In the past I have had problems with streaming music from my machines with older Airport cards. I have the option of installing an AE with the computer.
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Absolutely. All G4s shipped with at least 100base-T Ethernet, which is almost 10 times faster than the old Airport card.

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Then I connected my wife's Windows laptop, network was detected and the password was accepted immediately so I got that connected as well.
Last, but apparently not least, I tried to connect my G3 iBook running OSX 10.2.8 with an Airport card (not the extreme but the predecessor) so I could use that one in the garden but it will not connect.
When I open the airport icon on the top of the screen then I see the network. If I select it and try to connect I have to enter a password. After a few seconds I get a message that "There was an error joining the selected Airport network".
When I use the Airport Setup assistant to establish the connection if tells me that "the password you entered was incorrect".
I was told that the Airport Express station is able to use a 801.11b protocol since that is what the old card uses.
I checked the password, I used textedit to type it first and the 'cut and paste' but nothing seems to work.
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Hello CarreraHenk. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
When I open the airport icon on the top of the screen then I see the network. If I select it and try to connect I have to enter a password. After a few seconds I get a message that "There was an error joining the selected Airport network".
Which wireless encryption standard are you using on your new 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station's (AXn) wireless network ... WEP, WPA or WPA2?
For WPA, the minimum requirements are the AirPort Card & OS X 10.3.n. The AirPort Card will not support WPA2.

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What could I be doing wrong? I've re-tried this a couple of times already.

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In my house i was using my TC in Bridge Mode from my Router without a problem. Then i needed a ethernet connection in another room than the TC located. I thought i could use my old Airport Express for Bridging and using its Ethenet Output for my new IPTV receiver.
I started to configure via Airport Utility, everything was fine. New Airport Utility even helped me to complete install process. But then my TC just start continous disconnections, 20 seconds of greenlight and then again amber flashing, then greenlight then again same as my Airport Express. When i cut the power from Airport Express everything turns out to be OK. But when i put it on the outlet, they starting to disconnect in 30 sec intervals. I even tried to connect AE to my MBPr via Ethernet, within the 30 sec of greenlights i can get internet connection but then it drops.
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So far, everything that you are telling us likely points to a defective AirPort Express.
There are no known conflict issues between a Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express.
Here is what I would suggest:
Power off the main router, TC and the rest of the network.....all devices
Reset the Express back to factory default settings so you start over again with new, fresh settings.
To do this, power off the Express for a few minutes
Hold in the reset button first, and keep holding it in for another 10 seconds while you simultaneously plug the Express back in to power
Release the reset button after the hold period and allow a full minute for it to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Power up your network again starting with the modem/router first. Wait a minute, then start the Time Capsule next. Keep starting devices one at a time about a minute apart until everything is powered back up.
Now try to reconfigure the Express again. Temporarily, locate the Express in the same room as the Time Capsule for the setup and test it that way.
As another test, temporarily connect a laptop to the Express using a spare Ethernet cable. Turn off the wireless on the laptop and test to make sure that you can get a good Internet connection on the laptop.
If you can.....then you know that the Express is operating correctly.
Now move the Express back to the location where it is needed and test that way.
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Extreme not working as good as my old airport card?

Hi all. I just bought a new iMac 24" yesterday and I'm having some internet issues.
I have free internet service in my building. Usually you connect to the signal, and then it brings up a web page where you enter login info to gain access to outside websites. I was using a G4 tower with the original airport card, and didnt have any issues with this.
Now with my new iMac, I can connect to the service but the speed lags so much that it's literally slower than 56k dialup. I know nothing is wrong with the building's equipment, as I signed onto it with my laptop and it's just as fast as usual.
I know the airport card in the iMac is a newer version than the original one I had in the G4....but shouldnt that make it better?
Is there a simple fix to this? I just cant figure this one out.
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ALL the computers will run on the network at the
speed of the router. The new intel Mac should not be
SLOWER than any other Mac on the same network when
surfing the net - it should have the same speed -
currently the G4 has a good speed but the intel Mac
has the speed of a dial up - the question was 'why is
the intel mac slower than the G4 on the SAME network
- you missed the point
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
and if that does not help, reset SMC (power management)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
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