16x9 project_Can Title Safe grid be 4x3

Without having to key a grid over my timeline, is it possible to adjust the 16 x 9 title safe grid to 4x3, while still working in the 16 x 9 world?
I want my titles to be safe for 4x3 viewing in case I just crop my whole 16x9 project somewhere down the road.
Thanks,
Paul

Andy's plugin does the trick. Thanks for the info. I also downloaded some of his other plugins I will certainly use at some point down the road.
Its great that Apple allows this sort of thing. AVID would have had a coronary if this stuff was going on.

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4:3 title safe protect grid in HD project

I have been searching and flipping on tabs looking for an option for title safe settings.
I'm working on an HD project and want the title safe grid to come up as a 4:3 safe protect zone.
can i change the title safe settings in an HD project to do this?

http://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/dh_widesafe

Is there a way to display 4x3 title safe on a 16x9 project?

I can display 16x9 title safe overlays in FCP X, but I can't find the really handy 4x3 title safe overlays that exist in FCP 7. A lot of broadcasters are still center-cutting HD video, so everything we produce has to be center-cut friendly. Any idea how to make this work without just making my own tiff file to put over the video?

http://www.fcp.co/forum/6-motion-5/596-a-little-help#602
Put it in your "Movies/Motion Templates/Titles" folder. You can find it in FCPX under titles.
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4x3 Title safe

I'm sure this has been discussed before but is there any way to show 4x3 title safe in a 16x9 sequence in PP CS6?
As annoying as it is, this is a must for broadcast commercials going through the FreeTV CAD system... at the moment.

Thanks Ann,
The first option was simple enough, took a screenshot of the aftereffects title safes, imported it into premier and after a few guesses the 4x3 title safe works out to be 40% horizontal.

4:3 title safe on 1920x1080

Hi all
How do I call up a 4x3 grid so I can do titles within 4x3 title safe, on a 1920x1080 timeline ?
thank in advance
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Cheers James.
rottendotapple, if you are using FCP 7x then you will see tick marks in the 16:9 guides ... those tick marks are there to indicate the 4:3 title and action safe marks, so if you just need a simple indicator then that'll probably suffice. If you need something more then you can try my Safe Guides generator, or have a look about for some others, like DH_WideSafe from Digital Heaven or maybe just create an overlay guide in Photoshop (or download something to the same effect). Lots out there.
Best
Andy

Anamporphic & title safe

We've just started working with projects in anamorphic (DV, not HD). My question is should we still use a 4x3 title safe area or can we trust FCP & Motions 16x9 Title safe areas? The reason I ask is I never see any titles on ESPN or other 16x9 TV stations have titles outside the 4x3 title safe area. We have alot of long names for Lower Thirds and I'd like to be able to utilize the entire width of the screen.

Some 16:9 programs are setup to simply crop the left and right to make a 4:3 program. But in most cases, 16:9 programming is displayed letterboxed on a 4:3 screen. What is the end use of your program? If it's for broadcast or cablecast, the enduser will have specifications for you. If it's for DVD, a properly authored 16:9 dvdvideo will display either fullscreen 16:9 or letterboxed if it's correctly configured (if that's what you want to do).

Can you edit "title safe overlay"

just wondering if there is an easy way of customizing the title safe overlay
ian

Alternatively you can use a reference frame. I've got a black frame with a thin white line where safe title is, I put it on a top layer and set the comp mode to Add. I mostly work in 4x3 safe in 16x9 and this is the easiest way of checking.
There is a very good Photoshop file that BBC engineering made which has all the cages you could want:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
Cheers
Steve

16:9 Safe Grid setting

Does anyone know where the title and action safe grid lines should be when making a Photoshop doc at 853x480 (16:9)? IE, is there an overlay file somewhere I can download, or what would I set the P'shop guides to, etc.?
Thanks!

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Crop marks for Center Cut in Title Safe?

I have recently picked up Premiere Pro 5.5 after the whole Final Cut Pro X fiasco, and a feature I loved and used all the time in Final Cut Pro 7 which was missing in Final Cut Pro X was crop marks for Center Cut in the title safe. I often have to do HD Projects that are broadcast on 4:3 TV center cut, so you need to make all the graphics for the center cut for SD, and then leave safe space for the HD version.
From what I can see I don't see these marks in Premiere Pro 5.5. Is there a place for feature requests for Premiere Pro, so I can put in a request as this is something that is really necessary in our production workflow.

Well, PrPro's Titler has the Center Align for both Vertical & Horizontal, but for guides, etc., it is lacking.
I use the tips in this ARTICLE to create alignment guides, as per my needs.
I have been filing Feature Requests for years, and have also asked for many of the element Alignment functions from PS.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS - I also create custom guides/grids for PiP, where I need to match the Scale & Position for the PiP footage.
PPS - I assume that you have looked at Title & Action Safe marks, and they just do not do it for what you need.

