12.7mm Ultrabay adapter

So I bought a W530 with the 320GB HDD, and I have the 12.7mm Ultrabay adapter for another hard drive I'm going to install. I'd like to place the other hard drive, an Intel SSD, into the main drive slot, with the HDD in the Ultrabay adapter. I'm not sure what I need - do I just need the 9mm rails for the Intel drive, or do I also need a caddy for the HDD?

aangrist:
What is the size of the HDD, 7mm or 9.5? If it's the 7mm you will need the adaptor rails in order for it to fit properly.
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detail.page?&DocID=PD022801
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IBM P/N 04W1641 = SSD SPACER (Hard Spacer Rails for a SSD)
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E) From Sales, IBM P/N 41V9756 = RUBBER SHEET FRU (Rubber Rails for SSD or HDD in the Main Drive Bay)
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I've read the threads and have seen where people shim and cut the rubber rails depending on the drive size. No offense intended but I want to install the correct and perfectly sized config.
I'd like to buy genuine parts so I'm really trying hard to make use of the above IBM parts. The questions below will help me decide on what my SSD mounting config should consist of.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the following info anywhere.
1) Do any of the IBM rail kits listed above in D & E come with a caddy tray & screws?
The newmodeus TP-60 does so I am concerned a tray and screws are needed for a proper tight/secure fit.
2) Do either of the stock Lenovo 500GB 7200 RPM HDD drives ship installed with a caddy tray, screws, and rubber rail config in the main drive bay? If no, what is the config?
3) Is the intended Lenovo design, to always use a caddy tray and rails?
4) Has anyone purchased a W530 with a SSD in the main drive bay and if yes, did it have a caddy tray attach for use with its rails?
5) if a SSD was initially purchased, did it ship with just the hard SSD SPACER rails and no tray?
6) If someone has purchased the IBM rail kits, do all three of the kits have the same outside height dimensions?
7) Does anyone have these dimension(s)?
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9) If yes to question 8, is it a perfect tight/snug fit without any gaps, space, or room to jar loose?
* Concern here that the 12.7mm Bay is bigger and the locking mechanism on the bay will not provide a tight fit. *
Sorry for all the questions and the above novel. If it were easy, we'd either be monkeys or paying Lenovo for the integrated parts.
Hoping I can just port the existing HDD/rails/tray over to the Bay. Then it's a matter of how my SSD should be mounted in the inside of the main drive bay.
ANY help, to any of the above comments or questions would be greatly appreciated!!
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Thanks harrisb!
Your solution makes sense. I found the newmodeus bay after my bundled purchase of the W530, the 12.7mm Bay and the MiniDock. Also found this forum after the transaction. It's a shame but it really seems like the Lenovo Bay is making this more difficult than it should be due to the lack of info.
Unfortunately, UPS is delivering my Lenovo Bay and Dock today. The SSD and RAM has also shipped and is due to arrive this week as is the W530.
The only thing that hasn't been purchased is the SSD and HDD mounting gear.
With this info what would you or anyone else do at this point?
Would purchasing the newmodeus TP-60 Tray, Screws, and rails work with the SSD in the Main Drive bay?
Would the HDD and it's default rails/tray fit perfectly/securely in the 12.7mm Bay?
Would the kit that comes on the HDD still work on the SSD in the Main Drive and then use the newmodeus TP-60 kit on the HDD in the Bay?
There's also the IBM parts? Just concerned they don't come with the tray or screws. And, they won't fit securely in the main drive or bay.
Really appreciate the speedy reply!!
P.S. Got the OCZ due to the great IOPS specs.
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