13" or 15" is the quad core i7 and additional graphics worth the added money
I am looking to replace my 2009 13.3 macbook pro that I've upgraded with a new retina model. Regardless of which model I get it will have the 1 TB storage and 16GB Ram so really my only debate if I want to pay for the additional screen size, secondary graphics processor, and quad core cpu. I use the system for personal use, web browsing, email, itunes, and I play world of warcraft. However I also use this system for business and run parallels with a widows 7 installation running autocad (2D only), ePlan, excel, Rockwell Automation RSLogix suite and RSNetworx, as well as Siemans WinCC HMI software that utilizes a SQL Database. It is not uncommon for me to have all of the windows side apps running at once with multiple windows of each open.
I know the quad processor and the additional graphics card are better than what is available on the 13" retina but I'm not sure if I will see the difference with my usage. Should I go all the way and get the 15" with the i7 2.6GHz Quad core or settle for the 13" with the i7 2.8GHz Dual core?
Hi eric,
In addition to the factors you mention (and yes, I think the dedicated GPU is significant), here are the GeekBench (the standard for measuring computer speed) scores for your two machines:
13" 7899
15" 13287
Thats a pretty big jump in performance, and yes you will notice it with most of the apps you mention, some more than others.
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https://support.apple.com/kb/TS1367
Where are your bootable backups and clones stored?
What do you have to boot from to restore or attempt to recovery files that are not backed up?
It won't be a PowerMac. People tend to think they look alike? or mean the same thing.
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-2.66-specs.html
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i have a quad core CPU and Radeon HD 6850 Graphics and 8GB of RAM .. and i can't rent HD 1080p Videos ! why ?
Welcome to the Apple Community.
Probably because your set up doesn't support HDCP. -
I have a Power Mac G5 quad core (2006) and it does not work.
I have a Power Mac G5 Quad core (2006) and it does not work.The status light flashes twice and the fans blow full blast. The display does not show anything. Does anybody know what is wrong with my mac.
Can you count the beeps or flashes?
1 beep = no RAM installed
2 beeps = incompatible RAM types
3 beeps = no good banks
4 beeps = no good boot images in the boot ROM (and/or bad sys config block)
5 beeps = processor is not usable
In addition to the beeps, on some computers the power LED will flash a corresponding number of times plus one. The LED will repeat the sequence after approximately a 5-second pause. The tones are only played once.
Note: In this case, a flash is considered to be 1/4 second or 250 ms or greater in length.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547
Might be time to replace the PRAM Battery, 4 years is close to their lifespan, far less if ever without AC power, & can cause strange startup problems...
See which one your G5 has, should be the 1st one ..
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/CR2032/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/BAA36VPRAM/
If you're sure the RAM is good, try the Hair Dryer trick...
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=13240047#13240047
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15223603#15223603
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15499912#15499912
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15613068#15613068
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3270112
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16053892#16053892
No power light at all...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3692775?tstart=0
It can show on any G5, and even many other computers & electronic devices of the period.
http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/pmg5.html
http://lowendmac.com/ppc/power-macintosh-g5.html
And see this last one in particular...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16781690#16781690
Heat gun better...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3916312?tstart=0 -
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Your assumption is correct. The server does however only
have the Intel HD3000 graphics like the base model with
no option, at this time, for the discrete graphics chip. So,
depending on what you are using it for, that could be a deal
breaker. Remember that your MBP does have a discrete
graphics chip.
I have a 2011 Mini Server connected to a Thunderbolt display
that gets used as an engineering workstation and general
personal use (some photo editing, LP restoraton, general
internet browsing). You simply just not enable any of the
server services. I find the combination to work quite well
for my purposes. I also have a 13" 2.7 GHz i7 Macbook Pro
which is pretty much strictly for work. As far as CPU
power it is pretty much equivelent to your Mini. For the most
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Parallels and Windows7 virtual machines, so the more cores
the better.
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the Server may help. If it is graphics intensive and your software
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Vista 64 Bit.
AMD Phenom 9600 2.3Ghz quad core. Liquid cooled
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6Gb of Ram
8800 GT 512mb Dual Monitor Setup
600 watt power supply
1x 150gb raptor drive 10,000rpm.
