11.2.0.3.20 "Basic Lite" Client?

Cross posting from
Re: No "Lite" version of 11.2.0.3.20 ODAC?
on orafad's recommendation (thanks!)
Is there a "basic lite" instant client that corresponds to ODAC 11.2.0.3.20?
I'm assuming it's needed because we're building / deploying on .net 4.5 which is only supported in ODAC 11.2.0.3.20?
I'm mainly looking for the oraociicus11.dll that has limited character sets -- which is about 34 MB -- I don't want to have to ship 125+ meg version unless we absolutely need to.
from orafad's response to my questions -- if it helps to translate to oracle speak :) --
The last .20 is a patch version. Which means it may be that Instant Client was not patched, only some other dlls, and therefor 11.2.0.3 is the latest available.
(Note that individual dll versions may differ from patch version.)
The only a few client character sets - version you are looking for is Basic Lite. And yes name of package matters in this case
I assumes you meant: oraociicus11.dll, which is about 34 MB.
Forum dedicated to Instant Client, to which this thread belongs, Instant Client
Regards, Chad

Looking at
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/windows/downloads/index-101290.html
I see that "ODAC 11.2 Release 5 (11.2.0.3.20)" includes "Oracle Instant Client 11.2.0.3.0".
11.2.0.3.20 seems to only apply to "Oracle Developer Tools for Visual Studio".
So unless Oracle is quite sloppy about their version numbers (which they usually are not)
that would be exactly the same version as the download from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/features/instant-client/index-097480.html
So I would feel safe about removing oraociei11.dll and replacing it with oraociicus11.dl
from Instant Client Basic Lite 10.2.0.3.0.
Also, the Instant Client shared library contains message and time zone files, and the chances
that these change between fixpacks is not so big.
Of course, if you need certainty that this is supported, you'd have to have support and
open a service request.
Yours,
Laurenz Albe

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Here is the scenario...built a VB2005 thin client app/10g backend with 9i client installed on local machine....works great. Tried app on another machine and app failed due to the app requiring OC 8.1.7 or greater (this machine had OC 8.0.6.2c). Built an MSI installer to install Instant Client Basic Lite 10.2 files and update path and installed on this machine. Problem fixed so I thought. Works great on machine which previously had OC 8.06.2c, however when installing the app and Instant client on a machine which never had an Oracle client, the app fails stating Oracle Client 8.1.7 or greater must be installed.
What am I missing?
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Thanks for the quick reply.
It is a .NET app which uses the OracleClientAdapter packaged with VS2005. I find it interesting that installing the instant client in combination with OC 8.0.6.2c results in a working App considering 1) The App requires 8.1.7 or above and 2) the info you just provided that it does not yet support .NET.
To answer your question - on the non-working App on the XP machine that has just the PATH set to Instant Client, ORACLE_HOME is not specified. It's is an end users machine, where it was the first time testing the prototype App.
Do you think setting ORACLE_HOME=x:\instantclient has a chance of making the instant client work on this machine? I will try this out tomorrow as the end user is in town and has offered their machine for a couple of hours.
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Oracle Database Lite Client database performance

