10G etherchannel between 4510 and 3850 - NO Link

I'm pulling my hair out on a simple issue, and I could use some advice.   Thank you, in advance.
I've got a core 4510 switch with 2 12-port 10GE SFP+ modules and my closet has a stack of 3 3850-48p with 2 4-port C3850-NM-2-10G  modules.
I'm using 4 SFP-10Gb-SR SFP's to create an ether-channel between these two switches.  
The fiber between them is OM4 cable, and OM3 patch cables.
The distance is about 90 Meters.
I've got po8 created on the 4510 through te1/8 and te2/8.  On the 3850, i've got po8 created on te1/1/4 and te3/1/4.  My problem is that I cannot get a link light at all between these ports.  Absolutely nothing indicating when i hook it up.  I've tested all the patch cables using loop backs and they all respond.  I can even loop back through the complete length of the fiber and i get a link light then also. When i hook them up together, the log on the 4510 starts throwing Rx power low alarms with an Operating value of -29.5 dBm.
I've had Cisco's support go through and verify my port-channel configuration, and they found it to be correct.  
I'm starting to wonder if there is larger forces at work here.  Am i bumping into a compatibility issue?
Any help would be appreciated.

I've removed the interfaces from the etherchannel and tried cross looping.  On the 4510 I get no indication from the LEDs.  On the 3850 I get immediate indication on the LEDs.
One might conclude, Cisco support included, that the SFPs on the 4510 side were bad and should be replaced.   I hesitate to conclude this because, while members of the etherchannel, i get link lights when looping immediately.  Its only when setting the 4510 interfaces back to default and outside the etherchannel that i don't get a response.

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