122 vs 161 movement type

Hi,
Which is the recommended process to follow for return to vendor....the 122 or the 161 movement type ? Does having QM installed play a role in deciding the method to be followed ?
For 122 the process would be create a return delivery via MBRL and do the PGI ? Am I right or are there any other steps ?
For 161 the process would be receieve the original PO, then on the original or new ? PO mark the return item checkbox and do a normal MIGO 101 which will behind the scenes do a 161 ? A I right ?
What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price ?
Thanks

Hi,
Movt type 122: you can use this in industry when if u want to return the material to vendor 122 MT is used this can be used when Vendor invoice is still pending if As soon as you select drill drop option from MIGO screen the option return to delivery will appear and here system automatically picks up movt type 122 there you have to enter the GR # against which you had already done Goods receipt with 101.
Movt type --> 161 is used for material returned to vendor via Return PO ,First create return PO for Returns Item, select Return Indicator in item over view & save.
For example if procured a material like Container with Qty 100 QA approves the same 100 qty
All the transaction has completed such as GR> Excise ( Part II) > MIRO> Payment run.
When you are issuing material to shop floor and in production line some material say 25 got rejected
As per material sampling can be checked randomly as per QA plan it is not possible to check entire lot and if you wants to send s the rejected material back to vendor with Applicable duties in that case it is useful to create return PO > GR (Here system automatically picks up Movt type 161) Qty reduces> J1IS Reverse Exicse duties (If applicable) > Credit Memo (Reverse the value of Qty returned) This completes cycle both in FI & MM entries will be perfect.
What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price- 122 Draws Price based on the GR & PO against which material has already inwarded and 161 draws price based on the return PO created.Hope this is clear
You can check same in below answered link.
Re: Mvt Type 161 & 122

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Difference between 122 and 161 movement type

Hi,
Can anyone explain me the difference between 122 and 161 movement type?
How will be the finance postings?
Can these movement types will be used in outbound delivery? If so,what kind of scenarios this can be used?
Thanks
Srini

Hi
Both are belongs to vendor return
1. 122 - return to vendor -total consignment - return total received gr qty
Migo - return delivery with 122- j1is - credit memo
2. 161 - here you have to crate the return po. return to vendor for partial qty.
after po- gr - j1is-credit memo
Laxman

161 movement type

Hi mates,
I want to know in which scenarios/situations 161 movement type is used ?
Thanks in advance.

hii
U have done PO , GR and invoice verification also.
Now some material u wanted to return to cendor .
SO now u have to start from Creating return PO, then return GR, and credit memo in invoice verification.
In above scenario, once u do return GR , it'll take automatically 161 movement type .
If u not done , Invoice verification ,now u wanted to retun some materil, then it'll take 122 movement type .
Thanks

WM: Return Purchase order process issue-Using 161 movement type

Hi
      i did return PO with using 161 movementype .when i do GRN, WM is appear 601 movement type and storage type is 916 .
      i think is wrongly triggered the movementype and storage type 916 .
      so where i made mistake the configuration.pls suggest me to do the configuration.
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Edited by: code acess on Jul 8, 2011 7:50 AM

You can ask SAP AG why it was designed this way - I already told you my explanation I have no better thoughts.
Just remark: WM-mvt 601 is not only related to sales process. Just check the WM/IM interface and you will see it (e.g. IM-mvt 261, IM-mvt 541 are assigned to it). I think it generally means outbound delivery process.
If the stock is not in the right place and system cannot find it based on the search strategy you use, you have to enter the data manually.
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jul 8, 2011 11:48 AM

Vendor Returns with 161 Movement type - Register Problem

Hi Every one,
I using the Returns PO for returning the Goods to the Vendor.
I am following the below process.
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
as suggested in one of the threads.
The Problem I am facing the when update the registers with J215 and download with J2I6, it is not being updated properly.
The balance Quantity Column (Column M) in the excel which is download, instead of decreasing the quantity is getting increased.
for the First PO the Qty is 1000
for the Second PO the Qty is 1010
for the third PO the Qty is 1020 even though the PO is Return PO with qty 10.
Please guide me to solve this problem.
Thanks

Hi,
Check the Register update against Movt type in config setting as under
Spro Logistics u2013 GeneralTax on Goods MovementsIndiaBusiness TransactionsIncoming Excise InvoicesSpecify Which Movement Types Involve Excise Invoicesu2014here check whether for movt type 161 is there Register update is maintained or not I hope it is not maintained which results in Register is not getting updated.
Rg

Vendor returns with 161 movement type

Hi Friends,
We have gone live recently. I have to return Excisable materials to vendor. I have created return purchase order.How to create excise invoice for this?
Regards,

hi,
Process :
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group and Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
Regards,
Priyanka.P

Vendor returns with 161 movement type : problem

Dear guru ,
I have created a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item) with ME21N.
After I try to run MIGO Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO)
The system send this message :
Document u2026 does not contain any selectable items
Can you help to solve this problem ?
Thanks.

