15" retina display on a 15" non-retina late 2011 MBP?

Hello,
I am curious if i can mount a 15 inch retina display on my 15 inch non retina mac book pro, early 2011.
There are a lot of build differences but except the connectors i believe it could be done.
In Romania mac books cost a small fortune (7 - 8 months pay) and it would be very hard to replace my laptop just for the screen.
Please help me out with rational and direct answers.
Thank you very much for your time!

Not possible even with a newer non retina MBP.
Ciao.
If you desire higher resolution, attach a high resolution monitor.
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