Hi,
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Regards
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We had similar problems during the processing phase (delay here points at a client device issue).
We use Dell and HP PDAs, and have databases up to about 40MB. During the acceptance testing a couple of years back we were finding that the processing phase could be upto about 25 minutes on new builds/complete refresh
We tested out a few different scenarios that might help
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2) repeat the above, but remove the SD card before the sync (this forces the databases to be put into my device/built in storage
3) try different types of SD cards
our results found that we would on average get
1) 15-20 minutes
2) 2 minutes
3) big variance of 2.5 to 20 minurtes, but consistent by manufacturer
It seemed that the different speed SD cards made a big difference, and even cards nominally the same speed from different manufacturers were very different in practice.
In some cases (Kingston was one i think), Japananese manufactured cards were much better than the european ones, even though they were supposed to be identical.
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I use the instant client 10.2.0.2 on a w2k/IIS5 machine with no problems at all.
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Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Oracle
2147467259
Oracle client and networking components were not found. etc. etc.
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In the ORACLE_HOME folder (in my situation: C:\Oracle\instantclient_10_2)
I have added the following files to the Bin folder, i got those files from the 10g client cd.
\Bin
oracore10.dll
oranls10.dll
oraunls10.dll
orauts.dll
After that i got a new error:
"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Oracle
Error while trying to retrieve text for error ORA-01019"
Then i added the foloowing files to ORACLE_HOME:
\rdbms\mesg
oraus.msb
The error became clearer:
"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Oracle
ORA-01019: unable to allocate memory in the user side"
I added more:
\oracore\zoneinfo
timezlrg.dat
timezone.dat
Finally i got it to work. I don't know why the instant client is behaving like this. The 10.2.0.2 version cannot be downloaded anymore.
Has someone experienced the same problem? I just want to work with the package as it was downloaded from Oracle, i doubt it was intended to add files from different version. I learned with filemon,regmon and depends from sysinternals that de instantclient looks for other files that arent in de instant client package. Probaly it does not need al the file to work. I have read that when using the file: \rdbms\mesg\oraus.msb can lead to serious performance problems, as it looks for the file many times when quering. I guess this file is only for explenation of errors.
This file can be left out, it work without it.
I hope someone can help me.
Sil Grouwstra
Netherlands

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USA

Redistribute Oracle 9i Lite client

Hi,
I'm having troubles to redistribute Oracle lite with my application on the Windows platform (to Windows '95 up to Windows XP).
How do I redistribute Oracle 9i Lite with my windows application?
Thanks in advance,
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Storing Foreign Characters in oracle 9i Lite Client Database.