1x 300gb Raptor Drive 10,000 rpm.This might help you find the proper bios a bit easier. http://www.dvhardware.net/article31234.html
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You may ask why I want to do that.
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I have SRE 900 k9 and cisco Router 2911. I am trying to configure but i am fail.
My all Router information and Router Configuration.
Hello,
R1#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 2196 bytes
! Last configuration change at 04:29:49 UTC Sun Apr 6 2014
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
hostname R1
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
! card type command needed for slot/vwic-slot 0/0
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
voice-card 0
license udi pid CISCO2911/K9 sn FGL174111LW
hw-module pvdm 0/0
hw-module sm 1
redundancy
ip ftp source-interface GigabitEthernet0/0.10
ip ftp username anonymous
ip ftp password config
interface Embedded-Service-Engine0/0
no ip address
shutdown
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.5
encapsulation dot1Q 5
ip address 10.1.5.1 255.255.255.0
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.10
encapsulation dot1Q 10
ip address 10.1.10.254 255.255.255.0
ip helper-address 10.1.5.2
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
no ip address
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
no ip address
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
interface SM1/0
ip address 10.1.20.1 255.255.255.0
service-module fail-open
service-module ip address 10.1.20.2 255.255.255.0
service-module ip default-gateway 10.1.20.1
interface SM1/1
description Internal switch interface connected to Service Module
no ip address
interface Vlan1
no ip address
router ospf 1
network 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 area 0
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
ip route 10.1.1.253 255.255.255.255 SM1/0
ip route 10.1.20.2 255.255.255.255 SM1/0
control-plane
mgcp profile default
gatekeeper
shutdown
line con 0
line aux 0
line 2
no activation-character
no exec
transport preferred none
transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh
stopbits 1
line 67
no activation-character
no exec
transport preferred none
transport input all
transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
transport input all
scheduler allocate 20000 1000
end
R1#sh version
Cisco IOS Software, C2900 Software (C2900-UNIVERSALK9-M), Version 15.2(4)M4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2013 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 20-Jun-13 13:06 by prod_rel_team
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 15.0(1r)M16, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
R1 uptime is 1 hour, 4 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is "flash0:c2900-universalk9-mz.SPA.152-4.M4.bin"
Last reload type: Normal Reload
Last reload reason: power-on
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United
States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and
use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply
third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption.
Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for
compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you
agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable
to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at:
http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to
[email protected].
Cisco CISCO2911/K9 (revision 1.0) with 475136K/49152K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID FGL174111LW
4 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
2 terminal lines
1 Channelized (E1 or T1)/PRI port
1 Virtual Private Network (VPN) Module
1 Services Module (SM) with Services Ready Engine (SRE)
DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity enabled.
255K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
250880K bytes of ATA System CompactFlash 0 (Read/Write)
License Info:
License UDI:
Device# PID SN
*0 CISCO2911/K9 FGL174111LW
Technology Package License Information for Module:'c2900'
Technology Technology-package Technology-package
Current Type Next reboot
ipbase ipbasek9 Permanent ipbasek9
security securityk9 Permanent securityk9
uc uck9 Permanent uck9
data None None None
Configuration register is 0x2102
R1# sh inventory
NAME: "CISCO2911/K9", DESCR: "CISCO2911/K9 chassis, Hw Serial#: FGL174111LW, Hw Revision: 1.0"
PID: CISCO2911/K9 , VID: V07 , SN: FGL174111LW
NAME: "VWIC3-1MFT-T1/E1 - 1-Port RJ-48 Multiflex Trunk - T1/E1 on Slot 0 SubSlot 0", DESCR: "VWIC3-1MFT-T1/E1 - 1-Port RJ-48 Multiflex Trunk - T1/E1"
PID: VWIC3-1MFT-T1/E1 , VID: V01 , SN: FOC16345L87
NAME: "PVDM3 DSP DIMM with 16 Channels on Slot 0 SubSlot 4", DESCR: "PVDM3 DSP DIMM with 16 Channels"
PID: PVDM3-16 , VID: V01 , SN: FOC173367QG
NAME: "Services Module with Services Ready Engine on Slot 1", DESCR: "Services Module with Services Ready Engine"
PID: SM-SRE-900-K9 , VID: V03 , SN: FOC15073WX2
NAME: "C2911 AC Power Supply", DESCR: "C2911 AC Power Supply"
PID: PWR-2911-AC , VID: V05 , SN: DCA1730R1A7
Router Configuration......................
