10.9.x no backlit keyboard with FileVault 2 enabled

I adopted 10.9.x (Mavericks) from 10.6.x (Snow Leopard) several MacBook Pro's 13" and 15" a like, with or without retina displays dating from 2010 to 2014.
In 10.6.x even with FileVault enabled when you first boot the computer the backlit keyboard would illuminate so you could see to enter your password to login. After adopting 10.9.x this behavior changed, now when you boot the computer the backlit keyboard remains dark making it difficult to see the keyboard in a dark room. Only after entering the password then the backlit keyboard will begin to illuminate as the desktop is being introduced.
This will occur no matter if any 10.9.x is freshly installed on a bare drive or when preforming an incremental update (i.e. 10.9.4 to 10.9.5).
To me this doesn't make any usability sense since why not illuminate the keyboard when the computer is booting as it did in the past. I've submitted feedback to Apple engineers, spoken with the Genius Bar staff, even looked for a reasonable explanation on-line in several forums without success.
Perhaps someone here can shed some light on the matter and/or offer a work around or solution to this problem.

Sorry for the delay in responding...
I do appreciate your comment and trying to help OGELTHORPE, thank you.
SMC reset has proven not to make any difference on a variety of battery non removable MacBooks Pro's, some with Retina display's others without.
I feel this is an oversight in Apple's R&D and Q&A teams and not part of their regression testing. I've reported this matter to them since the introduction of FileVault 2 yet they have chosen to do nothing about it.
Last week in one of the Apple Stores I encouraged one of the staff to enable FileVault 2 on a 15" MacBook Pro floor/display model so we could test this. This model had OS X Yosemite 10.10.0 installed. It yielded the same result, no backlit keyboard after FileVault 2 as enabled. I presume R&D isn't concerned about this since Apple's primary focus seems to be on iOS which doesn't have backlit keyboards.

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