12" iBook won't startup

iBook / 800 mhz / Power PC / 128mb ram
not sure which OSX maybe 4 ?
I got the spinning beach ball of death while using
Word with a 68 page document.
I could not force quit, no dialog showed when I tried.
The SB of D turned back to a cursor when out the Word doc.
I turned the computer off.
When tried to start again I got :
the chime
the grey screen
the apple
then no further progress
I tried safe mode boot, same result
I tried booting from install CD, it added the gear spinning
but froze after about 30 sec.
I tried booting from Techtool deluxe, as above
I tried booting from Hardware Test which ran and said all passed
but on pressing the restart option in the dialog the computer froze again.
I have a 15" MacbookPro,
can I start using it as Target mode
and maybe erase fresh install
I don't know anything about this just seem to recall something
in the back of my mind
thanks
D

That's the disc I tried to start from but the OSX on the computer
had been updated, not sure to what.
So I'm thinking reinstall or whatever the correct term is
Is that the only installer disc you have? If so, it's the only version of OSX you are going to be able to reinstall. Any major version jump (10.2 to 10.3, or 10.2 to 10.4) requires a totally different set of discs.
The Word version is from Office 2004
Here's a link to reported [Office 2004 requirements|http://www.it.northwestern.edu/software/office/requirements.html#m ac]. Note 256MB RAM. You can try with less but you live on the edge which means maybe falling over.
The machine had been running fine as it was only used for
word processing and had opened and worked on much larger docs.
And probably worked okay because you weren't very demanding. As soon as something tiny went awry it sent the machine into a fugue.
The drive read and opened the Hardware Test CD.
Okay, so it could be more fundamental hardware. If all you have is 128MB RAM and some of that goes bad then the only RAM you have is messing up. AHT is not always good at detecting that.
I did post in iBook forum and should maybe post in OSX an earlier version
Don't post in too many place at once because otherwise people will be talking at cross purposes in the various forums. Give it a try in ibook forum first. I just suggested another forum because it seemed pretty clear that whatever it was it wasn't a Tiger OS issue.

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