1440 x 1080 in & 1920 x 1080 out

I'm correcting footage shot with a Canon HV20, captured with Apple's ProRes 422, 24p Workflow, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410. This leaves me with 1440x1080, non-square pixeled, ProRes 422 footage. Since the only logical, available option in Color is for me to choose a 1920 x 1080 aspect, does it make sense for me to modify Apple's suggested workflow to output my footage from Compressor as square pixeled, 1920 x 1080 footage or am I asking for trouble? Am I missing something? I'd think the modification to that workflow would allow me to keep sequence settings the same across all of Apple's apps.

I've never tried it, but I don't see what it would hurt. I've captured HDV into ProRes via FW and having it be 1440x1080 instead of full raster is rather inconvenient.
-Andrew

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Look at this very interesting link about H.264 CODEC and web compression:
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I import in some effects into Final Cut Express 4 from the .ipr fiIes created in LiveType.
In LiveType under the Preference, I clearly select Apple 1080i50 ... but when I goto FCE4 & import in the LiveType .ipr file, the properties showed it as 1440 x 1080. Isn't Apple 1080i50 is 1920 x 1080 ?
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As long as it looks and works OK I wouldn't worry about it.

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I am still on the learning curve for Premiere Pro having held out on FCP 7 for as long as possible.
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Andrew
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3. Just in case note....when you are looking at your 1440 x 1080 HD anamorphic 16:9 Timeline content in the Edit area monitor, the space there is one for the stretched version 1920 x 1080 16:9, not 1440 x 1080. The Edit area monitor is a player controlled by the project in contrast to the YouTube player and video conversion which is controlled by YouTube.
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Hi there,
I import in some effects I created in LiveType.
In LiveType under the Preference, I clearly select Apple 1080i50 ... but when I goto FCE4 & import in the LiveType .ipr file, the properties showed it as 1440 x 1080.
Does that mean the rest of my sequence & clips in Timeline (which was recorded in 1920 x 1080) will be downgraded to 1440 x 1080 when I render the whole sequence ?
Another thing, that is puzzling me, when I open up the same LiveType project file & see the project properties, it has changed to HDV 1440 x 1080 despite me changing & saving earlier to Apple 1080i50
Any ideas ?
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Tom Wolsky wrote:
What are the exact item properties of your FCE sequence?
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Okay thanks Tom, now I understand.
I used to think that Apple 1080i50 is 1920 x 1080.
Btw, my sequence in FCE is 1920 x 1080. So, if I understand you correctly, in LiveType, I should use HDTV 1080i 16:9
However, if my sequence is 1440 x 1080, in LiveType, I should use HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i50
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1. Not without rendering.
2. ProRes LT. The bit rate doesn't matter. ProRes sets it. The size and frame rate should be the same as the original.
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