Hi All,
My Database configuration Is
RDBMS VERSION 9.0.1.1.1
NLS_CHARACTERSET AL32UTF8
NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET AL16UTF16
NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA
Operating System Windows 2000
My Oracle Lite configuration Is
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Client Locations:
Africa,Europe,Asia,America
Currently all clients store data only in English in the client odb either through java and oracle forms applications.
We want to now store data for some specific tables, in the clients own language.Also we should be able to retrieve that data and see that data as it was entered.
For example :
The client in china after downloading the odb should be able to enter the data for that specific tables in the Chinese language.(They use windows 2000/XP English version).
1. What are the settings i need to do in the client environment?
like installing Chinese font or setting NLS_LANG parameter etc...
2. What are the settings i need to do in the server environment?
Because there should not be any loss of any data or junk values getting stored instead of actual values entered by clients.
Also when i query that specific tables in the oracle database after synchronization i should be able to view that data entered by the clients in their own language.
Eg:data entered by china clients should be visible in chinese fonts,
data entered by brazil clients should be visible in brazilian fonts,
data entered by vietnam clients should be visible in vietnamese fonts.
3. will there be any synchronization issues when clients try to sync after data entry with
their own languages?
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I have given you the info of how to set up Oracle Lite for UTF8. I can only point you in the direction for globalization on the enterprise server. Also note that Oracle Lite only support NLS_LENGHT_SEMANTICS=BYTE, your EE database will be CHAR, so you have to alter the session paramter before you create the repository and/or publish your application.
Here is a Oracle Document on Globalization:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/globalization/pdf/TWP_AppDev_Unicode_10gR2.pdf
Here is what Oracle Lite's Developers Guide has on development of linguistic sorts:
2.11 Support for Linguistic Sort
Linguistic sort is a feature for the ASCII version of Oracle Database Lite. It produces culturally acceptable order of strings for a specified language or collation sequence. The ASCII version supports several code pages defined by single-byte 8-bit encoding schemes. Each of these code pages is a super set of 7-bit ASCII, and the additional accented characters necessary to support a group of European languages are included in the upper 128 bytes. A new string comparison mechanism is provided that produces strings in a linguistically correct order by mapping each collation element of a string to the corresponding 8-bit value of the supported code page.
2.11.1 Creating Linguistic Sort Enabled Databases
The linguistic sort capability must be enabled when the database is created using the CREATEDB command line utility with the <collation_sequence> enabled.
Note:
For more information on the CREATEDB utility, see Section A.2, "CREATEDB".
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2.11.3 Collation Element Examples
Normally, a collation element is just one character. In binary sorting, only one property, the code value that represents a character, is used. But in linguistic sorting, usually three properties. The primary level of difference is the base character. The secondary level of difference is for diacritical marks on a given base character. The tertiary level of difference is for the case of a given character. Punctuation can function as a fourth level of difference, but comparisons for punctuation occur last and are made at the binary rather than the linguistic level. These are used for each collation element. The following sections contain examples that demonstrate sorting priorities.
2.11.3.1 Sorting Normal Characters
This section lists a set of examples that describe how to sort normal characters.
Example 1
'a' < 'b'. There is a primary difference between them on the character level.
Example 2
'À' > 'a'. This difference occurs on the secondary level. Note that 'À'and 'a' are considered "equal" on the primary level.
Example 3
'À' < 'à' in FRENCH but 'À' > 'à' in GERMAN. This difference on the tertiary level. Note that 'À' and 'à' are considered being "equal" on the primary and secondary level. Also note that the case convention may be different for different language.
Example 4
'às' < 'at'. This is a difference on the primary level. This example shows the role of difference levels: the lower level differences are ignored if there is a primary level difference anywhere in the strings.
Example 5
'+data' < '-data' <'data' <'data-'. If strings are compared and present no difference on the primary, secondary, or tertiary levels, they are compared for punctuation.
2.11.3.2 Reverse Sorting of French Accents
Some languages, particularly French, require words to be ordered on the secondary level according to the last accent difference. This behavior is known as French secondary sorting or French accent ordering.
Example
'côte' < 'coté' in FRENCH but 'coté' < 'côte' in GERMAN. Note that the secondary difference of 'e' and 'é' occurred later than those of 'ô' and 'o'.
2.11.3.3 Sorting Contracting Characters
There are some special cases where two or more characters in a group can function as a single collation element. These types of collation elements are called 'contracting characters' or 'group characters'. In these cases each of these characters properties are assigned appropriate values.
Example
'h' < 'ch' < 'i' in XCZECH. Here 'ch' is assigned a primary property value which differentiates it from 'h' and 'i', such that 'h' < 'ch' < 'i'. Note that 'ch' is treated as a single character.
2.11.3.4 Sorting Expanding Characters
If a letter sorts as if it were a sequence of more than one letter, it is called an 'expanding character'. For example, in German the sharp s (ß) is treated as if it were a string of two characters 'ss' when comparing with other letters.
2.11.3.5 Sorting Numeric Characters
Only sorting of single digit characters from '0' to '9' is currently supported. For the supported European languages a digit character is always sorted as greater than any alphabetic character. For other languages this may be not the same. Other numeric characters such as Roman numeric characters and counting sequences, such as "one", "two", "three", are not supported at this time.
Example
'1' > 'z' in any European language, '1' < 'a' in LATVIAN. Note that this difference occurs on the primary level.

Looking fo a basic TCP client

Hi,
after I managed to learn a little more from scratch about networking (thanks for those who argued with me about that ), I am now looking for a higher level class for a TCP communication (which is indeed a response to this previous discussion).
The important features are :
- It must be threaded so that the "listening" process do not block the programm.
- It must have callbacks (which is quite the same as the previous point)
- It must accept "connected" communication
- It must be basic : I don't want to use netservices for example. I juste want to "connect" to a foreign server (according to its IP), and then exchange bytes (I will manage incoming data on my own). Since I don't know what the server will be, data must be as basic as possible.
- No archieving, XML, or any other automatic data formating, including automatic byte swapping : I want to perform it on my own.
- Other expected features are usual ones : safe, light, etc...
I already experimented some like Drew McCormack's one... but this one for example did Archieve a NSData and assumed that the Server could deal with it.
Then... my question (finally!) is : do you know of such a class / lib / framework, ready to use, that I could use?
The client app is developed on an iPhone, but I assume such classes can be deployed on both MacOs an iPhoneOS (but I'd rather specify it in case it could not be).

