11g R2 wont work under windows 2008 R2 doesnt support UTC, and cant change.

I posted this in error under general, and got no responses. So now Im cutting and pasting it into installation, in a last ditched attemtp to find a way to get a clean installation of oralce on a clean installation of Windows Server 2008 R2 working.
Problem:
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2) em console "Sepecify Host and Target Database Credentials" always says "Connection refused: connect", even though the OS user/pass and DB user/pass are correct.
What does work:
1) I can "select * from dual" using "sqlplus / as sysdba" from the commandline on the box itself.
2) Once, before I got em console half working, I could connect to the DB from outside the box with SYS as SYSDBA using toad. Now I cant.
How I installed it:
1) created a user called "oracle" and put them in the Administrators group.
2) ran the downloaded installer for enterprise version, partition option chosen, AL32UTF8 char set, global db name: orcl, sid: orcl, "Assert all new security settings on" (No idea what this is) etc.
3) at the end of the installer it came up with the following error:
"Set the environment variable ORACLE_UNQNAME to the database unique name"
3.5) opened up the incomming connections in the windows FW for 1158 and 1521 TCP from all.
4) set ORACLE_UNQNAME as a system env var for oracle as "orcl"
5) set ORACLE_HOME to c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0 (or should this be c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1 ??)
6) set ORACLE_SID to orcl
7) set ORACLE_HOST to dilbert (the machine name)
Rebooted.
8) logged into em console on https:
dilbert:1158 (works from inside or outside the box).
9) Entered the oracle windows user userame & pass, and SYS and pass (with connect as SYSDBA). However, it always says "Connectoin refused: connect"
Im not using a domain. computer name is correctly setup as "dilbert" in the OS.
I cant think of anything to try, and dont know how to start debugging this problem.
If I look at the running services, i see:
OracleDBConsolorcl Stopped
OracleJobSchedulerORCL Stopped
OracleMTSRecoveryService Stopped
OracleOraDb11g_home1CLRAgent stopped
OracleORADb11g_home1TNSListener Stopped
OracleServiceORCL Running
OrclVssWriterORCL Stopped
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The others which I succeded in starting are still running. So TNSListener nor jobscheduler will start, and Consolerocl kills itself after a minute.
Well, looks like I'm on my own on this one. Oracle will not intall on windows, and none seems to have noticed. Doing a day of googling reveals that all the log files which are supposed to live in sysman/log do not exist in this installation, so no help there.
However, I did find an obscure log which says:
The agentTZRegion value in C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\wario_orcl/sysman/config/emd.properties is not in agreement with what agent thinks it should be.Please verify your environment to make sure that TZ setting has not changed since the last start of the agent.
The TZ of the windows server is set to "UTC" at long time ago. There is nothing in the oralce windows installation guide to say "Do not use UTC, the most comon server time zone in europe". There is no mention of supported windows timezones.
Now if Oracle doesnt support basic UTC, then we are all in trouble.
There are hundreds of articles with this problem and how to solve it on Unix, but almost none for Windows. Do we have to solve Oracle installation bugs ourselves? Is there no support?
Doing the below reveals that Oracle thinks that UTC is America/Rio_Branco. That HAS to be a bug.
C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\BIN>emctl config agent getTZ
Oracle Enterprise Manager 11g Database Control Release 11.2.0.1.0
Copyright (c) 1996, 2010 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
Unable to open file for logging. C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1/wario_orc
l/sysman/log/emctl.log: Permission denied
America/Rio_Branco
So what next?
The list of "supported" timezones in supportedtzs.list only lists UNIX timezones, and NO UTC!!!!!
Googling this turns up nothing - noone on the planet seems to use UTC on their servers. I find this absolutely shocking.
Windows server ONLY users UTC - it doesnt support GMT any more.
So I have to now randomly try timezones in Windows which I dont want, which will be different from all the other servers in the Datacenter. It means all our reports will be out by 1 hour in summer ifI have to chose a timzeone which has daylight savings, compared with all the other databases which are UTC (not daylight savings).
I would expect this from freeware maintained by one person in his garage.
It seems that this Timezone issue emans Oracle will not run on windows.
Tried a lot of things, including setting the timzeonse in windows to be "(UTC) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London", which unfortuantely is not UTC (as it is affected by daylight savings).
When you run
"emctl config agent getTZ"
you get:
"Europe/London"
The only oracle documentation I can find on this subject tells you to edit the emd.properties, and modify the agentTZRegion property, which doesnt exist.
I tried the following command:
"c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\BIN>emctl resetTZ agent"
Which tells you to execute:
SQL> exec mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London')
SQL> commit
However, when I do this, I get:
SQL> exec mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London')
BEGIN mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London'); END;
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-20233: Invalid agent name wario:3938
ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_TARGET", line 3811
ORA-06512: at line 1
Great. Obviosly, Im loggin in as SYS as no other users have been setup, and certainly I have not seen nor created nor set the password for "em repository user".