Action/Title Safe Areas

I am having problems setting up guides for safe areas and I wondered if
anyone else had some advice or tips.
In the Preferences under Grids & Guides the Action Safe and Title Safe are
preset to 10% and 20% respectively. But this relates to the size of the
comp, I am working in HD so my comp is 1920 x 1080 and the Title/Action safe
guides are set proportional to that. However in reality I have to set my
Title Safe area to be Title Safe for 4:3 within a 16:9 HD comp for
international sales to countries still using 4:3 TV.
If I change the value for the Title Safe area in the Preferences to say 30%
to show a guide closer to the 4:3 safe area I need to adhere to it changes
BOTH the width and the height so the width might be accurate but the height
is way out. On top of that I also have to work with 14:9 Title Safe areas
for some projects too so I'd like to see those.
I can drag guidelines to sit over the correct areas but this a pain as the
guides are just for each individual comp not all the nested comps I work
with when making the animation so I have to make them anew for every comp
and project to make sure text is safe, I can't just click on the Action/Safe
when I want to see it.
I downloaded a Photoshop comp from the BBC in the UK and have been importing
that as an overlay to check my Title safe but I really wanted to know if I
am missing something. Avid Media Composer for example shows guides for
widescreen comps 14:9 Action Safe, 14:9 Title Safe, 4:3 Action Safe and 4:3
Title Safe, is there nothing I can do in After Effects to have the guides
permanently set to multiple safe areas or even just the correct height and
width for 4:3 safe within a 16:9 comp?
Thanks in advance.
BBC links if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/artwork1.shtml

Many thanks for those links silversurfer. When I compare them to the ones I
got from the BBC they don't match up though; your Action Safe is their 3:4
picture area and your Title Safe is wider than their Action Safe. This is
the other issue I have run into, that different broadcasters have different
specifications.
The guides the BBC give as safe margins for 4:3 Title Safe within a 16:9
widescreen frame are 10% top and bottom and 20.5% left and right. Doing the
math for an HD 16:9 frame makes a box 1132 pixels wide by 864 high with the
margins set at 394px left, 1526px right, 108px bottom and 972px top. (Their
4:3 Action Safe is 5% top and bottom and 17% left and right.)
It would be great in CS4 to be able to set templates that can quickly be
called up across comps and projects, the single percentage option they have
right now for both width and height is pretty useless. I have been importing
a Photoshop template but it's an inelegant kludge.
I was hoping I was being dumb and had missed a vital feature, but it seems
not! :-(

16:9 Title Safe Overlays Suddenly Become 4:3 In 16:9 Sequence?

This question is on behalf of a friend.
He has shot 16:9 with his Canon XM2 and put the clips in an Anamorphic DV project.
It contains 2 sequences which both had 16:9 Title Safe overlays displaying in the Canvas.
Suddenly the overlays in one sequence have become 4:3 even though the Canvas window is still 16:9.
He thinks it happened after he selected View>Show Overlays but can't be sure.
How does he get the errant overlay to display once more as 16:9?

I received a phone call to say that the problem was solved though I couldn't really understand the reason. I was told that he had accidentally switched out of anamorphic.
However, if this were so, surely he would have had an obviously squashed 4:3 image with 4:3 Title Safe area.
Anyway, enough grey calls have been expended, so we can all forget it!

4.3 title safe in 16.9 frame

Hi everyone. I have just started producing TV commercials in FCP Studio and using the latest JVC HD camera. I am shooting and editing 16.9 but got caught today with the title just out of the 4.3 zone. As 80% of viewers in Australia dont have 16.9 sets this is important. How can i create a 4.3 title safe zone to put on top of my 16.9 canvas window as a guide.

Here is a free one...http://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/fcplugins/dh_widesafe.php
tim
just double-checked...it's NOT free
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Using 4:3 title safe while in widescreen project.

I work for a news network and often times, we'll mix standard definition video with HD content. Is there a way to get the title safe to 4:3 while in the widescreen HD project? Whenever I choose title safe, it comes up as widescreen and I can't change it anywhere. If this isn't available in the current version of FCP, can it be made one please!?

Unfortunatly, FCP can't show a 4:3 title/action safe on a 16:9 frame.
The only work-around is to make one yourself in photoshop and plonk it over your clips when needed... not ideal, but does the job.

Title Safe for video..

So I just looked at a sample of my project on a TV and its cut off. What I'm doing now is exporting, re importing to FCE, turning on title safe, and scaling the entire video down to that first border (in between the 2 lines). Will that solve the problem or will it give me a black line around the video on a TV?
To illustrate what I'm talking about: If this is a segment of title safe (the tv safe and title safe lines)
| v | + | v | The v is where I'm scaling my video boarder to.

The approach is correct, but the amount of scaling is very dependent on the TV. If you scale it to the second internal blue rectangle in the canvas (title safe) for sure you'll also have a black border around your video. In my experience it is sufficient to think of a rectangle slightly larger than the larger rectangle. But as I said it depends on the TV.
In my opinion the best approach is to avoid titles to exceed the title safe area, and important action to be close to the borders.
If you can connect your Mac to your TV using firewire (and a A/D converter - your camcorder might be used for that), you may monitor the effect of scaling directly on the TV during editing.
Piero

TV and title safe .... exporting???

Hi
I'm exporting a clip to post to my blog and I've moved a few shots up and they are all in safe title and TV safe BUT when they export you can see what's underneath the clip????? That should not be happening?
Please help?
Thanks

To mirror what Jim said, because you don't seem to understand...
What you see on your monitor is EXACTLY what you will see if you export a QT movie to play on your computer. You see EVERYTHING. TVs tend to cut off some of this picture, due to the molding that holds the TV screen in place...plastic or metal covers a little of the front of the tube, thus blocking some of the image. Some TV screens were covered more than others...so TV safe takes into account the WORSE it could be. That any action inside that box is guaranteed to be seen. Title safe goes in a bit further so that the titles aren't on the edge of the screen.
Again, if you export for the web, this is moot...you get the entire image.
Shane

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