10G RMAN catalog in 9i

Hi,
I can't find this information in any documentation, so this is the best place for it.
Can we create a 10g RMAN catalog on 9i database? If no why? If yes, then is
there any known issue/problem with this?
Thanks....

Hi,
You can create !!
But you might experience the problems, with Backward compatability..
I suppose.. that..
Thanks
Pavan Kumar N

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It is going to be used to backup about 15 databases directly to tape and the retention policy is going to be 35 days. How big the database should be?
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I can't find any documentation supporting Oracle support's theory.And who writes the Oracle documentation? People in this forum?
You got the "Best Practice" advise.
If you have rman catalog on the same server or on the same database, it is like storing your backup on the same server you took it from.
So, the idea od RMAN catalog is to have your catalog available for any recovery. If you cannot recover your recovery catalog, then you are better off using the controlfile as the repository.

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You need to:
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2 - upgrade the recovery catalog Schema
Please check the details on note *452529.1 Recovery catalog for RMAN backup*.
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You can also review RMAN Compatibility Matrix (Note 73431.1) which has all valid version combinations.
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Question: Which is better and why....RMAN catalog or Flashback Recovery

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Newly testing and reading up on 10g. I am on information overload and would appreciate pro's advice on which to choose and why.
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d.

Different things, not necessarily alternative. That is, RMAN catalog is normally (at least should be) on another machine, and does not contain physical backups, but only information about them : physical backups are normally stored on external devices, like tapes.
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Recovery Manager: Release 11.2.0.1.0 - Production on Tue Feb 16 11:21:11 2010
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select dbid,name from rman_user.rc_database;
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<h4>----------------  ----------------</h4>
1498968931       SCSDB
4293064263        SSTDB
861276728         SUBDB
2404423160        SAM
3976246282        SFIDB
1760672514    SCEDB
817528985        S900NS1
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NAME        DB_ID        BS_KEY
<h4>----------------  ----------------  ----------------</h4>
SUBDB        861276728        14366
SUBDB        861276728        14365
SUBDB        861276728        14364
SAM        2404423160        14491
SAM        2404423160        14490
SAM        2404423160       14489
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rman_user.rc_backup_set s
where db_id(+) = dbid
group by name
order by 2 desc;
NAME        MAX(START_TIME)
<h4>----------------  ----------------</h4>
SCEDB
S900NS1
SCSDB
SFIDB
SSTDB
SAM        6/14/2008 1:06:15 AM
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uired
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When I google the error it indicates to change the binary files, but that doesn't work either, unless I don't understand what that entails.
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>
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>
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