1.
If your PO item really exists you should be able to proceed by using MIGO - GR - PO with mvt 101. SAP will recognize automatically that the PO has a return item and it will use mvt 161 for the return item.
2.
Please check whether "Shipping data" tab exists for the PO item (ME23N). If yes, you have to create delivery by VL10B and post GI in VL02N (after picking & packing - based on your settings).
Regards,
Csaba
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 18, 2009 6:48 PM

Movement Type 102, 122, 161

Hello Experts,
Please guide me regarding the use of movement type 102, 122 and 161 movement types.
What are the scenarios where the above movement types should be used and what are the reference documents to be used for all above processes.
Also if QM is active then how to use these movement types.
What are the accounting effect that went during posting with above mentioned movement types.
Regards,
Ashutosh

Hi ,
Please find the details of the movement types
I) 101 Goods receipt for purchase order or order
If the purchase order or order has not been assigned to an account, a stock type (unrestricted-use stock, stock in quality inspection, blocked stock) can be entered during goods receipt.
If the purchase order or order has been assigned to an account, the goods receipt is not posted to the warehouse, but to consumption.
In the case of non-valuated materials, the goods receipt is posted to the warehouse, although the purchase order has not been assigned to an account.
Possible special stock indicators:
o     K Goods receipt for purchase order to consignment stock
o     O Goods receipt for purchase order to stock of material provided to vendor
o     E GR for purchase order or order to
o     sales order stock
o     Q GR for purchase order or order to
o     project stock.
Goods receipt for subcontract order : at goods receipt, the consumption of the components is posted at the same time (see movement type 543)
Goods receipt for
stock transport order : at goods receipt the transported quantity is posted in the receiving plant from stock in transit into unrestricted-use stock (or stock in quality inspection, blocked stock).
The cancellation or reversal of movement type 101 is the movement type 102.
II) 122 - Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. In this way, evaluations of return deliveries are possible.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
III) 161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122
I think this may give clear idea about movement types
Thanks,
Arun G

Mvt 122 vs 161.

Hi,
why for returns delivery to vendors SAP allows two different mvt (122 or 161) ?
When is better use 122 and when 161 ?
Regards

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Goods receipt for return PO - MB01-Movement type 101-161

Hi guys!
I have one problem with output determination for goods movement (movement type 101 with internal movement type 161).
I used SAP Note 426554 and for as I know the output determination customizing is ok:
output type WE03, collective slip, access sequence 0003 , condition table: 72 Transaction/Printed Version/Print ID, Transaction/event type: WE, movement type: 101 - 161, Print indicator: 1Material document printout 2 Return delivery, Transmission time-spot of the condition record (1 to 4):1-3, print indicator (RM07M-XNAPR) is set manually and maintained as NDR parameter in user master record, Output type print parameter is Plant/storage location (7), printer determination is customized.
At header level, the document created with MB01 with reference to a return PO, doesn't have the XNAPR parameter (don't know why - it is set when using MB01). It may be this one the reason for not having any output message to print. For movement type 101 (in reference to a PO) all works fine. Just for 101-161 movement type the system doesn't create any output type.
Do you have some suggestions? What should I do..what else soul I check?
Thanks.
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Florina Cheta

Have a look at any of the following notes:-
1) Note 171989 - Sales-order-related productn: Custmr exit COPCP002
2) Note 520000 - FAQ: Valuated special stocks
3) Note 557582 - User exit and valuated sales order stock
4) Note 580228 - Incorrect prices for materials procured externally
5) Note 983193 - Docu:Externally procurd material in valtd sales order stock
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G. Lakshmipathi

Return to Vendor 122 vs 161

Hi,
When is the 122 movement type used and when is the 161 movement type used in the return to vendor process.
Thanks
GS

122 Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. This enables you to carry out evaluations for return deliveries.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q
Ex: You have ordered 20 and received 20 qty. but you have to physically return 5 qty to vendor, then you will use 122 mvmnt type.
161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q

Movement Type 161error in STO return (Plant to Plant) at the time of goods issue .

