10.9.2 knocked out Thunderbolt/Ethernet bridge

Now I cannot be the only one. SInce updating to 10.9.2 my ethernet via the thunderbolt bridge is not working.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what might be going on with it and what steps I can take to troubleshoot.
Thanks

I have the exact same issue (rMBP 15" 2012). It worked perfectly fine for me before the update and now, even after so many methods in trying to fix it, there is no way the thunderbolt ethernet connection is getting established...
I have noticed a subtle flash on the Network pane when plugged in and removed, but this doesn't seem to take a further effect on its purpose.
Would appreciate any legitimate ideas on troubleshooting this issue or even just having a fact established that this is a hiccup in the OSX Mavericks (10.9.2) update and there really is nothing we can do until this is fixed.
Thank You

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    To provide feedback to Apple use the forms on this page.
    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

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    Feb 05 07:23:29 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.apple.com (adjusted +0 seconds).
    Feb 05 08:23:29 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.apple.com (adjusted +0 seconds).
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    Feb 05 12:25:05 Severity:3 No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
    Feb 05 13:25:35 Severity:3 No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
    Feb 05 14:26:05 Severity:3 No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
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    Feb 05 15:53:28 Severity:5 Connection accepted from [************6baf%bridge0]:51076.
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    Feb 05 11:09:10 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.nist.gov (adjusted -1 seconds).
    Feb 05 12:09:10 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.nist.gov (adjusted +0 seconds).
    Feb 05 13:09:11 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.nist.gov (adjusted -1 seconds).
    Feb 05 14:09:11 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.nist.gov (adjusted +0 seconds).
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    Feb 05 15:44:35 Severity:5 Disassociated with station ******:cc:e5
    Feb 05 15:44:35 Severity:5 Disassociated with station ******91:07
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    Feb 05 15:44:43 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant ******cc:e5
    Feb 05 15:44:44 Severity:5 Associated with station ******91:07
    Feb 05 15:44:44 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant ******91:07
    Feb 05 15:53:01 Severity:5 Associated with station ******6b:af
    Feb 05 15:53:01 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant ******:6b:af
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    Feb 05 15:53:16 Severity:5 Connection accepted from [******6baf%bridge0]:51049.
    Feb 05 15:53:16 Severity:5 Connection accepted from [******:6baf%bridge0]:51050.
    Feb 05 16:09:13 Severity:5 Clock synchronized to network time server time.nist.gov (adjusted +0 seconds).
    THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT AND SUGGESTIONS

    i decided to also add my log from the mbp (dont think it matters but its an early 2008 model mbp)
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    2/5/09 3:52:59 PM kernel image1Size 636423168
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    2/5/09 3:52:59 PM kernel image 1120299008, uncompressed 1861844992 (454552), compressed 1116586684 (59%), sum1 5d386928, sum2 eeca85bd
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