g_Marvin wrote:
Please to argue with you again
You'll have to refresh my memory. Sorry if I am therefore repeating myself.
Why? : because I assumed I needed those features for a non blocking process.
To clarify a couple of things, you only really use the term "blocking" when referring to I/O. Usually, "blocking" is used when talking about low-level, filesystem I/O. Modern networking code is designed so that you need only do the minimum of "non-blocking" work. You set one socket, the listening socket, to be non-blocking. Then, you run the multiplexor function, select(), using any open file descriptors. The select() function will tell you which of your open file descriptors has any activity. Then, you use the easier "blocking" functions with the assurance that they will not block because there is already data available.
My app will perform some various tasks (such as responding to user actions and compute many data), but must switch to the processing of incoming bytes as soon as needed.
You can handle user action and networking without multithreading. If you have some intensive processing, it would be much easier to move said processing into another thread and keep the I/O in the main thread. Do you need to "process" the incoming bytes as soon as possible, or just read them from the input stream? It is pretty easy to setup a producer-consumer model with a worker thread to process data in the worker thread after you have read the data in the main thread.
It must also be able to handle disconnection from server without blocking the main process (through a "callback")
This usually isn't a problem and doesn't require a callback.
TCP : yes. I know it is "connected". I prefer some things to be said twice (since I happen to miss the first one myself)
You could also use UDP, if you own both sides of the conversation.
"Basic" : I meant something with basic features : no "special" features such as archieving, XML encapsuling, preliminar broadcasting, etc (especially if automatic). Only sockets and some callbacks (don't know if I use the suiting word here). From our previous conversation and my personnal (and recent) experience, I know that this is not a basic thing.
It is pretty basic. Unfortunately, it appears harder from C and C++ than it really needs to be. It might be a good idea to play around with Perl first. You can see how all the network code is supposed to work without getting bogged down in the details.
C Sockets I already tried (according to my previous question you also helped about). This works but is not safe at all (many runtime errors).
It should be perfectly safe if you do proper error handling. But I agree that said error handling can be complex.
NSFileHandle : didn't know it at all... but it looked very attractive. I am having a look at it.
NSStream and CFNetwork : I suppose they are to be used together.
Not necessarily. They are both wrappers around the C code, as is NSFileHandle.

Date format for oracle lite client database

hello....
When data is entered opened on the oracle lite webtogo OC4J client is giving the following errors:
JBO-25009: Cannot create an object of type:java.sql.Date with value:2/21/08 12:00 AM
JBO-27014: Attribute CreationDate in AppModule.ApplicantIncomesView1 is required
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user6998712 wrote:
Hi all,
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Hi all,
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What lite client installation i should to use for OraOLEDB.Oracle

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There are two configsets by default. Configset 1 is
for synchronization and Configset 0 is used by
provisioning (again, these are default settings).
You cannot have two odisrv (Provisioning and Synch)
with the same instance #.
So, instance 1 could be Provisioning and instance 2
could be Synch.
Have you setup your synchronization mapping files?
I would suggest you use the DIPTester utility to
setup the synch. It might also be helpful to post the
commands and the odisrv* logs (not the full dump, but
the last snippet).Well I was trying to use ConfigSet 1 for synchronization but it either wouldn't let me because of how it is designed or I had screwed it up at that point since I didn't know what numbers to use for anything and it prevented me from using Set1 because of that. In the end I created a ConfigSet 2 and was able to get another instance of ODISRV running with that. That finally got the sync working on a scheduled basis. I'm now trying to get SSO working between OID and ADS and it seems that OID is too stupid to know that a user exists. I log onto the Windows PC into the domain and attempt to go to http://ssoServer.com:7778/pls/portal and login and I get an authorization denied message.
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Can't receive calls on Lync 2013 mobile app on iPad Air while signed into Lync 2013 Basic desktop client.

Is there a setting I can change on mobile app or desktop app that will allow this to work?
I like to stay signed into the desktop client so I can manage my contacts as well as chat with co-workers, but I don't have a camera or microphone so I need to answer calls on my iPad.