R1#sh
*Apr 7 05:24:37.163: %SM_INSTALL-6-INST_RBIP: SM1/0 received msg: RBIP Registration Requestrun
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1977 bytes
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
hostname R1
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
! card type command needed for slot/vwic-slot 0/0
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ip domain lookup
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
voice-card 0
license udi pid CISCO2911/K9 sn FGL174111LW
hw-module pvdm 0/0
hw-module sm 1
redundancy
interface Loopback0
ip address 10.1.6.1 255.255.255.0
interface Embedded-Service-Engine0/0
no ip address
shutdown
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.5
encapsulation dot1Q 5
ip address 10.1.5.1 255.255.255.0
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.10
encapsulation dot1Q 10
ip address 10.1.10.254 255.255.255.0
ip helper-address 10.1.5.2
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
no ip address
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
interface SM1/0
ip unnumbered Loopback0
service-module fail-open
service-module ip address 10.1.6.2 255.255.255.0
service-module ip default-gateway 10.1.6.1
interface SM1/1
description Internal switch interface connected to Service Module
no ip address
interface Vlan1
no ip address
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
ip route 10.1.6.2 255.255.255.255 SM1/0
control-plane
mgcp profile default
gatekeeper
shutdown
line con 0
line aux 0
line 2
no activation-character
no exec
transport preferred none
transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh
stopbits 1
line 67
no activation-character
no exec
transport preferred none
transport input all
transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
transport input all
scheduler allocate 20000 1000
end
Please check my configuration....
R1#service-module sm 1/0 session
Trying 10.1.6.1, 2067 ... Open
Detect and Initialize network device
Backup current platform configurations....
SRE step 1 - SM registration...
Finding (hd1,3)/296e03bc-3236-4a68-a178-688e56400a1e, failed
Local install not supported
Response - no installation needed (len: 422)
SRE Installation Not Needed
Restoring original configuration...
Updating flash with bootloader configuration.
Please wait .................... done.
*Apr 7 05:26:08.143: %SM_INSTALL-6-INST_RBIP: SM1/0 received msg: RBIP Registration RequestLoading disk:/bzImage ... done.
Unable to load image
Error: Selected disk does not exist (21)
þnable to boot image
Initializing memory #1. Please wait...
Initializing memory #2. Please wait...
This may take a minute....
Serial ATA Port 0 : Hitachi HTE545050B9A300
Serial ATA Port 1 : Hitachi HTE545050B9A300
DDR Memory 4096 MB detected
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9400 @ 1.86GHz
BIOS SM 3.52.8, BIOS Build date: 02/08/2011
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9400 @ 1.86GHz
BIOS SM 3.52.8, BIOS Build date: 02/08/2011
System now booting...
Please wait...
Please press P to select Primary Boot Loader ...
or S to select Secondary Boot Loader ...
or wait to boot from default configuration ...
SRE module get located and run....
Now booting from secondary boot loader....
Authenticating boot loader....
Secondary Boot Loader authenticated - booting....
Please enter '***' to change boot configuration:
ServicesEngine Bootloader Version : 2.1.37
ServicesEngine boot-loader>
ServicesEngine boot-loader> config
IP Address [10.1.6.2] >
Subnet mask [255.255.255.0] >
TFTP server [10.1.20.10] >
Gateway [10.1.20.10] >
Default Helper-file [sre-v-installer.SPA.smv.2.0.1] >
Ethernet interface[external|internal] [internal] >
Default Boot [none|disk|diag|chainloader] [disk] >
Default bootloader [primary|secondary] [secondary] >
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Incompatibility MacPro Quad-Core 2010 and AirPort Extreme for DHCP
Hello,
I have a MacPro 2.8 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xenon 2010 EFI 1.5, for my internet, I use an AirPort Extreme Base Station version 7.4.2.
When I try to access the internet settings of the AirPort Extreme in the DHCP, the first DHCP address does not select anything in the dropdown menu.
