1st gen 8800GT EOL

Okay, asking about the availability of the 8800GT for us 1st gen Mac Pro owners? EOL.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB560Z/A
And for some reason someone felt fit to remove the thread.

I was looking a loooooong time for my nVidia 8800GT. It was virtually impossible to buy this card in any retail store or any suggested retailer website. It was chronically sold out or just plain not available.
Let's face it the nVidia 8800GT is pretty much the only high end card, for the 1st gen Mac Pro, with raving reviews.
I was not going to settle for the ati taking up 2 slots, creating noise with the fan and all the bad reviews.
I ended up getting it on eBay and after I put it into my system it has never let me down:
http://www.pixelgrinch.com/blog/archive/graphiccard_upgrade_for_my_macpro
You just have to watch it there are ebayers out there that try to sell you a 8800GT for Mac which is actually a 8800GT for PC with a flash upgrade. You get them cheap but they are not 100% compatible with the 8800GT for Mac. I personally didn't take the chance and waited for a true Mac 8800GT. It was my best decision in regards of my graphic card needs.
You can smack 2D stuff, 3D stuff, Games, anything at it and it performs like a champ.
It never froze up or caused any problems in 9 month and counting. It is performing exceptionally well operating two of the four monitors attached to my mac pro.
This card doesn't even have a fan thus creates no noise at all. Another plus is it takes up only ONE slot!!!

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I ordered the 8800GT kit for older Mac Pro's from Apple store, and it has been installed 1 week. Running updated 10.5.2, by the way. Everything seemed fine for the first few days. My normal mode of operating is to 'sleep' the MP when done, and wake it with a key hit. I'll go weeks at a time without powering off/on. Oh, replaced a perfectly good X1900.
What normally happens with the 8800GT upon waking is, the card fan runs full speed for 10 seconds or so, then down to 'idle' and everything is working as expected.
A few days ago, I hit a key to wake, the 8800 fan comes on full speed as always, only it stays on full, and there is no video - the monitor stays black in sleep mode. After many minutes, I finally held down the power button to turn off, and then turned back on. It seemed to boot and work properly again.
But now it is happening every other day upon waking, 8800 card fan stays on full, there is no video, and I have to do a power reset.
Anyone else had a problem like this? In the meantime, I've put the old X1900 back in and will sleep/wake all day today to make sure it is not some other hardware problem that has surfaced coincidentally. So, anyone else?
John F

here a general update to whom it may concern
my latest reply from a apple product specialist how was very good and helpful but only
give me this to my upgrade answer !
i want to upgrade my graphic card to 8800 and run tiger on my 1st gen macpro
here it goes:
"This article indicates what cards are supported in what machines: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305346
Your Mac Pro is the first generation, and did not have PCI-Express 2.0 slot like the current generation does have.
Unfortunately, we don't foresee the release of any drivers for the 10.4 OS on this machine.
In regards to the second issue, we also don't support two video cards in two slots, using a different one for eash OS, there is no supported way to do this."
"Unfortunately, the latest version of the Mac Pro will not run Tiger, as it was manufactured after the release of Leopard, therefore the drivers for the machines hardware will not be available on Tiger."
hope thats cleared some ones Q.
now my Q. IS the 1900xt better then the 7300xt and is the 8800 so much better then the 1900
with priority set to applications not gaming ?
thx
kindly
S.

Choppy video on 1st Gen MacPro w/Nvidia 8800GT card

I upgraded my card to the Nvidia 8800GT for 1st Gen MacPro (verified I do have a 1st Gen, but now without the Nvidia box I can't figure out how to verify I received the card I ordered...).
30-inch display will not play video at any resolution smoothly; and it doesn't matter what sort of video source (DVD, iTunes, flash...) or what software used to play video (QT Pro, DivX...). All software is up-to-date. Plenty of RAM, hard drive space, and a 15MBPS Internet connection. Using Intego NetBarrier and VirusBarrier, all current, and disabling them doesn't solve the video problem. Doesn't matter what other programs are running, the problem happens when it's the only thing on or if I've got several programs running on both the Mac and WinXP via VM Fusion.
I've also noticed Internet performance issues even when Speedtest.net shows a good connection. And more system crashes than normal. But I can't say whether the problems are related. The display is fine except for motion video playback.
I don't know where to start on diagnostics... Help please?

k, I zapped the PRAM, reset SMC and searched for more info about the "16x slot". Found this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2838?viewlocale=en_US
which explains what that's all about and how to use the Expansion Slot Utility. And, voila! I had taken the original 7300 out of slot 1 and put the new card in slot 2 for more room, but slot 1 is the only one able to fully support a 16x card. Now all is well:)
I see The Hatter amazingly often in support searches. Thanks muchly! You got a website for donations?