Normally, both client on Ipad and computer can receive the call.
Can you test it on your mobile phone?
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Please try to update your Lync client to the latest version.
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Heap Error during Windows OCIEnvCreate() call

During a call to:
OCIEnvCreate(&m_handles.m_pOCIEnv,
                         OCI_THREADED | OCI_OBJECT,
                         NULL,
                         NULL, NULL, NULL,
                         0, (dvoid **)0);
A crash occurs which reports the following in the MSVC 2005 debug output window:
HEAP[AutoTest.EnvironmentPkg.DatabaseConnectionManager.exe]: Invalid Address specified to RtlFreeHeap( 00150000, 0015ED80 )
Windows has triggered a breakpoint in AutoTest.EnvironmentPkg.DatabaseConnectionManager.exe.
This may be due to a corruption of the heap, and indicates a bug in AutoTest.EnvironmentPkg.DatabaseConnectionManager.exe or any of the DLLs it has loaded.
We are using version 10.2.0.3 of the Oracle Basic Lite client on Windows XP, called via SQLAPI++.
I have verified that the memory we allocate is not being corrupted before this call. Using Compuware's Boundschecker VS add-in, I've verified that the heap error is in a memory range allocated by oraociicus10.dll. Since the OCIEnvCreate call is the first time that oraociicus10.dll allocates memory (i.e. my code doesn't have a chance to trample Oracle's data structures), there's a good chance IMO that it's an internal Oracle problem.
Boundschecker reports errors such as:
Pointer Error: When calling LocalFree, pointer 0x03A60A5C is not at the beginning of the block 0x03A60998 (65536) allocated by LocalAlloc.
These errors are reported in a Debug build; the same kind of error happens during a Release build.
According to a previous thread, a special release of the OCCI interface DLLs was needed to fix MSVC 2005 compatibility issues like this one. (See Debug in Visual Studio 2005 (vs8) ? )
I've posted looking for any such release for OCI DLLs, but haven't found any yet ( MSVC 2005 compatible OCI DLLs? )
My questions:
1. Could this be a compatibility problem between the OCI DLLs and MSVC 2005? and
2. If not, what could the problem be?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Are you using the oracle thin client ...?? Try using the full client install.
Is it working with OCI_DEFAULT or OCI_THREADED alone ???
Please note the following points in WINDOWS Platform.;
1)Try always a fresh installation for Oracle and VS products.Preferably a clean install of the OS.
2)If don't want to remove OS , do a clean UNINSTALL (This should include a complete clean up in the Registry and file systems).
3)Always reboot the system before and after installations and try your code.
If the above sequences are followed most of the DLL/LIB problem are solved for me.

Client Upgrade issue in Oracle Lite Database 10g 10.3.0.3.0

Hi all,
Details: My Environment is Oracle Database 11g R1(11.1.0.6.0) With Oracle Lite Database 10g R3(10.3.0.3.0) on Windows 2003 Server R2 SP2.
Recently i have upgrade my oracle lite database from 10.3.0.2.0 to 10.3.0.3.0 and also applied recent opatch (p12812978_103030_Generic.zip). Upgrade and installation of opatch got successfully completed. When i tried the client synchornization for the very first time (FCS and Data Download) FCS and Data Download got Successfully completed but the problem is usually Once the FCS and Data Download Got Completed , Screen goto webtogo home page but in my case i am getting a screen name called "client upgrade" with options yes or no if choose yes it prompting please wait screen nearly for 1 hours i am not getting any response from the screen. if choose no simply it goto my webtogo home page. Please Note before choosing the yes option i have checked what version i am currently having it show 10.3.0.3 i don't know why it asking for the client upgrade. Please Advice me on this how to avoid this screen (Client Upgrade).
Thanks
Shan

Hi,
i am not upgrading the existing environment of Oracle Lite Client i am creating a new environment which doesn't have the Oracle Lite Client. In the document itself they have mentioned like this "These steps assume that you have a 10g Release 1 or 2 Branch Office environment already configured and synchronized. If you do not have this environment currently configured, you do not need to upgrade." To be Clear What i am doing is with help Oracle Lite Branch Office i will be downloading a user from Mobile Server for that i have to do the following
1.FCS(Fresh Client Setup for that i have to run the setup.exe which is coming for Oracle Lite Branch Office) and
2.Data download (Data will be get download from Mobile Server in the form of odb),
3. Usually Once the FCS and Data Download got completed, the screen will goto the webtogo home there i can see my branch offlice applications.
4. But in my case i am getting prompted by screen and the screen name called "Client Upgrade" with options yes or no if i choose yes screen got hanged else if i choose no then only screen moving the webtogo home page. Say can u r having existing environment in your machine due to some reasons u have upgrade or u have installed optach on the mobile server in that case while doing the client synchronication we can do the client upgrade by running the update.exe becasue client side will having the old binary file we need to renew it.
5. But I am not upgrading the existing environment. I am creating a new environment which means i am doing a fresh client setup and synchronization for the very first time. While doing the FCS on my client side for the very first time i will be getting the latest binaries rite then why the screen is moving to client upgarde page i don't have any idea on this.
Please Advice.
Thanks
Shan