Here is a picture screen:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4995/airportdhcp.jpg
I tried with a second MacPro Quad-core 2.8 Ghz and the error persists. By cons, with a MacBook Pro 3,1 or IMac 4.1, normally I go to the menu in question.
For it is impossible to modify the airport extreme settings with an error message that afirm the first IP address is invalid.
Unable to select because the menu is empty.
I really think a bug MacPro?
Someone does have this problem?
Thank you for your help.
Roberto
Not speaking much English text translated automatically by Google.roberto1971 wrote:
When I try to access the internet settings of the AirPort Extreme in the DHCP, the first DHCP address does not select anything in the dropdown menu.
It is possible that the new version of AirPort Utility may help:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL955
"Resolves an issue that caused the DHCP settings tab to display incorrectly" -
Mac Pro Quad core power and cooling concerns
My current MDD 867 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I am looking at getting a quad mac pro this fall. Waiting till MacWorld is a verrrrry long wait option. Did I mention that the MDD cooked off one of my drives recently?
What I plan on building is the following :
Mac Pro Quad 3 GHz
4 Gb ram
Ati X1900 (extra cooling fan?)
250 GB boot drive
500 GB Barracuda mirror raid
16X SuperDrive
Knowing the power and cooling issues that the MDD has intimately, this new machine configuration gives me pause. Can anyone attest to the power and cooling capabilities of the Mac Pro? Will the above configuration be ok? How about possible fan speed noise? The MDD, with new power supply is a noise beast!
TIA
PoirotThanks for the reply.
To be a a little more clear, when I referred to quad, I meant 2x dual-core processors.
The raid was for storage of my images. I have an external firewire drive for backups of the system drive, and other important files. Photography is my hobby, and need to build a new workstation to store and edit the images.
The UPS was a good idea. That was in the back of my mind. I could try and bring an APC SU2200XL from work
I was hoping that Apple would announce the new Mac Pro this fall. I know that the raw processor speed difference is not that much, but the FSB speed difference could make a nice improvement. I just didn't want to get one now, and then 10 days later, there is a new one. I would be really mad at myself. I was looking at the refurb models. The price difference between the 4 and 8 core models is $100, when available. The downside is that the 8-core model does not come with the Ati card.
The allure of Leopard is not that strong to me. We are running the beta at work, and while nice, it is still too buggy.
The main intent of the thread was to make sure that the specs'd out model would not generate too much heat, and suck up too much power from the power supply. I know that the MDD compared tot he Mac Pro is night and day, but a little reassurance is always helpful.
Thanks
Mack -
Just bought a 2011 imac 27" to upgrade from my MacBookPro 17" to run Logic 8, but when I try to install Logic 8 on the new Mac I disappointingly get a message to say that the application is not supported on power mac, that cannot be right, or can it. If so what do I need to do to get it to install?
Logic 8 has a "bug" in its installer program that makes a newer Mac (Lion, and thereafter) think that it is PowerPC, but it is not PowerPC.
Try using Pacifist to install Logic 8 in Mavericks:
http://www.charlessoft.com/
If you cannot get Pacifist to work, you can partition your hard drive and install Snow Leopard into that new partition, install Logic 8 and then upgrade to Mavericks.
As Barney correctly points out, the 2011 iMacs require a minimum of 10.6.6 to boot, so that you need to install Snow Leopard with one of these three options:
1) As Barney points out, the original grey Restore DVD that came with that iMac (or a replacement provided by Apple if you call with your model and serial number);
2) The slipstreamed version of the Mac OS X Snow Leopard Install DVD at 10.6.7; or
3) Install Snow Leopard on a new partition on another older Mac, update it to 10.6.8 and then clone the partition and move the cloned partition over to your 2011 iMac. -
Give it to me straight -- Can the new Quad Core iMac run Maya well?
Hey all, I've been hunting around the interwebs for reviews of the new 27 inch quad core machine and I'm having a heck of a time tracking down specifics regarding iMacs and their ability to run Maya, After Effects, other adobe programs, etc.
I'm a student right now, going on four years. I own a small graphic design/animation business and I'm afraid my poor little Macbook Pro is going to keel over on me any day now. I've noticed a drop in performance in the last six months, especially with Maya and After Effects. So I've been evaluating options, and I know it has to run OSX. Windows has only given me headaches in regards to Maya work. In short, it's gonna be a Mac.
