12" PowerBook vs MacBook?

I posted this in the MacBook section and didn't get anything helpful. I'll paste it here to try again...
Hi,
New here. What's the benefit on the MB over the small PB if both were configured with the same memory and HD size. I'm looking at the small PB via the Refurbished section.
I have NO intention of ever putting Win XP on whatever I get. I have plenty of other Wintel computers. I really just want to do iTunes and photo management with OS X. It's more of a toy. That's what interests me in the smallest size workable. I have a 15.4" widescreen laptop now and it feels like a tank when I take it somewhere. I have to use Windows all day at work on a 14" widescreen Dell. I do ZERO gaming if that's a factor.
I really like the small size factor of the 12" PB. Pricewise they're only about $20 bones different when both are configured w/ 80GB HD's and an AppleCare plan(I have an ECC discount).
Anybody here use the small PB? What ISN'T good about them? I would have to install iLife 06 on the PB if I get that one.
Thanks...

I have the 12" PB. I had a Macbook Pro for about a week and returned it a few hours ago.
I have reverted back to my trustee 12" PB and while I was returning the MBP, I decided to pick up a 1gb stick, now that its cheaper. Also, I had put a 512gb in it awhile ago and figured I'd fill it up since I took the MBP back. I think it feels faster, I'll know if the beach ball comes up less.
Has the 12'incher served me? Yes! The small form factor is great. Sometimes I do need more real estate and when that happens, I just connect it to my 20" monitor (non apple). I really like to be able to lug it around in the house ie: lounging on the couch, in the kitchen, bedroom etc. (I'm wireless too) I can backpack it and it's not too heavy. Love the portability.
I also have a 14 inch wide screen HP laptop for Windows with glossy screen. I don't want to compare this lappy with the Macbook but just a perspective on the screen size and glossy screen. I must be getting old but I find the fonts are getting smaller. The glossy screen was cool at first but after awhile it starts to hurt my eyes and sometimes I get a glare, which annoys me. The wide screen aspect is nice when viewing DVD's but I still do feel the limitations even with this size.
BUT the whole reason I bot the smaller screens is the portability. I also have a 15.4 wide lappy Windows (gave it to my daughter) I felt like Mini Me when lugging that around but loved the bigger screen size.
So lets back track abit. Yes, I recently picked up the 15.4 inch MacBook Pro and returned it. It had a very nice big screen and it felt big, especially coming from a 12" PB. I thought I wanted the bigger size and am still undecided. However, I mainly took back the unit because it was emitting a high pitch whine when running on battery only. I like my laptops quite.
I had read up on the MacBook and MacBook Pro and even the Mini Mac Duo Core. I ho'd and hum'd when looking over the MB and MBP at the store. The black and white units both look smart..hard to decide..if I had to pick, I guess black but would really prefer it in aluminium. If it was, I would have picked the 13.3 size over the 15.4 to test out first.
I'm holding off on all units at the moment and will wait until a few rev's has gone by....maybe in the new year I'll revisit the MBP's. Hopefully they come out with a 14 inch wide aluminium. That would suit me just fine!! Probably wishful thinking.
BTW, when I was at the store, they had both the white and black MB's out. The lid of the white is glossy and the black is all matte finish. They both had the glossy screen. The screen was nice but noticed the glare.
What I liked about the MB. You can change the ram (2 slots accessible) and can change the harddrive yourself. On my 12" PB, I can change the ram but it would be tricky to change the harddrive. On the MBP, same as the 12".
The MB felt light but it did not have the battery installed. I don't know about heat but my PB can get warm but not annoyingly warm or hot. The MBP did get very hot.
Sorry for rambling on...I hope this helps. Cheers!
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