Lync 2013 basic client msi

Hi all,
Anyone knows where can I find .msi file for Lync 2013 basic client? Microsoft website only have .exe which doesn't work with GPO software deployment.
Thanks

The Basic client doesn't come in an MSI version, the following two links might help you work with the extracted exe:
http://unifiedme.co.uk/2013/04/silent-installation-of-lync-basic-2013-client/
http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/1503-how-to-deploy-office-2010-using-gpo-and-oct
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So I want to create my own IRC client...

I've wanted to make my own IRC client for a long time now. As soon as I switched from winfailure a few months ago (I think nearly a year now! ), actually.
As time went by I've slowly, begrudgingly gotten used to irssi, but with gritted teeth all the same. On winfailure, I used HydraIRC, and while this application was quite good, its supposedly open source license wasn't free as in free speech, only as in free beer. So while the code was open, it was only opened such that the code couldn't be used in other projects. Stab.
Anyway, I used this client for the better part of a year, and while it lacked quite a few things that would have probably turned others away like the complete lack of a scripting engine, it did what I wanted pretty well, and set an operational standard, if you will, that I got used to and have not found anywhere else. Yet.
So I want to recreate the standard I picked up on but for POSIX platforms (except for cygwin), and introduce some features of my own too. I simply don't know where to start, however.
Note that the subject says "create", not "write" - after asking around a bit in IRC ##linux recommended I try taking two IRC clients that have the features I want and merging their codebases. I've never done something like this before but I think it'd probably be fairly interesting, if not trying.
So, I'll list the features I'm looking for, and perhaps you can give me some suggestions on 1) how I'd either implement this myself or 2) a client with X feature already coded in. Thanks.
The features I'm looking for:
- Code Simplicity: This is the most important, to me, in the case of using others' code. Complex code (just look at rxvt if you want complex code) will just confuse and down-hearten me and make me run away.
- A network-oriented model: I want a client with a daemon, or server, that connects to my networks and performs most "heavyweight" takes, and a client, which just handles display. Quassel does this to an extent but is horribly underdeveloped and I don't have a system powerful enough to handle running Qt on a long-term basis (since I already tend to use GTK apps). I also don't know C++.
- Multiple clients: This is the second most important. I really need this one. I want to be able to have a "main" client that can connect to the server and manage general tasks, and a "light" text-based, console-driven client that connects and can be run over ssh, for example. Quassel completely falls apart here because it uses KDE's network-IPC libraries to transfer data from the server to the client, which a quick check with Wireshark showed to be binary. And I wouldn't want my "lite" client to require KDE, or at least KDE's libraries - that'd just be majorly weird.
- Speed: I want the client to be fast and responsive at all times, even on slower systems, and even when I'm connected to a lot of channels.
- Scriptability: It doesn't need to be complex, like Perl's library that applications can bind in. That's overmuch IMHO and, most importantly, slow.
I don't think one particular client meets those needs, but a few of you will probably shout "xchat!" Well, X-Chat is... not my thing. If irssi could be considered very far away from HydraIRC in terms of operation, X-Chat is the same distance away twice over. It doesn't operate the same way at all.
So, now that I've loosely explained the features I want, let me now explain another thing I want to be able to do.