Hi all...
Am getting the following error while posting goods issue through VL02N
Update control of movement type is incorrect (entry 161 X X _ L)
Message no. M7226
Diagnosis
The system could not find entry 161 X X _ L in any of the movement type control tables.
Process : STO Return Plant to Plant.
Purchase Order ( STO) done.
Goods issue done.
Goods receipt at the receiving plant.
Amended Purchase order, added one more line item and ticked return.
Inbound delivery done.
VL02n Goods issue am getting the error.
Pls help.
Suhas
MM consultant

Update control of movement type is incorrect (entry 161 X X _ L)
Have a look into your OMJJ customizing for 161 movement type:
It probably looks like mine:
the error message has the info in exact the same sequence
161 X X _ L
this is 161, checkmark checkmark blank L in the table above.
L would mean reference to a delivery.
But as you can see here, there is no L, everything is B which means reference to purchase order.
It is not allowed to add items in a delivery without purchase order reference, it is technically possible, but it finally ends in the error you have.
The process has to start from the purchase order.

Return PO movement type

Dear MM Guru,
Currently i doing some Vendor Claim related with PP/QM/MM.
I need help from you expert related with the Movement type 161 - Return PO to supplier.
I would like to know is this movement 161 standard movement type in SAP?
Can i directly return my goods to supplier from Blocked stock ?
Is there any standard SAP Practise for this scenario.
TQ

Hi,
No material directly return to supplier from Blocked stock.The material can be transfered or withdrawn from unrestricted-use stock ONLY.
161 Mvt type is used for Stock material returned to vendor via Return PO .First create return PO for Returns Item & create PO(ME21N), Enter Co.code, Pur. Group, Purchase Organisation , material number, quantity, plant & select Return Indicator & save.
Now carry the transaction for return in t.code MIGO or MB01 with 161 movement type.
NOTE:
For example if we procure a material like Rotor 100 quantity and we are procuring this material Rotor very rarely and we used 90 quantity in our icompany and 10 quantity are in stock. If no use of this Rotor ,further (if you feel) and if you want to dispose them u have two options .
1.One is to sell it.
2. The other is to return to vendor if you have good terms with vendor,so at that time you can use 161.
Regards,
Biju K

Returns Delivery Movement type

Hello all,
The scenario is intercompany returns. The stock should be moved in 2 steps from block to block. I am trying to use a different movement type in the returns delivery NCR instead of the std 161 mov type.
1. can you suggest a mov type that could move the stock from blocked ( supply plant) to block ( returning plant) ? Closest I could get was 915, but could not prototype.
2. How is the movement type determined from in returns delivery for a purchase order ( return STO) ?
Thanks .

Hi
Are you trying to do stock transfer or return delivery?
If both the plants belongs to your client use trasnfer posting facility for this.and look for mvt types 459 and 460.
Or if this is not what you want, please explain your query properly?
regrds
Yogesh

Returns Process - movement type 161 and 122

When I do returns process with help of movement type 122 then it picks stock from "blocked stock". But when I do it from movement type 161, it does not pick it from blocked stock. I have checked transaction OMJJ and found no major difference in settings.
I want to pick the stock from blocked stock from returns process. Please let me know the setting?

hi
Steps are as follows
1. Create return purchase order
The return purchase order is exactly the same as standard purchase order except the return flag. Go to transaction ME21N and enter orgnization info, material, vendor and tick the return flag.
2. Review requirements
Reviewing stock requirements will help determine timing/urgency for allowing normal process to replenish returned items or whether a PO must be created immediately. Go to transaction MD04, the new created return PO is listed as an MRP element.
3. Create delivery document for Return PO
This step is executed by warehouse clerk and generate delivery note, transfer order for return PO. Go to transaction VL10B and choose create delivery in background. The delivery doc will be created automatically.
4. Picking Confirmation
If the storage location is managed by warehouse, an open transfer order is also created. You need to confirm transfer order before posting good issue. There are two methods to confirm transfer order. Go to transaction LT21 and choose Transfer Order -> Confirm -> Transfer Order. The other method is VL06. On the Delivery Monitor screen, select For Confirmation button. Choose confirm in the background.
5. Post Goods Issue
Go to transaction VL02N, enter delivery number and press Enter key. On the next screen, choose Post Goods Issue button. After the good issue has been posted, the quantity of stock has been decreased. The return MRP element in step 2 is also removed in MD04.
6. Manual Review of Pending Credits
Go transaction ME2L, enter plant, purchasing organization and choose RECHNUNG for Selection parameters. A list of open invoices including a list of items where the invoiced quantity is less than zero (Credit return) is reviewed.
7. Create Credit Memo
Create a credit memo to vendor which relieves the liability to the vendor. Go to transaction MIRO and enter necessary information to create a credit memo. You can choose simualte button to check whether the error messages exist in the credit memo.
regards
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