16 bit linear footage bleached out after render

hey there,
i got a linear 16-bit multipass-layered psd sequence which i imported to after effects.
the ae-project is set to 16 bpc working space "sRGB" and "linearize workflow" on.
it looks great in after effects. i even got rid of extreme banding in ram preview (pref/previews/col-man to "more accurate").
but when i render my tweaked comp to quicktime, it appears extremely washed out:
i tried animation codec as well as h264, both in 100% quality.
only when i checked "preserve RGB" in the color management of the output module, it was not washed out. instead it looked somehow too dark. much better then the bleached version, but still not right.
what do i do wrong?
tyvm!!
edit: sometimes only the first few frames are "washed out" and the rest is fine... o_O

Footage looks and sounds great (sync is good) in iMovie 6 ... such as trying the same footage freshly inported into Final Cut Exp just to see if that would effect the outcome...nada!
Since you posted in the iMovie '08 area, specifically mention importing to both iMovie '06 and Final Cut, and specifically state the iMovie '06 sync was "good" when imported/captured, my initial assumption would be that you problem is not one of source "sampling." Basically, if the DV content is "in sync" on the camera and "in sync" when captured by one or more editors, then it would appear that the camcorder and import modules are both working correctly as this is when you should first see any sampling problem show up.
Since you indicate the final product -- the DVD -- is out of sync, then I would look at the intermediate files next to see if they are out of sync. If so, then you have a problem in the file output phase of your work flow and if not, then the problem is likely in the conversion/muxing of content in iDVD which could be the result of a bad install, update, or settings in applications or core system. Depending on your work flow, I would try opening either the "Media Browser", "Shared iDVD", or exported file in the QT Player and see if it displays the same synchronization problem as the final DVD. If not, would normally assume the data being received by iDVD is good which, as I indicated above, would point to a problem in converting the data to MPEG-2 and "muxing" it properly with the linear PCM (AIFF) converted audio. Have you tried inspecting the VOB file info in an application like VLC or MPEG Streamclip to see if anything is obviously askew or tried burning the DVD with an alternative application like Toast?

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