I posted this in error under general, and got no responses. So now Im cutting and pasting it into installation, in a last ditched attemtp to find a way to get a clean installation of oralce on a clean installation of Windows Server 2008 R2 working.
Problem:
1) cannt connect to oracle outside of box. Get "TNS Connection timeout occured"
2) em console "Sepecify Host and Target Database Credentials" always says "Connection refused: connect", even though the OS user/pass and DB user/pass are correct.
What does work:
1) I can "select * from dual" using "sqlplus / as sysdba" from the commandline on the box itself.
2) Once, before I got em console half working, I could connect to the DB from outside the box with SYS as SYSDBA using toad. Now I cant.
How I installed it:
1) created a user called "oracle" and put them in the Administrators group.
2) ran the downloaded installer for enterprise version, partition option chosen, AL32UTF8 char set, global db name: orcl, sid: orcl, "Assert all new security settings on" (No idea what this is) etc.
3) at the end of the installer it came up with the following error:
"Set the environment variable ORACLE_UNQNAME to the database unique name"
3.5) opened up the incomming connections in the windows FW for 1158 and 1521 TCP from all.
4) set ORACLE_UNQNAME as a system env var for oracle as "orcl"
5) set ORACLE_HOME to c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0 (or should this be c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1 ??)
6) set ORACLE_SID to orcl
7) set ORACLE_HOST to dilbert (the machine name)
Rebooted.
8) logged into em console on https:
dilbert:1158 (works from inside or outside the box).
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Im not using a domain. computer name is correctly setup as "dilbert" in the OS.
I cant think of anything to try, and dont know how to start debugging this problem.
If I look at the running services, i see:
OracleDBConsolorcl Stopped
OracleJobSchedulerORCL Stopped
OracleMTSRecoveryService Stopped
OracleOraDb11g_home1CLRAgent stopped
OracleORADb11g_home1TNSListener Stopped
OracleServiceORCL Running
OrclVssWriterORCL Stopped
nd if i try and start those services as oracle (who is in the Administrators group) it says "The operation could not be completed. Access is denied". If I run task manager as Administrator, I can start all of them except for the TNSListener which doesnt do anything, you say start, and it stays stopped. No errors, now warnings. and the JobSchedulreORCL which says no associated devices.
HAving manually started some of the services (no idea if you are supposed to do that, cant find any installation documentation which covers before/after running the installer), when I try and specify the host and target database credentials in em console, it says:
Validation Error
Please correct the following error:
dbUserPassword - This field must be specified
However, the DB password for SYS IS specified and correct - so I have no way to fix this.
I cant find anyinformatin online where to look for log files, but there is nothing in sysman\log
Now em console is saying "Conection refused" again, and the following process have killed themselves (as will I soon)
OracleDBConsolercl Stoppped
The others which I succeded in starting are still running. So TNSListener nor jobscheduler will start, and Consolerocl kills itself after a minute.
Well, looks like I'm on my own on this one. Oracle will not intall on windows, and none seems to have noticed. Doing a day of googling reveals that all the log files which are supposed to live in sysman/log do not exist in this installation, so no help there.
However, I did find an obscure log which says:
The agentTZRegion value in C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\wario_orcl/sysman/config/emd.properties is not in agreement with what agent thinks it should be.Please verify your environment to make sure that TZ setting has not changed since the last start of the agent.
The TZ of the windows server is set to "UTC" at long time ago. There is nothing in the oralce windows installation guide to say "Do not use UTC, the most comon server time zone in europe". There is no mention of supported windows timezones.
Now if Oracle doesnt support basic UTC, then we are all in trouble.
There are hundreds of articles with this problem and how to solve it on Unix, but almost none for Windows. Do we have to solve Oracle installation bugs ourselves? Is there no support?
Doing the below reveals that Oracle thinks that UTC is America/Rio_Branco. That HAS to be a bug.
C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\BIN>emctl config agent getTZ
Oracle Enterprise Manager 11g Database Control Release 11.2.0.1.0
Copyright (c) 1996, 2010 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
Unable to open file for logging. C:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1/wario_orc
l/sysman/log/emctl.log: Permission denied
America/Rio_Branco
So what next?
The list of "supported" timezones in supportedtzs.list only lists UNIX timezones, and NO UTC!!!!!
Googling this turns up nothing - noone on the planet seems to use UTC on their servers. I find this absolutely shocking.
Windows server ONLY users UTC - it doesnt support GMT any more.
So I have to now randomly try timezones in Windows which I dont want, which will be different from all the other servers in the Datacenter. It means all our reports will be out by 1 hour in summer ifI have to chose a timzeone which has daylight savings, compared with all the other databases which are UTC (not daylight savings).
I would expect this from freeware maintained by one person in his garage.
It seems that this Timezone issue emans Oracle will not run on windows.
Tried a lot of things, including setting the timzeonse in windows to be "(UTC) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London", which unfortuantely is not UTC (as it is affected by daylight savings).
When you run
"emctl config agent getTZ"
you get:
"Europe/London"
The only oracle documentation I can find on this subject tells you to edit the emd.properties, and modify the agentTZRegion property, which doesnt exist.
I tried the following command:
"c:\app\oracle\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\BIN>emctl resetTZ agent"
Which tells you to execute:
SQL> exec mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London')
SQL> commit
However, when I do this, I get:
SQL> exec mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London')
BEGIN mgmt_target.set_agent_tzrgn('wario:3938','Europe/London'); END;
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-20233: Invalid agent name wario:3938
ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_TARGET", line 3811
ORA-06512: at line 1
Great. Obviosly, Im loggin in as SYS as no other users have been setup, and certainly I have not seen nor created nor set the password for "em repository user".

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