I've priced out a Mac Pro, and I'd rather not spend 3 grand on a machine that doesn't have a monitor, and may have properties that I'm paying for that I don't necessarily need: monstrous expandability, server capabilities, a big-stinking CPU footprint. But the mantra I always hear is "Only pro models can run Maya". So I reluctantly began putting away money for a new Mac Pro, uncertain if I'd be able to afford the software to go with it. Then I read this article:
http://gizmodo.com/5411073/why-its-gotten-straight-stupid-to-buy-a-mac-pro
In my mind, this article couldn't be more perfect for my position. It's telling me, "These high end iMacs are almost as powerful as the Mac Pro you can't afford. You can save a thousand bucks off the base computer. It comes with a monitor that you don't have to pay for. " But unfortunately the one question I need answered, that I'm having a heckuva time tracking down is "Can the stinking thing run Maya or can't it?" And if it can, will it be crippled?
So, please, anyone out there, can the new monster iMac run Maya, and if it can, does it suck at it?No, there's no way to talk to Apple technical support via email, and they probably could not or would not be able to answer any questions about performance with third-party products. I doubt that more than a handful of Apple employees, sales rep or tech, would have access to any benchmark data on Maya with any model of Mac, and those Apple people would probably be those working with the Pro VAR channel or directly with large production companies.
I just got off the phone with an Apple sales associate who emphatically confirmed that the i7 iMac can run "all that Adobe stuff", but she'd never heard of Maya.... fun....
Not terribly surprising; Maya is pretty specialized and the Apple Store phone reps are generalists working mostly with consumers. Most people running Maya would be working with an Apple VAR or would otherwise have access to specialists. You might try talking to an Apple Pro Video/Film VAR - there are a number around the country though none in Salt Lake, apparently - or asking in the Autodesk forums:
http://area.autodesk.com/forum/autodesk-maya/
If you search for "iMac", you'll find some comments, though none I can find yet regarding performance with the new iMac models. But if you post asking if anyone has experience with Maya on the i7, you might get useful responses.
Regards.
P.S.
And on top of that I can't buy a 27 inch display separately
Well, you can, and they're not terribly expensive; under $400.00. But that might be more than your budget could accept, which may be what you meant. I'd elect a smaller primary monitor and go with two displays in any case, even with an iMac. I find it much better for workflow to have a monitor for the primary canvas and a separate one for tool palettes, etc.
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Dual-core or Quad-core for Premiere, After Effects, and Photoshop CS4?
We are planning to purchase around 25 computers for a computer lab for working with CS4 Production Premium at the high school level. Mainly Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop. Our budget is, unfortunately, a mere $550-$625 per machine (just the tower though, we have monitors). I've already established that a 64-bit operating system makes a significant difference in the performance, even though Photoshop is the only 64-bit application, and I'm now hung up on whether or not it's worth the cost of a quad-core processor over a dual-core.
I'm discovering the different hardware needs for each application, so I'm trying to find an economic balance that will give me the best performance per buck. It seems that Premiere benefits significantly from more cores (we're editing 1440x1080 AVCHD), and this article over at Tom's Hardware has convinced me that I don't want to compromise with a hyperthreaded dual-core for After Effects.
I'm also struggling with what part the graphics card plays in the mix. Which applications lean on the graphics card, and will it make much difference as long as I meet the requirements (OpenGL 2.0, Shader Model 3.0, Direct3D 10, and 256 Mb Ram)?
I understand I will need to settle for less-than-awesome with my budget, but I'm already making sacrifices to get the number to $625. I would like to make sure that those sacrifices will be worth it for a quad-core system.I think I may have answered my own question by looking at these charts over at Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS4 ,1404.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Photoshop-CS-4,1 387.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-After-Effec ts-CS5,2427.html
I think that the jump to the quad core in Premiere Pro is worth it, even if I don't see as large of an improvement in Photoshop or After Effects. I am still interested in the role of the graphics card in the mix if anyone can shed some light on that. Will an integrated graphics card (like an Intel GMA x4500 or Radeon HD4200) suffice or will I need an actual graphics card to realize the benefits?
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