8800 GT crapped out, 1st-gen Mac Pro

When I tried to turn on Mac Pro today, the monitor didn't appear to be receiving any video, and the fan on my GPU was at full speed without stopping. The computer otherwise seemed to be working fine (startup sound played, could hear hard drives working). I ruled out the monitor as the issue, and upon replacing the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT with an old ATI X1900 XT I had lying around, the computer started working fine. The ATI was the original card that came with the Mac, which I replaced with the Nvidia about 3 years ago.
The problem now is that I need a replacement for the 8800GT. Unfortunately, I have a first-gen Mac Pro (2006) and my warranty ran out, so a free repair is not likely. I called the local Apple store, who forwarded me to Apple support, who told me that Apple doesn't have any 1st-gen Mac Pro compatible 8800s lying around. They suggested I check Newegg, but after some time trying to struggle through the site I don't believe they have any either.
So, I guess my question is, what now? My Mac functions fine with the X1900XT, but the reason the card was replaced was because it performed terribly, overheated often, and had artifact issues, so I'd rather not keep it.
This is my first experience trying to replace hardware out of warranty, and coming from PCs it's hard to imagine there are no replacements out there. Do I have to live with the ATI, or does anyone know if/where I can find a replacement 8800?
I have a MacPro1,1, dual Intel Xeon 2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, latest version of Mac OS X.

BTW, 9.5 Minutes in a 425F oven has about 50/50 odds of reviving your 8800GT. You need to remove fan first. There are multiple "how tos" on web. I have done this with MANY 8800GTs and can report odds really are about 50% that card can resume normal life.
Issue was early Lead Free solder.

Choosing a video card for 1st gen (1,1) mac pro

Hey all,
Buying a video card for my mac pro to upgrade from the stock 256mb nvidia, and have narrowed it to these three cards.
ATI X1900 XT
Nvidia 8800GT
ATI 4870
I know to make sure I buy the versions compatible with my generation mac pro etc, but they're all relatively close in price (within $100), so barring comparison in that area, which of these cards are the best? Or are they all pretty equal? I know very little about video cards.
Also, as an aside, does the ATI 4890HD work with 1st gen mac pros? I've seen ebay auctions claiming they do, but I know better than to take them at face value.

I wouldn't touch the X1900 overpriced and old.
The 8800GT is hard to find but can be on ebay even for 1st gen
ATI 4870 from Apple is safe bet.

Upgrading my 1st Gen Mac Pro

I have a Mac Pro 1.1, Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz with 11GB of RAM. Graphics card is ATY,RadeonX1900.
I mainly use it for video/photo work, FCP, After Effects, Photoshop. It's starting to run quite slow. In Final Cut Pro I have trouble playing anything back smoothly within the timeline. I am assuming this is because as video technology improves (HD, higher bit rates etc) by Mac Pro has not kept up.
What is the best way to upgrade my Mac Pro so that it runs more smoothly and does not cost as much as buying a new machine? Should I get the processor changed? Is that possible? If so, which one? Or would changing the graphics card do the job?
Any advice would be great.
Thanks.

Hi fferrari,
I find it sad that The hatter is right that so many view without any suggestions. I have a similar issue that I'm dealing with and my budget does not alow me to purchase a new MacPro. I'm also looking for a new graphics card to edit High Def video on my 1st Gen MacPro 2006. I tried the ATI 5770 but somehow forgot to notice that it requires Snow Leopard 10.6.x to work properly. I need something that works with Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard due to software issues and also with Windows XP SP2 via Bootcamp witch is on the Tiger HDD.
I'm so confused as to what to purchase since it's all so very technical for me but I may need to find an Nvidia 8800GT because I want two DVI port on the same card that would work on Tiger (10.4.x) and at least 512 MB on the card.
Anyway, good luck at making a decision at your end.
Rio

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Next, disconnected the ethernet cable. ATV1 froze and was restarted using the Menu + ( - ) combo on the remote. Re-ran diagnostics yeilds: Apple TV is working fine.
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"There was a problem connecting to the network. Check your settings and try again. (-4)"
No change on the wireless front :-( Bummer.
Looks like an ethernet connection is the only option left to continue using this Apple TV 1st Gen.
Thanks for your help. -- Paul

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Message was edited by: Cassidy Knight (still)

The current version of iTunes should be able to connect to even the 1st gen iPod. The one you have is 2nd gen, if it's the one with the four clicking buttons around the touch wheel. I have one of those, and although I use it as my little emergency/maintenance FireWire startup drive (because the screen failed on it), it is still recognized by iTunes on my Mac. Over FireWire, of course.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363
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Hello nveroff,
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1st gen 8800GT EOL

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