Despite having hardware in dire need of upgrading right now (these systems aren't nearly that bad, but Firefox tends to eat my 512MB of RAM up pretty quickly, and I recently found all the PCs this house has in it 99% likely can't use DDR2 RAM, which isn't too good), I hope and believe that one day I'll upgrade to considerably better equipment with extensive graphics support. With this newer hardware I hope to create a new kind of UI model with animation integrated into the look-and-feel model of the UI the same way images are used for the same purpose today, GPLv3 license it so corporations can't steal it and use it in their products, and then bind it into my IRC client.
However, I want to start now, before I upgrade. With this in mind, I don't know whether I should make my own GUI toolkit, or use an existing toolkit now and rewrite half the codebase later to support my own graphics and animations. I'm not very good at making things that are programmatically extensible and flexible, so I don't really know what to do here. Simple hand-rolled toolkits such as dialogs with some text and a button can be managed in under ~250 lines of code, but anything bigger, and, well... you get stuff like GTK and KDE, whose toolkit libraries in total are both on the order of over a couple of MBs each, and have been in development for years, and continue to evolve rapidly today. If you're careful, you end up with FLTK, which I don't like the look of at all.
In addition to that, I want my client to be fast, even on slower computers. Right now, I have a 3-screen setup, with each screen being driven by a separate PC. The one on the right - the one I'd be putting my IRC client on - is a 450MHz P3 with 320MB of RAM. It runs X on a 4MB VGA card at 800x600. This is where I currently run an irssi session over ssh and screen. To give you an idea of the graphical power of this machine, antialiased Xft fonts with urxvt take 0.15 seconds to "scroll" when I say something in IRC. However, it's a capable PC if I harness its capability right, and is where I'd target my IRC client. And I dislike seeing my fonts redraw - I dislike seeing anything redraw, for that matter.
You might think I'm crazy, writing an IRC client for one of the slowest PCs in the house that works, that I in future want to extend to use a graphics layer that I hope to develop on a server-class Nehalem workstation with an insane amount of RAM and a pair of SLI'd GTX 280s in it.
I don't think I'm crazy. I'm using what I have to give back to the open source community, and using what I consider to be an cunning operational model to do it: back when the 450MHz P3 I spoke of was the only "main" working PC I had, I designed, in none other than Visual Basic 1.0, a media center UI. On Windows 98. In 2006. And, you know what, despite the fact that the animations it used were pretty basic, it actually looked really, really good. And why was this? Because I used software designed for 486DX2s running at 33MHz with 4 or 6MB of RAM, on a P3, with 128MB of RAM (yes, I've upgraded it since), clocked at 450MHz. The result? Blinding, optimized, speed. You really should try the older versions of VB sometime - I managed to score a copy of VB 2.0 which is legal to distribute because its "Make EXE" (ie compile) function is crippled. Email me and I'll mail you a copy - it's completely legal.
In the same manner, if I design this IRC client and carefully construct it so its client/server model works capably on my two PCs, my server (a machine not unlike the P3 I've been discussing - my server just has more hard disks in it, a 50MHz faster processor, runs my left-hand display and my IRC network) and my old desktop (the 450MHz box I've mentioned so much), when I finally bring it over to my new computer it'll be so fast that it'll be as if the computer is registering keypresses before I even type them. And that's the kind of performance I want to couple with shinyyy graphics.
Sorry this sounded halfway between a motivational speech, a request for help, and a coder's dilemma. lol
-dav7

Bit of an update: Varreon emailed me regarding VB 2.0 and we had a bit of a discussion regarding the language I planned to use.
He said it would be fine to post our conversation, so here's how it panned out:
Varreon wrote:...What language were you planning on writing your client in? I've written an irc bot in c++, and I'll upload my source code if you're interested in looking through it.
dav7 wrote:
Well, I'm not all that sure what language I want to use just yet.
I know I want it to be extensible, so I could either use a high-level, extensible but slow scripting language to power the client as a whole, or I could go down a path already travelled, proved extremely successful and in my opinion cleaner, and embed a scripting language, which would negate the requirement for a high-level language but still facilitate customization.
All the same, I'm not really all that sure what language to use.
C++ isn't really my thing - on my current computers, g++ takes maybe 3 seconds to compile the smallest of source files, and while that isn't *really * all that long, I'm not all that patient. As it stands I consider /gcc/ too slow for my preferences and use tcc instead - you might like to try it if you're on a 32-bit system.
I'll probably move to C++ when I get a new PC, but for now, all I really find fast enough for my liking is C, and I'm a little concerned that C might be a little too low-level for what I want to design here - beyond scriptability, I want the client itself to be easily extended in various directions. Of course the client will only appeal to a specific market (in an open source sense), but I do want it to feel organic and something that can be extended in as many directions as possible. So C probably won't be the language I use, and since C++ is slow to compile, it's probably going to be off the list as well.
All the same, I'm not concerned about speed in the irrational way I have been in the past, but at the same time I do need to be careful in my thinking regardless of the language I use since don't want a client that lags to death. A good example of a slow program is SciTE - the text editor I'm typing this in, Geany, uses the same edit control it uses (Scintilla, which is written in C++, AFAIK), and while this component has a good degree of editorial control, scrolling with the scroll wheel can be slow. Also, when I recently tried to run SciTE on an old laptop I found on the side of the road (AMD K-6, 350MHz, 32MB RAM), I discovered that just *typing* would lag the system horribly - typing about 15 keystrokes quickly resulted in a lag of about 6 seconds after which what I typed would appear all at once. Typing single keys - slowly - resulted in a delay of around 0.20-0.39ms (guessed).
Regarding scripting, I had my eyes on one embeddable language in particular but I forgot what it was called, so I headed to Wikipedia for a quick hunt-down session for it and managed to discover Falcon, which appears to use a VM but is at the same time the same insanely fast because it uses a C/C++-only policy for its modules. It also advertises itself as a scripting engine "ready to empower mission-critical multithreaded applications" so I'm considering Falcon to be a possible engine to integrate, and on a slightly long shot, even the language I might end up using. I also think hunting the first language I considered down and embedding that might be a nice idea, and I also might embed Perl. I'd love to be able to embed Ruby.
Overall however, I do need to contain my enthusiasm - the desire to throw in multiple scripting engines, awe-inspiring compositing graphics layers, and support for multiple protocols isn't such a bad idea, but if not controlled will result in serious featuritis, which when combined with a verbose, low-level language will only result in me throwing myself at the project too hard "to get it done", with proven disastrous results.
-dav7
[ Note, there's an update in a follow-up post below this one that affects the information you see here - just so you know ]
I've done some consideration since that email and it's possible that C++ might be able to be brought onto the table. This was mostly inspired by the good outcome I had with writing a couple of modules for InspIRCd, which uses C++, compared to my previous attempt when I knew no C.
The main thing I'm a little indecisive about at the moment is the toolkit; I want something that's fast but doesn't look all that bad; FLTK is, as I've said previously, not something I like the look of - it does appear to be somewhat themable but it's impossible to escape the fact that it values speed over shininess, and while this is excellent for my current target, I don't want to develop something that relies on it so heavily that it's next to impossible to port to whatever I end up using when it's time to get the graphics in, such as a UI model on top of an OpenGL canvas.
The second thing I'm unsure of is what scripting language I should use. I've done quite a bit of looking around - mostly to try and find that language I mentioned that I lost - and found quite a lot of possibilities, and even discovered that with some work (well, a lot of work, admittedly) it's even possible to embed Ruby into C++, and have Ruby call user-defined C++ functions and so on. It's not an official part of the project, but someone managed it nonetheless.
It seems to be possible to embed popular languages such as Perl, Python, Tcl, Lua, etc, but then there are lesser-known languages designed for embedding, such as Nesla, AngelScript and the like (such as that language I can't find, heh). And of course I could also embed a JavaScript engine, which would probably be very odd but all the same quite an experience.
Then there's Falcon, which appears to be a pretty good language in general but doesn't appear to have all that many modules available for it just yet, so doesn't seem to suit my purposes.
So, summing up:
- I don't know how I should develop this in terms of graphics - should I wait for a new PC and just use SDL or whatever I'm going to use, use a toolkit and either rewrite half of everything at some other point or juggle two display methods, or what?
- The number of scripting languages out there is mind-boggling. To me, it's not what syntax the language uses, or whether it's statically or dynamically typed, or how readable it is, it's #1 how fast it is, and #2 how suitable it would be in the context of an IRC client - string manipulation (even on every incoming and/or outgoing message), user interface control, and so on.
-dav7
Last edited by dav7 (2009-02-16 09:25:49)

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